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  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Shameless diversion aside, I agree. Let's get back to biblical principles. How many wives and concubines did Soloman have again? Allister (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Metru Nui Goes Political
 
Lego has put up a teaser about the Vahki enforcement squads in Mertu Nui. Substitute "Department of Homeland Security" for "Vahki" and "Constitution" for "law" and you have an all too topical bit of agitprop. "Matoran are disappearing." Indeed. (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) The proof will be in the pudding. If the Lefties try and challenge (URL) the DOMA> under the 14th Amendment, then their agenda will be clear, and only a new amendment to the Constitution will protect States' rights for self-determination. The (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Surely by now you've heard the theory that if you lean too far to the left or right you end up falling to the other side, haven't you? (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I thought the issue was that they were unlikely to vote for Buchanan. (...) The issue was that the Democrats were only bringing known pro-Dem areas into question in the first place. Voting errors occur all the time, and Gore's campaign wasn't (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Some of my friends introduced me to a family that they met after moving to NYC, where the mother is Canadian, the father is from New Zealand, and the kids were both born in the US, thus affording both kids triple-citizenship...until they turn (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Color trends in industry
 
(...) Sorry, the above should have read "I honestley hate the new color scheme for castle"... I'm still undecided about the color changes... I need to get enough of the new colors & build a few things with both colors to see if (a) I like it or not; (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Color trends in industry
 
(...) Color is big business, so it's no real suprise. And color plays a important part in the appeal of a product. I've had friends go through art school and within the first two years, you take several color theory classes; to the point where (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Color trends in industry
 
(...) I'm thinking it's (URL) not> since I knew someone (friend of a friend) who did exactly this. Either that or I'm pretty gullible. Or both. (...) You seriously think that this sort of discussion doesn't happen? Planned Obsolescence has been (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Color trends in industry
 
