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As some of you have already noticed, we recently launched a new section of LEGO.com: (URL) the Build section has some content that might be of interest to Lugnetters and AFOLs in general -- and will hopefully have more in the future -- I thought I'd (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.lego.announce) !!
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"Tomas Clark" <tomas.clark@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:GCvDvB.3Do@lugnet.com... (...) is (...) I thought this section was very well done. More the same please. regards lawrence (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Looked like it would be quite interesting. So, I enabled cookies and went for a look. I gave up after 30 seconds, however - tiny black letters on a fairly dark background made it extremely difficult to read. Perhaps your page designers haven't (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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That's actually a stylesheet problem, not a javascript one. It looks like you're using some version of Netsacape 4 for X. Which I happen to be using at the moment too, so I can tell you exactly what to do: select Preferences under the Edit menu, go (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I liked what happens to Redini when you click on him, its like a Lego punching bag that you can use while you are trying to figure out what the 84(!) different colors are for Lego, and how to get your hands on all 84(!), hehehe. So Tomas, what are (...) (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hmm. I've always had Stylesheets turned on, since, as far as I know, they are not a security problem. I tried visiting the same page with them turned off and it is indeed different. The main problem that I see is the darkness of the background (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Your snapshot (...) don't see anything like your snapshot. I only see the blue background once on the title bar. The rest of the page has a white background. In your snapshot you can even see where the image ends and a repeat of it starts... I (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Wow i didn't see that! i was thinking about the 18 trans. colors, i have close to 18 colors. Josh (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Could be - I know enough about HTML to do simple stuff, but I've never gone beyond that. I wonder if the "background-repeat" setting is a new extension, and perhaps even an IE-specific one? Some old "intro-to-HTML" stuff I've got lists many (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) AFAIK, background-repeat is part of the W3C CSS1 specifications, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it seems to work in NS4.7[1] as long as stylesheets are turned on. The problem lies in the BODY tag. If CSS is turned off, the browser reads: <body (...) (23 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I don't have any problems running netscape on the site, everything seemed to come up fine for me. Slower than molasses in sub-zero winter... though it looked ok.. Tamy (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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WOW! This is Fantastic! It's exactly what I've wished the lego.com site would be! Excellent work! I love the interview with part designer; please continue this series, and try to go into more detail on why parts fit together in different ways and (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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....Beautiful! Nice looking site. Cant wait to dive in deeper :-) (...) --- wubwub wubwub@wildlink.com www.sitcatsit.com <-- a guy and his cat www.wildlink.com <-- the wildlinks < INSERT HUMOROUS TAGLINE HERE > (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Nice job! I especially like the Auto Chassis history. That is my favorite progression because each model is an improvement from the previous (and the original was a masterpiece in it's time). I bet we won't be seeing a police station evolution (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I thought there were more like 120 colors. Maybe it's 84 currently used. Obviously most of them are for the model shop. Just as well. I don't think my sorting system could handle 84 colors. KL (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Does the "Cool Kids" section profile only the amazing kids or does it also profile the average or below-average kid? What makes one kid more amazing or cool than another? I thought LEGO was about using your imagination and creativity and not (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Cool, can't wait for more! (...) Excellent! Are you taking requests for other old sets? I would like to see the old Moon Landing set from the mid-70's! (...) A floating minifig head -- LOL -- awesome! (...) Does this mean that LEGO now (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Tomas, Where did you get the time capsule model photos? Are they old stock or new photos taken for the web site. Any interactive picture would really add a lot. Rose "Tomas Clark" <tomas.clark@america.lego.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Lots of fascinating info just in the first "issue." Perhaps the most interesting to me, possibly because I was obsessed for so long with finding this set, was this bit about the 396 Thatcher Perkins set from 1976: "The American market was (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The Cool Kids area profiles kids who reflect the LEGO values: creativity, inspiration and construction. It is meant as a departure point for our audience - a place where they will come and be inspired to be active and interested in a wide area (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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hanks to everyone for the positive comments! Here are some answers to various people's questions: (...) Yes, I hope we'll eventually get to what exactly the colors are... I think the 84 was colors currently in production -- it might be colors that (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Tomas Clark" <tomas.clark@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:GD13HB.1pw@lugnet.com... (...) What about doing Karsten Kristensen for the careers section? I remember reading about him in Brick Kicks as a kid, and also had the pleasure of meeting (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Were other, less psychologically loaded alternatives like "Cool Stuff" or "Cool Clicks" or "Cool Tips" ever considered? Labeling someone a "Cool Kid" (which you do several times on