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(...) I disagree. Two hundred years ago, as now, the rights of the individual *were* paramount, but the definition of individual was very different and was suited to the demands of the time. Would slave-dependent states have signed the Constitution (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ob. Lego: Yes, you should rush out and read Louis Sullivan's essay "The Tall Office Building Artistically Considered"! and then go build! Also interesting: his _Autobiography of an Idea_ and _System of Ornament_. (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Speaking of reading, I suggest the anthology _An American Primer_ (Daniel J. Boorstin) for basic readings. Want Washington's Inaugral Address (to Congress) and Farewell Address? Jefferson's? John Adams' "What do we mean by the American Revolution?" (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, but this made me arrrrggh: "more omnipresent". "Omni-" means "all," making it redundant. Of course, *I* knew what you meant, but I'm just an omnidork. (...) Unfortunately we're still in the mindset of "with enough safeguards we can (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if they were alive today -- I'd kiss Thomas Jefferson, shake hands with guys like Madison and Jay, and kick Hamilton in the pain zone (::sigh:: if only Burr had killed him sooner =oP). No arguments over the value of the Declaration, it (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Richard! (...) *Actually*, to be fair, the "American Way" as you define it is *much* more omnipresent in the Declaration of Independence than in the Constitution. By *far*. Read it and weep, bro - and while you're at it, get a copy of the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The one in which the rights of the individual is ideally paramount. The one that enumerated those rights both in the body of the U.S. Constitution (basically a summary what the individual could expect the representative govt. to look and act (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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Hi John! First off, let me say - I hear you. I know what you're talking about (*and* Chris is right - you're speaking to the wrong crowd, people on lugnet are generally not crowd-followers(1)). I've seen it happen too as I was watching CNN lately. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose no sane courts would extradite without sound evidence. But even with sound evidence, it is a violation of basic principles of right to extradite suspects to a country in which they may face an "improper" justice. The recent events (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The good parts, of course. Unequal sufferage of the law was (and still is) a problem with the implementation of 'The American Way' not a flaw in it. We should keep working to improve our inclusion of all people. I don't seek to replicate the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm replying to bits of John's post as well as Chris'. (...) I think I understand your intended point here, but the notion that The American Way should be what it was 200 years ago is baseless and anachronistic. The American Way of 200 years ago was (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) the (...) the (...) have (...) months. And who will be in government when the time limit arrives? What's the chances they'll vote to extend it? (...) Our government passed an equally stupid bill regarding asylum seekers recently (with the help (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello Larry, it was sad for me to see things escalate in this way. I have by far not seen Scott as negative as you did, even saw some valid points in his posts. But then, being German, I may not be able to read between the lines as much as you do. I (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean over the past hundred years? It seems to me that today is the natural evolution of a hundred years of incrementally giving up the American way. (...) Yeah. From my informal discussion over the past two months, most people don't really (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It should be noted that ->people<- of the United States rejected the current guy residing in the White House. The joke was that as soon as Dubya got power, his first words would be, "Let the executions begin." (...) CNN: America's New (and (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think EU countries do not extradite where there is a chance of a death penalty anyway? ...perhaps OBL should come live in the EU? That aside, your point is an interesting one. Most of the new legislation allows for situations where there is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Although our plight is not as bad as elsewhere, I'm certainty not happy with the legislation we are rushing through right now. A few hours is being spent setting aside laws which have worked well for >500 years. By Xmas the UK will have laws (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For what it's worth, Norwegian courts can probably not extradite a suspected terrorist to USA anymore. This is due to the fact that they can stand a chance of being convicted by rules which are in conflict with basic international principles (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 4|\||) fr33|)0|\/| 0f 7yp1|\|9! (Perhaps the point has been taken a bit far now...) Fredrik (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi all, I have been observing recent events in the world, and i just have to say, the governments in some of the major western powers (UK, Canada, and especially the US)have lost their marbles completely. Most other parts of Europe seem to have (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or... Class....class.....SHUT UP!!!!!!! <thank you> Anyone spot *that* one? -John FUT .fun (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You got it, Toyota: (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Sad thing is, your demands are perfectly logical extensions of this kind of liberal, feel good, I'm okay, you're okay, no judgment insanity.... -(name withheld by request, lest anyone use it to harrass[1] me) [1] pronounced "Ha- rass", (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:GnIpI1.3Fo@lugnet.com... (...) And the rest aren't? (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Haven't you heard? l33t-bonics is a language now! It's per-teck-ted! I m hear 4 u! *Shudder*. I feel so dirty having typed