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(...) Yes, I believe they are. I haven't rechecked lately to see if anything has changed. If I get a chance in the next few days I will recheck it. (...) I understand and agree. I will cease making any comments on them. (...) really? ok. (...) Paul (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Looks good. (...) I have used the phrase "0 end of subpart", "0 end of file", etc in some of the parts I have made. Will these get rejected? I usually always try to keep them lowercase. (...) I'm not sure about this one. I feel that new parts (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) I assume that L3P reports the relevant lines, so it is trivial to remove one of the offending ones. (...) Right. Set a reasonably large threshold (0.1?) and reject based on it. Jacob (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) [snip areas of agreement] (...) Which is sloppy, but not a killer error. (...) I didn't list the non-coplanar message with the "reject" group is because the thresholds of coplanarity are variable, not fixed. So we need to agree on what level (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) [...] Seems okay. (...) [...] Seems okay. (...) I would say yes. The last two definitely should, since they indicate unneeded resource use. The first one should really be split in to two triangles, if it really is intended to be (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hey y'all- I'm just sort of starting to get to adding L3P-check'ing to the Parts Tracker submit function. I took a look at the documented messages, and tried to sort them out according to whether or not any particular error was cause to reject a (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) And I want to say "Thank You!" to Paul for doing this -- Lars Hassing has performed a similar service in the past, emailing the L3P messages to part authors. We[1] are in the process of incorporating L3P into the part submission function. I (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I've taken some time away from the process of posting the backlog of parts to the tracker. I will get back to finish the job, but other tasks have higher priorities. Basically, I needed to finish developing the Parts Tracker.[1] It didn't make (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:GLBGz8.12E@lugnet.com... (...) and (...) Are you still going through the parts that had already been submitted prior to the new parts tracker too? Just wondering as the only part I've (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: "All zeros" warning (Was: Parts Tracker Activity Page)
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(...) Ok, I'm the guilty party who posted such notes on the tracker. :) I still pass a part with these errors. Some of my earler parts have these too. L3P issues several "warnings" many are not required to correct to get passed. What I am watching (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmm. I interpret this like the lawyer's question, "Is that when you stopped beating your wife?" It's not really yes or no. The totally accurate answer is: there are no 2D objects in LDraw. The polygons we model are just the 2D surfaces of 3D (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw History - here's one for the old timers in the group....
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(...) I started working on it in June 96, at that time I had my own set of bricks all hardcoded into the program but a few months later (don't ask me when) I asked James if I could use his .DAT files in LeoCAD and converted them to my own format. (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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"Bram Lambrecht" <bram@cwru.edu> wrote in message news:MABBIBJJFOJIOHD...wru.edu... (...) Heheh... (...) Added that you intro'ed the tutorial in Sept 98 (and I will link to it). Snipped cool history tidbits on LDraw/LEdit. (...) It would be neat if (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | "All zeros" warning (Was: Parts Tracker Activity Page)
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WARNING "6260.dat" Line 7: Row 1 all zeros: & 1 16 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 4-4edge.dat Does this mean that we are forced to incorrectly turn 2D objects into quasi-3D to make them pass the tests? /Tore (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(XPOST lugnet.cad, FUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) One of the usability challenges I've been having with the new Parts Tracker is knowing what's been going on. There are about 360 active files now[1], and it's hard to see new files and reviews being (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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1589 not counting subparts and primitives. Leonardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> To: <lugnet.cad.dev@lugnet.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: Number of parts? (...) or (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Do we have an official tally of the number of official parts in the LCad library? I would include the multitude of official torsos and decorated elements, but I'm not as curious about the number of official primitives or subparts. Any info will help (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDGLite bug reports
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(...) Well, one could think of the orthographic projection as a perspective projection seen from an infinite distance through a telephoto lense (at least that's the way I think of it). I'm not sure that helps me come up with unified coordinate (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Don: (...) The tiling works fine, but it is extremely slow compared to rendering the whole image in one piece. (...) Those notes are quite easy to understand once you find them. ----- (...) Considering that we are considering parallel projections, (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Wow! Lots of bugs reports all at once. Where do I start? I don't know what's up with xvfb the aspect ratio problem. It seems odd since you can reshape an ldglite window and the aspect ratio is handled correctly. I guess I'll have to get xvfb (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw History - here's one for the old timers in the group....