(...) Let me get this straight - a bunch of people pay money to join an organization that tells me what colors I want? Huh?? This is either the most brilliant science ever, or it's a bunch of hooey. I'm thinking it's (URL) hooey!> This kind of stuff (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Well, I suppose that it is the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Not-Rights? ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(URL) Good sense has prevailed, for now.> What intrigues me is that the rush to amend the Constitution in order to restrict freedom is expressly contrary to the supposed philosophy of true Conservatives, yet so-called Conservatives worked the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Yes we are dammit!! Agree with me or I'll hit you over the head with this spoon! Dave K -I say to all you villians--KNOCK OFF ALL THAT EVIL!!!!! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Whoops! Indeed my Freudian slip is showing. Oh, to be Jung again. (...) As to the first, I agree. As to the second, I disagree (but with reservations). As to the third, he was oath-sworn to fulfill the office of President, so in fighting (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Yes we are! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Um, we're going to have to CHARGE you for those Kumbaya lessons, you realise. (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Who cares? What does agriculture have to do with government? (other than that one is a fertilizer consumer and the other a fertilizer producer) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Some have tried to refute him, yes. Was that a Freudian slip? (...) I am not so keen on his suspension of Habeas Corpus or imposition of Income Tax, or on not supporting the right of peaceful secession but at least you can't successfully (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) K, so Dave K's Prez.. SecState would be... I'd say Larry (or John, I'm still debating that) SecDef would be Bruce (cause I like his style about dealing with foreign peeps) Who else... Who knows anything about agriculture? Dave K (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I should have done my research: A Republican of some refute has already (URL) weighed in> on this issue, and I'm happy to accept his opinion, even if his notion of Republican values is wildly out of touch with that of today's administration. (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Don't go to any trouble--I didn't mean to give you an assignment. Honestly, I should just suggest to my friend that she check it out herself. After all, it's her dilemma. Thanks all the same. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I'm not willing to do the research, though I'll shoot off an email to my friend, to support my understanding, but as I understand it, the official stance is something like "Well, if you're a citizen of that other nation, you must not be a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) No we're not! Chris (getting things back to debate :-) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Yowza! Is that correct? I know someone who has dual US and Irish citizenship, and she'd be surprised to learn this tidbit. Not that I'm refuting it; I just never heard it before. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) To be fair to Gore, though, the contested counties were the ones that showed the irregularities, such as questionable "felon" rosters, questionable butterfly ballots, questionable voting machines, and generally questionable tactics of denying (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship. It's a bit of a scam because they do sort of look the other way, but it is possible for the US to retroactively negate your citizenship if they find that you have also claimed Canadian (or any) (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I think I say this once every few years, but it's worth repeating every so often--when it comes right down to it, no matter what gets said here in a rant or a tiff or a tirade, people here (in o.t-d, and also elsewhere on LUGNET) are great! (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) No, but then, the elections are rigged against minor parties anyway, so really, what does it matter what we think? What matters is what the media and the major parties think, right? If you're going to bet on a rigged race, it helps to know who (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) He is??? ;-) Hmmm, is "TV watcher" considered a qualification for the presidency by Libertarians? I see that employment isn't;-) (...) You know, that's not as easy as it sounds these days. I don't watch much TV, but when I am at a friend's (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I disagree. David K is eminently qualified to be Prez, after all, he's a faithful West Wing watcher. That right there makes him more qualified than our current incumbent (who I suspect may not be able to turn televisions on without (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Have you forgotten what it was like down there;-) (...) Yes, but in your case, we'd make an exception;-D JOHN (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Your explanation of hot air movement and how it affects weather and climate matches my memory of the facts a lot better than the previous hot air explanation did. Thanks for posting that! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Clearly it was for the...um... . . . Maybe we blackmailed them? ;P (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) That's a good question. The closest precedent I could think of is that if you weren't a natural born citizen, you could still be eligible by being a citizen of the US before the constitution was adopted, but I remember reading that that was (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Stepping off my 'trash Dubya' soap box... K, Canada is assimilated by the US-- Can I run for Prez? Is being 'born in the US' retroactive for Canadians if Canada becomes 51-64 states? Dave K (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Last I remember of Halley, Hadley and Coriolis that's not how it works, but it's been quite some time since I last looked at that kind of thing. The basic physics as I remember the model is that the heated air around the equator rises (the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Holy Cow! I'm in New Jersey...when did we get sold to Canada? And why would they want us? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) I must admit I have never checked, so I can't even say "last I checked", but since Long Jumpers don't slaver at setting world records on a west facing runway let me be the first official doubter. Going east helps getting into orbit since that (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) That'd never happen. Conservative corporate interests wouldn't want to see it happen because it'd mean that all of those companies that have moved production plants down there would have to start paying US minimum wage (or worse, Union wage), (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Lincoln was in a very different situation than what we have now. There was a war being waged on US soil, but there probably wasn't much concern about terrorist attacks specifically aimed at disrupting the elections. The people being (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Evidentally not, since passengers on the ill-fated 9/11 flights were telling friends/family that the pilots had to lock their fellow-terrorists out of the cockpit to prevent them from retaking control of the planes to save their lives. You've (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Canada is going to have to take a number. I'd rather have (the rest of) Mexico first:-) JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) Irish you hadn't setter straight; for puns, I grousely outnumber you Dave! JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Of course not. We'd annex you while noone was looking. And noone would pay any attention to your protests because everyone in the US is already too busy complaining about their own problems to pay attention to anyone else's complaints, and (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I am with Lincoln on this matter (from the article): == Abraham Lincoln was urged by some aides to suspend the election of 1864 - during the US Civil War - but despite the expectation that he would lose, he refused. "The election is a (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
(...) (Enters the public toilet) Within Australia: All mainland states & territories, lived in Tasmania, NSW and Victoria Countries: USA, Canada, Indonesia, Italy, Austria, Czech Republic, UK (England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland) USA: California, (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I object to that on the grounds that while Bush was understandably interested in keeping the vote in his favor, Gore only presented an alternative that was decidedly biased in his favor (selectively recounting only known pro-Dem counties in a (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) And I liked the quote from Ciro Rodriguez: "If they do this, boy, my God, they're extremely desperate". I'm wondering if strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing it up, or flying a plane into a building only requires you to be a little bit (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) Two straight weeks in salt-water? That can't be good for your skin... ;P (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) You have to know that if the US is embroiled in a bloody civil war, Canada will not be unaffected. Chris (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) I think this is an example of what people all over the net are reacting to: (URL) particularly like the phrase "secure the election" in a quote from Homeland Security. Chris (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) As if this isn't a set-up... Some 'leaked' info about 'maybe postphoning' the election in the event of some sort of threat/attack. So soften up the ground before Nov., then "Oh, we raised the threat to red, we have to postphone the election." (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Well, when I first mentioned the hypothetical, it was *my* hypothetical, and now that the powers-that-be are addressing it, I'm becoming more concerned. My reasons for this are several: 1. Special elections tend to favor the Right wing, due to (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Uh, Dave, you're appear to be talking to yourself and you're making even less sense than usual. (Just kidding. Please don't hit me.) Unless I missed the major event, or the election was already cancelled, (there's nothing about it in the news (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) Yeah, I thought about that after I'd posted: "In order...of course it's in order, everything's in *some* order." It is chronological order of visitation. I was sort of an army brat. Dad was drafted during Vietnam and went to Germany and got (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Well, Dave, I don't think it's all that hypothetical anymore. What is particularly interesting to me is the fact that plans are being discussed for postponement, but they're allegedly only a "worst case scenario." I guess we'll see... Dave! (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:I0rxHu.uF0@lugnet.com... (...) had to (...) in (...) driving (...) My first hole is #4... I'm not well travelled in Texas (have been to Dallas and Fort Worth though, Dallas (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) I could hold up the Canadian stereotype, eh and say the centre of the universe is Toronto... Faulty history/geography recollection--Newfoundland came into Canada in '49 (or was it '52, should really refresh my memory on that one) When I was a (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) I have no idea offhand and didn't look it up in advance. Perhaps someone else does know and feels strongly enough about it that they want to share. But being American, it's apparently expected that I not know... just trying to hold up the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) I think that Labrador is in charge of Retrieval. Dave! (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
Yes it is. There! ;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) You got me curious now: isn't Labrador a part of Newfoundland nowadays? Administratively speaking, that is. ;-) Pedro (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck (was Re: Geography
 
