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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jennifer Clark writes:
> Jon Kozan wrote:
>
> > Are the facts and conclusions credible?
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> The only thing that is credible, other than perhaps my conclusion that you
> have
> got to be winding me up about all this, is that "Dr Dino" has been kissing the
> blarney stone in a big way. For example, on the "win a great deal of cash"
> section, he says:
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> "Evolution is presented in our public school textbooks as a process that:
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> "3. Created the life that exists on at least one of those planets from
> nonliving matter (chemical evolution). "
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> Wrong. No-one claims evolution is responsible for creating life from non-life.
> Evolution is cited as the process that happens once life is established.
> Interestingly enough, it is precisely this point that one has to prove correct
> to win the cash prize - in other words, he is "disproving" evolution by
> offering
> an incentive to prove that something entirely different from evolution exists.
> Pure sophistry.
Gee I can say wrong too! :-)
"Abiogenesis" is not taught in schools as "abiogenesis" - it's called
'evolution' too. And my other comment still applies - they're all intertwined
- one cannot exist without the other. If one claims that simple life forms
evolved into higher orders (macro-evolution) on our planet - the traditional
explanation includes abiogenesis as well as cosmological origins.
The basic world-view tension fundamentally exists here: You either start from
a godless perspective or from a God-perspective. (Not to deny the
'why-not-both' folks)
But that has consequences all over your perspective on the world and our place
in it. Pick any science or field of study, and that fundamental worldview
influences it.
-Jon
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