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(...) [snip] (...) Yeah, I was in there - part 30055, Fence spindled 1 x 4 x 2 was my first. Followed by 2593, Wheel Hard-Plastic Medium (was that the first use of subpart files?). But I think Tore was the only author other than James to have a part (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I have played around with running LDGLite as a pure command line tool by redirecting its output to a virtual X server (Xvfb). This works fine once you figure out how to generate the appropriate orientation matrices to compensate for unusual aspect (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker: Alpha Version of Parts Release
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(...) Umm, I'd say yes. Especially in KEYWORDS entries. I can sort of imagine that we *might* need to put 'train car' in a part's title, but I can't think of a specific instance of that. Are you asking this because of something specific on the parts (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I managed to compile LDGLite for Linux/Alpha, but every time I run the program it aborts with a segmentation fault just after it has opened its drawing window. I suspect - as I have written elsewhere - that this is due to a mismatch in the size of C (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Dan: (...) LDGLite still seg-faults on Linux/Alpha. I have been playing with LDGLite and Xvfb on a Linux/IA32 system this weekend. I suppose that the source of the segmentation fault is a mismatch in the size of C integers and pointers on the Alpha (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) well, we could try it with VNC - if you got LDGlite to work now? :) Dan (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Making the screen even wider was not a practical solution. There is a screen width limit somewhere between 2048 and 4096 pixels. Now I simply made Xvfb work with a 2048 by 2048 pixel display: Xvfb :9 -screen 2048x2048x24 -ac This gives (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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I have experimented a bit with using Xvfb as X server for LDGLite. It seems to work, but there are some things to be aware of. I start Xvfb with the command: Xvfb :9 -screen 0 2048x1280x24 -ac "-ac" means that there is no access control. That's kind (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Hi, I'm trying to create a town like Datsville, except that it's expandable. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to implement skysphere layers like clouds, terrain importation and textures, and overlaying and expansion of roads to (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker: Alpha Version of Parts Release
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It seems the word Car is a little source of potential misunderstandings. To me, it has always been equal to automobiles like Ford and Opel and others on rubber wheels. Until LDraw. Now, when I see the word car, an alarm clock rings and I'm not sure (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw History - here's one for the old timers in the group....
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(...) A bounch of Makelist clones with various compability and functionalty... :o) /Tore (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) At first, James made his own standalone SL2LD converter based on the info I sent him on SimLego's binary .LEO file format. (The last original ldraw.exe package file still contains the conversion list). He had plans for an LD2SL converter too, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | RE: LDraw History - here's one for the old timers in the group....
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Wow this is long... (...) In late 1996 or early 1997, I asked James if he wanted to collaborate with me on a tutorial for a ThinkQuest entry. Turned out he was ineligible since he was 25 years old. He mentioned "Tim" as a possible partner, but I had (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Parts Tracker: Alpha Version of Parts Release
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Hey all! I'm working through the update-packager program, and I've got some initial results for you to check through. If a few people could take a look at this, especially the complete.zip and lcad0101.zip files, I'd appreciate it. Once we know (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | LDraw History - here's one for the old timers in the group....
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Hello - I'm working on one of the ideas I discussed with the Jessimans at Brickfest this year. While we were making up the powerpoint presentation for the talk at the event, we thought it would be nice to develop a complete history of the LDraw (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.people) !!