(...) What's the order there? Chronological by earliest first visited, to most recently first visited? If so, were you an Army brat or expat's kid? For me, the chronological order starts with the US since I was born here... (US '59, Canada '59 (I (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
Nations (in order, to the best of my ability): West Germany, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, England, Denmark, Austria, United States, Mexico, Canada, Jamaica I have driven, as an adult, on my own, and (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) lol Well, Pedro, it was a little before your time (circa 1967:-) I was about 6 at the time and I'm sure I had my LEGO in the back seat of the rental car to keep me quiet and occupied;-) I was close in 1984 when I spent part of my honeymoon in (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
(...) What I've never done, however, is go below the equator. Sounds scary down there! But at some time I would like to see in person water circle the drain in the opposite direction;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Does this apply to driving, as well? If so, I may have found a new excuse for being late to work. But a more serious question: How big a factor *is* planetary rotation vis a vis commercial jet travel? I would have thought that, because flights (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) When??? (refers to edited highlight) We ought to have given you a LUG reception, had we known in advance you were coming! :-) Great list. Mine is about the same size, but probably less extensive within the countries themselves: Portugal, (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
(...) Oo! Oo! Finally a piddling contest I can do reasonably well in! Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany (both sides before the wall came down), Ireland, Malaysia, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Switzerland, Thailand, United Arab (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Not particularly on topic for .debate but what the heck( was Re: Geography
 
