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Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
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Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:56:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Culberson writes:

Now, on to your request Dave:

You state that you wish for citations within the "legitimate scientific
community" - I'm fairly sure before proceding any further that you will
debate the following sources to at least some degree based on that
premise - but IMO, the following sources/people DO in fact fit this
criteria (sorry if one of these is the same as Jon mentioned):

(1) http://www.drdino.com
I have personally attended a 2-3 hour presentation by Dr. Kent Hovind as
well as viewed several of his seminar videos.  Before questioning his
credability I urge you to see
http://www.drdino.com/Ministry/DrHovind.jsp

  What I see is that he "completed 60 credit hours toward a major in math
and science", which means that he didn't get a degree.  "He then transferred
to Midwestern Baptist College to double major in Bible and education."
Therefore he abandoned, for whatever reason, his pursuit of a science or
math degree in favor of Bible and education.  I don't criticize his choice,
since it was indeed his choice to make, but to claim some expertise in
"science" (by the way; what kind of science did he study? There's no mention
of specifics) without clarifying his exact field of study is culpably
misleading.  In addition, while his lack of a degree does not itself
preclude some knowledge of science (though he obviously has some
misconceptions), his misleading offering of credentials--plus his
fire-and-brimstone style of brow-beating and insulting those who do not
share his views--makes him seem like a typical pulpit propaganda preacher.
  From my perusal of his website, he doesn't really qualify as part of the
"legitimate scientific community."


   Dave!



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  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) Far more important than your perception of his credentials is his facts. Are they correct? Get past the rhetoric and personal attack - his methods are probably as distatesful as others on the other side - but that's not the point. Are the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) HOLD ON! Did you stop reading there or did you just deliberately skip the following sentence so as to be misleading: "While he taught math and science at Christian high schools for the next fifteen years, he earned his Masters (1988) and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
I'm stepping out onto shaky ground here as I have to admit that I've only been sparatically(sp?) following the whole "Christianity/Darwin.../Religion" debate except I have been reading the "Macro Evolution" thread thoroughly- but I will now step in (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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