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| | Re: Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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(...) And here is the arm part (URL) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Update
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(...) I'm hesitant to make a forecast on when a release will be available. I've started on the program to create a release, but it's got over a dozen steps of varying complexity. I had thought I'd be able to knock this out over the weekend, but then (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi, I am really glad to see that we're making great strides forward with the parts tracker and the parts review process. Any chance of getting an approximate date for the next Official Parts Release? (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) And now there's even color flags (thanks, Dan!). :) Steve (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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(...) Here's the bucket (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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(...) Yes, its very surprising that these have not been modelled. The lift arm is part #3314, but none of my bucket parts have a moulded number. I'll see what I can do... Chris (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker News
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(...) Thanks! (...) Yah, a key is definitely in order. It's there now - see the bottom of the page. And see below. (...) A - Admin 'yes' Y - Non-admin 'yes' N - 'No' S - Uncertified subfile F - Fix to an existing file X - New part/subpart/etc. The (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sorry about that. I've posted a code legend on the page now (and added links to the certstatus page from the index and list pages). X - new part F - updated/fixed part Steve (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I would like a clarification between X and F. My part, Animal Bird with Parrot Pattern, is the only certified piece that is AYYX instead of AYYF. If something neeeds to be changed, let me know. Dennis Osborn (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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(...) I mean the small version of <part:828> and <part:3433>, listed as "Tractor Chassis Excavator Arm, Large" and "Tractor Chassis Excavator Bucket, Large". As for sets, there's <set:604> (from 1971), <set:614>, <set:642>, <set:6630>, <set: 1633>, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: What sets have the "witches cauldron" or "fabuland Pot"?
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GKtMJv.FwE@lugnet.com... (...) have (...) called: (...) You (...) it (...) I have no idea why they called that a cauldron. It looks more like a teapot (teakettle to some) and is most (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.db.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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| | Re: What sets have the "witches cauldron" or "fabuland Pot"?
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(...) yes, sets: 3641 Camper 1985 3646 Catherine Cat's Kitchen 1985 3672 Hotel-Restaurant 1982 3680 Camping Caravan 1988 3703 Peter Pig- Cook 1982 3784 Hugo Hog- Tinker 1982 3795 Kitchen 1985 (...) It is in the Brickbay Catalog only it is called (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.db.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker News
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(...) This is pretty spiffy. It may be helpful to give a key here as to what the letters mean. Y and N are clear enough but X and F (and A although I think it's a modifyer of Y to mean Admin voted Y) aren't Should only take a few lines and will (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | What sets have the "witches cauldron" or "fabuland Pot"?
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I am sort of groping for the correct name of this part. I think it is originally a Fabuland part. I KNOW 6097 has it in black. What else does? Part of my problem is that this isn't an official part in LDraw yet. I have an unofficial version someone (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.db.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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(...) The actual voting page files should now be named "model_form-<yyyy>-<mm>.shtml" and "scene_form-<yyyy>-<mm>.shtml" (although the visitors still should be directed to (URL) and (URL)). (...) Done. - And these pages are currently in use. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 6-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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Terry: (...) But only five days in February. (...) Yes. (...) Yes. (...) * Switch naming scheme for the voting pages, so the file names include year and month. * Create a "sorry, we're not ready for voting yet" page, which the server can put in (...) (23 years ago, 6-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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(...) Automate. Love that word. (...) Nano-second breathing space. (...) So that gives me a week to prepare pages for the next month. OK. (...) So the prepared pages are posted prior to the 1st, and the system switches them at the right time? (...) (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) There was a change to this report. There is a fourth requirement for certification, and it slipped my mind when I was developing the page. The additional requirement is that at least one of the 'yes' votes must be posted by an admin-user. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker News