(...) Not bad. You have me beat for foreign countries, that's for sure. Countries: US, Canada, Mexico, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Italy, Australia, Japan States of the US: All but HI, ME, MT, AR, NM, ND (unless you (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Basic physics says that if you spin the world in one direction, the air will (generally) spin in the other direction (counter-rotation, equal/opposite reaction and such), which should carry you even faster into the rotation and fight you even (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Downright provincial:-) Moi: Canada, Mexico, Spain, Portugal, France, (West) Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Greece, Israel, Egypt, Jordan; most of those countries on multiple occasions, and 34 states. JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) See, there's one of the things I'm wondering about. Do Europeans and such have an easier time of placing their home town on a world map or globe where everything is color-blocked by nations? I grew up seeing a US map that was color-blocked by (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) I try to avoid doing that as much as possible. I may live in Michigan, but we've got sand dunes nearby, rolling hills, and lots of faux-elevation (i.e. trees in great abundance). (...) I was thinking specifically of the scene in TFotR, where (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Yeah, the one that someone proved really WAS "flatter than a pancake" ;-) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Look for the place with no elevation contours. :-) (...) What? False!!! Sam traveled Middle-earth from Mordor to the Grey Havens, something very few in Middle-earth could say that they had done. Now his old Gaffer, Hamfast, is given away by (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Yep, and I'd probably have no trouble with the places I've lived (and most of the places I've visited) in Aus. I'd probably take a little longer to find the places I stayed in the USA & Canada, but I think I'd generally get pretty close. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I0r5CA.243s@lugnet.com... (...) of (...) major (...) No, and I admit, I would have a harder time placing Kansas with just a map of natural features. (...) their (...) the US (...) (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I0r8qE.nzy@lugnet.com... (...) country on (...) non-stop (...) Moscow (...) edges' (...) True, I was just pointing out that 7 hours by itself isn't impressive. You need to add the fact (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I0rBKu.1C9r@lugnet.com... (...) into (...) Flying against the planetary rotation might get you somewhere, I'm not sure how all the dynamics work. What I do know is that in the (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Last I checked, it's faster to fly west than east, since you'd be flying into the planetary rotation instead of overtaking it. Also, you can't judge the size of a country very accurately by board-to-debark times, since many airlines pad those (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Have you ever lived in Kansas? ;) (...) Exactly. And to many Americans, knowing the geography of your neighboring States is roughly equivalent to knowing the geography of neighboring nations in Western Europe. The big difference is that most (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Yeah, Russia is _almost_ bigger than any two of the other 5 largest nations, even after having large chunks of the ex-U.S.S.R. lopped off (and one of those chunks still ranks at #9 for both total land-mass and total area). In 1998, the (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I0r83n.J72@lugnet.com... (...) country on (...) non-stop (...) Good point. I just checked for Seattle to Miami, it's 5 hrs 44 minutes. I looked at Alaska Airlines schedule, can't (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Added to that the idea that LA and Boston are on opposite coasts, whereas Moscow and the city whonse name I can't remember are not really near the 'outer edges' of the former Soviet Union. So the 7 hours was 'in country', not even going from (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Yeah, but LA to Boston is only 5 hours...he was flying east. Chris (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Hmmm, maybe it's a pretty darn big world after all! :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I0qwBt.2D3@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) Yep, your provinces are pretty big... (...) tagged (...) former (...) which (...) country on (...) Careful though, 7 hours doesn't sound that (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I0ny3F.F5E@lugnet.com... (...) easier than (...) the (...) where (...) If it's (...) the US (...) without (...) single (...) the (...) failing to (...) of (...) Hmm, I think I could (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Takes me 20 hours(ish) of straight driving to get from my place in Ontario to the next province--Manitoba Though I'd say the best story about size and geography--a friends father tagged along with a university undergrad study course to look at (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
Yes, I get tired of the "clueless American" geography issue, when I find so many non-US citizens are surprised to find out that I can drive for over 600 miles on relatively straight interstates without touching reaching the far end of the state I (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) It's also not spelled with a lower-case "s", but that's beside the point. (...) I've often wondered about this sort of thing. Admittedly, I have it easier than most US citizens, having lived my entire life on the longest lakeshore in the (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
 
(...) It sounds logical on paper, but after acceding to the English throne, James IV of Scotland (becoming James I of England) only returned to Scotland once during the whole of his rule, at which time he basically told them they were worthless (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) This sounds familiar. JOHN (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Geography (was: We'll take in your poor....)
 
(...) Ummmm scotsman only has one "t" :) And as an aside, it is a commonly held (mis?)conception in Australia (and more than likely elsewhere) that most Americans couldn't point to their home town on a map. But I was disappointed to see a Letterman (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) During the first research methodology course in grad school, we were given data on the just-graduated University of Missouri students for an exercise in statistics. I found that SAT was the best predictor of college academic success for the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) Hello, Pedro- (URL) Scholastic Aptitude Test> It is the standard test used by colleges for potential admissions. JOHN (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) Out of curiosity, what are those? Pedro (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
 
(...) They need to know that it's flawed intelligence before they can choose to ignore it on that basis. Last I checked the UN doesn't have a spy department, and SH was refusing access to their more direct information gathering services, like (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) ROFL! -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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