that. best LFB, Defender of the Sacred Cow^H^H^H Orthodoxy (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please do so, but understand that Tore is exactly correct in urging you to direct your postings to their proper groups. Despite what some may think, LUGNET is not a homogeneous and publicly-owned forum; it is private property, and those who (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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in article GnKBvv.3nA@lugnet.com, Austin Greenwood at sonyplaystationgames...otmail.com wrote on 11/29/01 6:55 AM: (...) And freedum uv speling. (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But for me, it was out of the clear blue sky... that is my point. Like I said, I was "surprised". I still can't understand why he got uptight about calling the e-mail "junk mail". Bet let's not go over all that again... (...) Noted. (...) Did (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," the quote goes. We probably agree that you are frequently sharing your opinions on the (mis-)behavior of other people here. If you want some credibility with regards to your opinions on other (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All i can say is i will continue to exercise freedom of speach. (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ?????? I thought it was Life of Brian????? ROSCO (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I didn't mean shouting, per se, but that it is possible to fight noise by reasoning with the person making the noise. (...) I have participated actively in calls for banishment regarding multiple people on LUGNET. But, the cases I have (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oklahoma! Oklahoma! Oklahoma! Oklahoma! Oklahoma! *bangs pot* ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I don't think I understand what you mean by this. Do you mean that you can make Scott go away by shouting at him? Please have me excused if that was not what you meant, as I'm unsure about your allegory. (...) Thankfully, the overall (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not to mention the people making fun of people adding to the noise by telling people to quit making noise about noise. :-) "And their father's father's fathers!" (Spot the movie reference!) Fredrik (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Quiet down! I can't hear myself think! (I want some grey tiles) That's *better*. DaveE FUT fun (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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in article GnIq4K.5L2@lugnet.com, John Neal at John@TCLTC.org wrote on 11/28/01 10:07 AM: (...) I suppose...does that mean the hand of God? Rob (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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in article sandlin-49DB89.07353...ugnet.com, Mark Sandlin at sandlin@nwlink.com wrote on 11/28/01 9:35 AM: (...) Oh, *do* be quiet... 8) Rob (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GnIMuw.Hwo@lugnet.com... (...) start (...) fuel. D'oh! :-) (...) your (...) people, (...) Ayup. -Tim (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, but your analogy fails because the point of a controlled burn is to eliminate potential fuel, while verbal outbursts provide additional fuel. (...) And, to be fair, the calls for banishment have been directed at specific individuals (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes you could have. If it had been out of the clear blue sky, then mixing it up in a bit of a brawl would have been appropriate. Due to your special relationship with Larry, letting it go would have been. (...) Please note that I really (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. Larry was being strange over the weekend. I was genuinely surprised by some of what he was posting. I could not let is slide. (...) Chris, I try my best to be good. I try not to prod until I am prodded. There are all sorts of things which (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean the "HOG" :-) -John (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This one was silly Dave! Chris (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *KKKKeeeeerrrrsssssh...FFzzzzZZZ* ---SteveR (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) US citizens are apparently entitled to have their personal views established as national policy, here are a few changes I'm going to demand: Essays on "How I Spent My Summer Vacation" must be outlawed Teachers are forbidden to ask "How are you (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's really funny is people adding to the noise by telling people to quit making noise about noise. :^D ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know the historical reason for the name satanism. The main point of the ideology was to be an alternative to christianity. While in christianity you should compromise in this life, awaiting a better afterlife, satanists took the (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrd667vdznp.fsf....uio.no... (...) Can you successfully fight fire with a well-timed, controlled fire you start yourself? (...) Before saying 'fairly frequently,' I'd certainly (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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in article qrd4rnfmcjd.fsf@eos.uio.no, Fredrik Glöckner at fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no wrote on 11/28/01 4:10 AM: (...) IF that's the way it came about (and I am in no way certain it is accurate), I would have said they could have done a better job (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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in article GnHDvJ.Dw9@lugnet.com, John Neal at John@TCLTC.org wrote on 11/27/01 4:45 PM: (...) Maybe we need lugnet.lego.religion.debate; "Doe the HAND exist, or not?" 8) Rob (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My post is directed at the reply: (...) By this comment is it safe to say that you feel historical weapons and any death they caused are acceptable, but any in our "current time" are not? Weapons are an unavoidable part of our history and our (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The satanism concept is, BTW, hugely misunderstood. In it's original form, it has nothing to do with worshipping the devil. The satanism concept was originally thought of as the "opposite" of christianity. Satanists did not believe there was a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hey Y'all: There I was, fretting over my flu