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(...) Yes, the system allows you to certify your own parts. I figure that the group of reviewers is small enough, we know each other, and we can trust each other to review our own parts honestly. Steve (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, it is a static page, regenerated every 10 minutes. (...) Sorry, the list was not being rebuilt, due to a stupid programmer error. It's fixed now. Steve (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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(...) With all the various buckets and related accessories released by LEGO, I think this description is a bit vague. Which sets feature the parts you are looking for? (...) Irregularly shaped parts like excavator buckets are very difficult to model (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Part: Excavator arm / bucket (small)
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Does anyone have a DAT for the small digger/excavator arm and bucket? I'm surprised to find this old favourite missing when other 'upstarts' (e.g. Mindstorms) are all there! Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Tracker News
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(...) Great news Steve - thanks for all the work you've put into this. I plan to review the parts which I have IRL (and didn't author myself) this weekend. Or can I "certify" my own parts, also? Chris (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Way cool! Just one question, is this a static page updated periodically? Just wondering 'cos (not wanting to blow my own horn) my x121 Air Horn shows up with a Y on the standard list, but no Y votes on the certification status list. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:GKpB3L.Hus@lugnet.com... (...) for (...) list, (...) Comments (...) Nifty! (...) library (...) yet; (...) Coolness. Thanks a ton, Steve! Keep it up :-) -Tim LDraw.org (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Just a few quick items. Some good news, some not-as-good news. First, there's a new report-page, which shows the 'certification status' for each part. The parts that are ready for release are at the top of the list, the rest are below. And the most (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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Terry: (...) I can automate the hard parts. (...) What about letting the computer have the lack of breathing space? (...) I would rather choose: * Entry deadline on the 23rd of each month. * Voting commences on the 1st of each month (assuming that (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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(...) Thank you, Fredrik. (...) Hmm... My only problem is concerns about confusion (mine), and timeliness. Having voting going on back-to-back would require me to do a some juggling. And would require that pages get updated promptly at the turn of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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Fredrik: (...) Sound like a very sensible idea. (...) $ grep '^software' /etc/aliases software: tim $ Jacob (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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(...) It was certainly well deserved! BTW, I think that one week voting time is a bit limited. It's also a bit odd to go and look for contestants, and only find them one out of four weeks. How about a scheme were the models were up for voting for (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Future extension of dat files?
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(...) I get this: C:\>assoc .ldr .ldr=l3.dat C:\>assoc .dat .dat=L3.dat But I was mucking with assoc yesterday, so don't assume this is the normal result of the registry mucking I did before then. (...) Probably LDraw.Document would be good, having (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Winners of LDraw.org's October 2001 Model/Scene Of The Month
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Hi all, Sorry for being a day late, but I felt the need to have Jacob (the server admin for ldraw.org) verify the voting tallies. Not because it was close, but because I won. :-) (short pause here for a victory dance)... OK, <pant, pant) I'm back at (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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Steve: (...) That's also my intention with them. Similarly are the POV-Ray colour codes intended to be the closest match for rendering the colours and transparancies in POV-Ray. Play well, Jacob -- (URL) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Future extension of dat files?
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(...) I don't suppose you could humor me and type: assoc .ldr at a command prompt and tell me what you get. Since we seem to be standardizing on the .ldr extension and the application/x-ldraw, it might be nice to standardize the rest of the junk (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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(...) I always thought the RGBs in the FAQ were supposed to be approximations of the 'real colors'. LDraw's palette is a poor match for real LEGO, and I'd hate to be stuck with it's selections. Although there were some values that we didn't have any (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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(...) Yes, but there are some problems: 1. LDraw (and LEdit) can't be changed to render new colors. So if we arbitrarily select color codes in the 0 - 255 range, the old programs won't work. 2. LDraw renders colors 17-31 the same as colors 1-15 (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Future extension of dat files?
