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Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:26:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Culberson writes:
> > Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Culberson writes:
> > >
> > > > What I am trying to say is that those who claim that the Creationist
> > > > theory is impossible based on current scientific evidence are wrong.
> > >
> > > If this is all you want, no problem. I concede that the creationist beliefs
> > > (as they relate to macroevolution) are not impossible. They are highly
> > > unlikely, unverifiable, and unsupported by the available observations, but I
> > > concede that it is possible that a malicious god could have set things up
> > > (faked the data) to make macroevolution seem likely while actually having
> > > done things completely differently.
> >
> > And I have repeatedly asked you to provide an example showing their
> > unlikeliness and telling me at least one or two available observations
> > that don't support it. (Notice that I left out "Unverifiable" since the
> > claims of Evolution are also unverifiable)
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> Carbon dating.
> Speed of light. (More specifically, observed doppler shift as pertains to
> stars (and other astronomical bodies), indicating direction, speed of travel
> & distance.)
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> Two well established scientific processes, both of which indicate that
> periods of time have passed in excess of the theorized age of the universe
> according to Creationist theory.
Easily explained away. All that is required is a god that wants to rig the
game...
The stars were created in 4006 BC with the appropriate compositions and
velocities and things were set up so that light of the appropriate frequency
was already enroute.
The carbon found in strata was created with different proportions than the
carbon found in the atmosphere, so that when you use the carbon dating
method you get the results that indicate that stuff is older.
And the chinese lineage records were made up by somebody somewhere, or planted.
but if this god is playing straight, these are not so easily refutable...
++Lar
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