your pages) is something you (collective you -- The LEGO (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) (Smile) OK, when you post using an @lego.com email address and with your official LEGO title (e.g., Producer, LEGO Direct) in your sig, you are actually speaking for LEGO; anything you say without a personal disclaimer is understood to be The (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I can see a problem with the specific word "cool" (if it means the same thing today that it did 20 years ago). I certainly was not "cool" when I was 8, but that meaning does not fit the context of the LEGO page. The page doesn't give any (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) It is refreshing to read candid (i.e. not press release) posts from LEGO employees. Try not to make it so painful for them. Who cares if juniorizaion is an "official" issue? Everyone, including LEGO knows what it is, why they did it, who told (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Kevin Loch wrote in message ... (...) same (...) when (...) I suspect (though I don't know*) that giving an alternative interpretation to "cool" was part of the intent. (Actually kids around here don't say "cool" now: they say "Sweeet!" instead). (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) <snip> (...) Did anyone notice the modeling clay holding up the tailwing of the Spirit of St. Louis? I guess that gave the photographer a better picture-taking angle. I've heard rumors that LEGO has a historical museum of every set ever (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'd like to make a comment about the Build.com section which is a little bit off-topic, but which is, I feel, nonetheless germaine. Part of me has a problem with the section where people can vote for their favorite fan MOC; I just don't think (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Agreed. FUT admin.nntp (...) Again, agreed. Well said, Kevin. (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.nntp)
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James Simpson wrote in message ... (...) competition (...) that what (...) the Lego (...) rather than (...) is (...) actions. I totally agree. I put on a couple of "Lego shows" at my daughter's school - kids brought their own creations in and we put (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, James Simpson writes: ... (...) At first, my own reaction to your comment was "Well, then, maybe they could split it into adults, teenagers and children, or beginner and expert categories". Until I read the rest of what you (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Kevin Loch writes: <SNIP> (...) I think this is what needs to be done, us adults can say what we think all we want, and be 100% wrong. I would be interested as to the feedback outside of Lugnet to this "cool kids" section. I (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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No offense but, for cripes sake man... In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes: [...] (...) [...] (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Sorry, but I actually couldn't be more serious by those questions. I think TLC is making a huge blunder on the name of that. Unless, of course, if it's marketing driven and they're aware of it, in which case maybe it's good for their bottom (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I share your viewpoint, to a large extent. Question: Are you suggesting that it is wrong to post a follow-up asking whether a particular portion of a post was an official statement or a personal statement?? I would love to see TLC officially (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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Ah well, as long as this debate is...er... good for the community ;) -- Erin (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it's the special-kid/not-special-kid aspect that rubs me the wrong way rather than the precise meaning of the word "cool." (...) When LEGO Direct announced the area[1], it was described as being "profiles of amazing kids." Now, I don't (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) <snip> Yes, that's a very germane comment, and not really off-topic at all! You'll be glad to know that we consider the current Builders Gallery contest to be just a modest start, much like the rest of the Build section. We have plans and (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) [...] (...) (URL) here: (URL) being the producer for Cool Kids, probably did a much better job of succinctly describing her project than I did in my four-word blurb, quoted above. I mentioned it as another example of a "cross-product-line" (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I think you gave pretty good reasons. Probably would have been better to call it something like "kids doing cool things" or something like that, to avoid the implication that some kids are cool and some aren't. And if the model selection is (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I do think some underdog voting would be lost by keeping the percentages under wraps I think it on balance would be beneficial to do that. As I said in an off-topic.debate post in response to one of Todd's, I think the model of how Todd (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I jumped on you for insulting Suzanne (it wasn't the first time, and you know darn well what I'm talking about), for insulting our intelligence, for questioning our integrity, for acting with an egregiously pompous attitude (once again), and I (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3af8669a.240866...net.com... (...) Someone else brought this up before (I forget who), but I don't think the site is saying 'these are the only cool kids,' or 'if you're not up here, you're (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) But ther *are* special kids! My parents told me I was special when I was a kid. Of course every parent should do that from time to time because all kids are special and amazing in their own way. Wether it's a parent, LEGO or their friends, (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> Nicely proving my point, thanks... What I viewed as helpful questions and a desire for clarification you viewed as meddling. Right now, probably, someone inside TLC is no doubt saying to him or (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your motive, as always, is to prove to yourself that you are smarter than everyone around you. (...) The difference being: I haven't been asked to knock it off. And if I am asked to knock it off because I'm upsetting or insulting them (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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There's a known bug, at least in the Mac version of Netscape 4.x where turning off Javascript also turns off stylesheets. You must browse a lot of shady sites if you're that concerned about JavaScript security breeches ;-) (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jacob Arnold wrote in message ... (...) LOL! Sounds like a kind of chastity belt... Kevin (FUT ot-fun) ---...--- - Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Lego auctions: (URL) Guild of Bricksmiths: (URL) Lego Web page: (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Good post Tim, IMHO there is nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition, in fact I think it is essential in many ways otherwise kids are going to be in for a big shock when they leave the nest and enter the real world. Ok, so it's only (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Moreover seeing Jennifer doing better than you can be very motivating. Right I'm off to order a video encoder card, I put the side skirts on my tank last night and it's looking brilliant and need it's own web site. I'm sure it'll at least put (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> (...) Good post, good point, good debate fodder, Tim. I'm ambivalent, I do think that maybe "cool kids" may be a bit TOO judgemental... but dodgeball (I was always picked last and usually out first (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol, was it me? ( (URL) ). My post there says what I would have posted here. (...) Good point! Basically, the core of it is the same thing? Even has the 'cool' part. I can not recall many (note: I said recall, not saying there has not been) (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it must happen some, yes, and that's a probably a downside. CLSotW isn't specifically marketed at masses of kids, though, so I'm not too worried. (...) The competitive nature of the area is there regardless of the name. I don't have (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Protective undergarments notwithstanding, I have just checked on Netscape 4.75 for Linux (pretty darn close to what Chris was using), and the same bug is present. If you turn off Javascript you also turn off stylesheets, even if it looks like (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3afb4206.117264...net.com... (...) Ok, I think I get it now. I don't have as big of a problem with the name as you do, but I see your point. -Tim (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd vote for a no-javascript fix. Until Lego's website is viewable without it, you're alienating people who don't have Javascript due to platform or security issues. Whatever happened to plain old regular HTML, anyway? Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) It's dead. Web sites that just use plain HTML without JS or animations or other glitz are just not "cool" enough. I agree with you, don't get me wrong. But the reality is that the vast majority of Web users these days are using M$ Internet (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I believe this problem exists for Netscape 4.x on all platforms. Netscape 4.x does a horrible job with CSS positioning anyway, so I don't know if it's a big loss. --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu (URL) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Does anyone have any reliable stats on how many people are left out (as a percentage) due to platform issues, due to using obsolete browsers (perhaps for perfectly legitimate reasons) and due to running with restrictions turned on? Where I am (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Well, www.lego.com has been "too cool" for me since virtually day one anyway, so if its webdesigners can't figure out these issues, it'd be no big loss if I can never access content on it. LUGNET is *much* more friendly (and more human IMO) (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) There are a couple good sources of stats like this. Statmarket.com used to be one of them, but now you have to pay to get access to their stats. After they changed to pay-only, a couple handy pages like these popped up: (URL) links to lots of (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The only conclusion I've been able to reach is that AFOLs probably aren't part of the target market at www.lego.com. AFOLs are useful for spreading contagious enthusiasm and giving feedback on the website, but we really don't need to be wowed (...) (23 years ago, 12-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Oh? And who recovers from bad feelings faster, adults or children? If you think adults, you need to rethink it. The older a person gets, the easier it seems to be to retain and intensify bad (or good, luckily) emotions. i.e., Lugnet can (...) (23 years ago, 12-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Much better! Now I'll have to spend a while exploring... :-) Thanks Tomas! (23 years ago, 12-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'm intrigued by that. Where did you read that? (...) If it was called "Cool AFOLs" then I would agree with you. --Todd (23 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read? Were you never a kid? Have you never watched kids? In the vast majority of cases, young children will change from crying like the world is coming to an end to laughing in seconds. Adults? Hardly. Do you have to READ something somewhere (...) (23 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I meant where did you read it as in what brought you to that conclusion? I'm intrigued by your viewpoint because in my experience with people it isn't the case. I've met my share of embittered adults, but I've always assumed they started down (...) (23 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do agree with you that the label is potentially damaging. But then, a lot of things are potentially damaging. This one may be small beer, compared to some other stuff. I imagine there are some (in the viewing audience, at TLC, etc...) that (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not at all. You're the one that is setting the standard here (for TLG, while ignoring it yourself). Personally, I think you take this WAY too seriously. Kids shouldn't be coddled so much. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A bit of history here might help... "Cool LEGO Site of the Week" was named that back in 1996 when there were tons and tons of "Cool Abcdefg (type) of the Wxyz (timeframe)" sites popping up all over the Web. I think the first site was "Cool (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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