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(...) Yeah, like Tim said: the file format is staying the same. There are only two changes going on: 1. LDraw.org semi-officially endorses the .LDR extension as the standard for LDraw files. This stance doesn't have a *direct* effect on anything. 2. (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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(...) I forgot to reply to this part of your message! Steve Bliss said that the RGB values in his table were from Suzanne D. Rich's LEGO colour page. Hence, they are approximations to the real RGB values of the bricks, not the averaged RGB values. (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) But isn't that the whole point? If I use the dithered colour 383 in a model, L3P will interpret it as chrome and use a special colour and reflection model for it. Rendering the same model in LDraw, however, will reveal that it is only a (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [snip] (...) I was my impression that colors 256 to 511 are dithered combinations of colors 0 to 15, and that the RGB was the calculated average of the two dithered colors. The RGB of dithered colors is just mentioned in the FAQ as a (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ok, that means I will extend the internal color table to 512 entries, and allow the user to modify colors up to value 511. Just looked up the code and remembered the implementation: As current MLCad supports the following: 0-31 fixed (as in (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) This is true. When a new colour is released from LEGO, we normally aim to find a dithered colour which looks fairly much like the new colour. Then we define that particular dithered colour as the new one. That way, we can still use the old (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Maybe I didn't understand something right, but the LDraw FAQ in section 20 mentiones that colors from 256 to 511 are dithered and not solid! So how can we have colors there? Are we not supporting dithered colors anymore? Or what is the real (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GKJKwG.Awv@lugnet.com... (...) at (...) No, the actual text based file format will remain the same. -Tim (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Here's a potentially dumb question: will we be changing the file format at all during the switch from .dat to .ldr, or will it still be the same text-readable setup we all know and love? Dave! (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(Sorry, I hit "Post" too quickly just now) I was playing around with Regedit. I found the .dat key (under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT), and copied the settings from .dat to a new key, .ldr. I also changed the default file extension for application/x-ldraw to (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Heh, while searching for another tool I just discovered you can do this on the command line in 2000. Who would've guessed? Typing: ftype /? reveals the secret. To add .ldr on my system would require typing: assoc .ldr=ldlite.document The only (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Look here (Warning, MS changes this with every release so it may not work!) (URL) worked for me on 2000 (sorta borrowed from the ldglite readme) 1) Open an Explorer window (or any folder window). 2) Select the "View->Folder Options" menu (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is there any MIME-head out there who knows if multiple file extensions can be directed at the same MIME-type? I'd like to keep both DAT and LDR registered/linked to application/x-ldraw on my system. Steve (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, no. That's not what the 'private mailing list' is for at all. I'm sorry you've gotten that impression. :( Earlier this year, a private mailing list was set up, for one express purpose: to put together a proposed organization & charter for (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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(...) putting in ldliterc.dat (see recent LDLite documentation about that), or for use in any DAT being processed by a program that recognize's the 0 COLOUR statement. Steve 0 Extended colour definitions for ldliterc.dat 0 COLOUR 503 LT_GRAY 8 230 (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.ideas)
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(...) I know, I'm not Steve, but I think leaving library extensions as they are shouldn't be a problem since you do not regulary open library files, but models. As long as the editors and viewers accept both extensions it should be fine. Just we (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No problem. (...) Sounds good! Thanks, Michael. (...) Yeah, .dat from the get-go was too ambiguous, and there's been a need for LDraw files to have their own unique extension for quite some time. The other issue is what to do with parts - from (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks, that was it, what I wanted to know. For the next version I'm planning to register this extension instead of .dat. Although I'll still support dat MLCad will write .ldr by default - still allowing the user to specify something else. I (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Michael - The new extension should be .ldr. I'd recommend saving files at .ldr as default, but leave the option to save as .dat. Also, when opening a file, look for both .dat and .ldr as a default. BTW (for everyone, since this is on a public (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I thought *.MIK or *.MKE would be okay. What do you think? Heh. -Mike (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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Steve: [ list of colours with LDraw, LDLite and RGB values ] I have added them to the LDraw FAQ: (URL) well, Jacob -- "The universe isn't for the likes of me to understand. I only work here." (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I know of one list we're both on, are there other ones that are "disclosed"? If so can you disclose them? I would want to listen in. Or did you mean undisclosed... (...) DAT is commonly used by many other things as well. But we can never find (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It is my experience that "development" type discussions are no longer run on LUGNET, rather they have been taken to some disclosed private mailing lists. Personally, I don't see any benefits from changing the extensions. We already have .LDR (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hy, some time ago I've been told by somebody that extensions of dat files should be changed to something else. Can somebody remember what it was - and whats the actual status - I didn't hear about it since then... Michael (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
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[In a brilliant blaze of thread micro-management, I've XPOSTed and FUTed lugnet.cad.dev] (...) I can't say anything's decided(1), but I went over the new colors and the color chart, and I've listed some suggestions below. Let me know what you think. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Winners for September 2001
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If anyone is having difficulty getting the .dat files for the Liquid Cathedral working, then contact me. There is apparently some confusion over the fiendishly difficult installation of files necessary for part 6002 (which is the Paradisa 1/4 dome). (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org MOTM & SOTM Voting for October 2001
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Hi all, Voting is up and running at: (URL) Terry K -- (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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