and lazing on the couch with a sleazy novel, when this program comes on television (sometimes I leave it on as background noise) that's all about this huge satanist conspiracy beginning with Aleister (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So your noble intent is what permits you to add even more noise to the discussion? Does this work, BTW? Can you successfully fight noise with noise? (...) You are fairly frequently asking for the banning of people. You are also frequently (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose you could do a 1x1 cone with an antenna piece through the middle -- you know, that ubiquitous 9-mm discarding sabot round for maximum penetrating power. :-, Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, you could probably model more standard ammo with just 1x1 rounds (pun not intended!) - the stud would give the appearance of a "round" tip...use grey for the bullet & colour of your choice for the casing. ROSCO (couldn't figure out where (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But that's just plain funny - what other sort of 1x1 cone is there? Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hehe I was wondering how the issue of juniorization would lead to a religious debate.... "If a loving God exists, why would He allow juniorization?", or using clones as proof for the existence of Satan....:-) -John <straying towards o.t.fun> (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not really-- but there's numerous places to have that debate. lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.harrypotter, etc. Depends on who you're interested in debating, and which particulars you're debating. Juniorization in general? I'd throw (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, please don't take offence, but where is one to start a discussion on the topic: "LEGO juniorization: Good or Bad"? I know it is not supposed to be here (off-offtopic as it is), but There is no Lugnet.On-topic.debate, is there? I want to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] (...) Yes!!!...!!! YES-YES-YES-YES-YES-...ES-YES-YES -YES-YES-YES-YES-YES...YES-YES-YE S-YES-YES-YES-YES-YE...-YES-YES-Y ES-YES-YES-YES-YES-Y...S-YES-YES- YES-YES! Just like Larry should fail to be baited by your antics. (...) We are (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, OK...sorry...you're right! Man. Talking to people about (or not about!) Lego is so, so much harder than just playing with Lego. I think I'll stick to the latter, and leave Hell to the demons. --Dave (jot and jab) xxx...xxx (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm still kind of confused. I think you're missing a bit of the semantic language in what was said--he's implying that though his Beretta is the vehicle that piqued people's interest in LEGO anew, they've come here and seen *everything*, and (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where did I say that I "did not want to receive the material"? You asked if I was too lazy to unsubscribe. I said "no". Can you not join the dots together? Scott A (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, You invade my privacy. You act on my behalf without my permission. You then, to top it all off, dress insults and weasel words up as an apology. What is one to think of you? Do you have no self respect? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But do these themes not represent the battle of "Good" against "Bad" in a simple way? I'm not sure a *model* gun does that? Jeff's gun is a model *not* a toy. As a model it is great. It is impressive. However, I don't want one. What affirmed (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) Lego didn't really "approve", they just gave the artist permission to use the logo before realizing exactly what the project was going to be. Apparently he approached them about modelling a "hospital" initially for an artistic piece he (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello, "David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GnH008.J1L@lugnet.com... (...) do (...) do, (...) Sorry .. i think you might understand I can't catch everything what someone might ever have built. I am interested in that one. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) heh, i have it bookmarked for just the same reason. :) Along with Dave Eaton's little piano, go figure :) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Isn't the idea of non-violent toys that we don't encourage the IDEA of violence? I mean, isn't an A-Bomb a historical weapon? Is that ok for a toy? How about a medieval torture chamber? At what point in history or fiction does a weapon (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He didn't build a weapon, as far as I can tell. He build a MODEL of one. Big difference. If he built an all plastic, working, lethal hand gun that could be assembled and disassembled from easily obtainable parts, you'd have a point. Something (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah yeah, tanks rule. Huhuhuhuhu, hehehe, huhuhu. Tanks are cool. Needless to say I also enjoy tanks, aircraft, in fact any kind of cool machinery, even gun mechanisms, just so long as I am not on the receiving end. If this makes me a nutter (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think a single AFOL's model represents the entire AFOL community, do you? I don't think people are going to look at a Lego gun and say "Gee, if *that's* what adults do with Lego, they shouldn't have it!". And if they do, they can live (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the romanticism of violence implicit in Pirate, Castle, Wild West, and Adventurers is far worse than the desire to make as accurate as possible a model of something which happens to be a weapon, though I obviously don't actually think (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) really? how do you figure? or was that sarcasm? if so, it doesn't refute my argument... (...) something like town? with bank robbers, police officers? All armed, by the way. (...) you maybe didn't tell him how to play, but you did tell him to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:200111271500.fA...ldomain... (...) Yeah. An a-bomb can too... (...) more (...) These are all fictional or historical themes as you may have noticed. Show me a LEGO theme that plays in our (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (I'll be the one to break the news) Nope. Frank loses. Mentioning LEGO in this NG is akin to mentioning "he who must not be named" (and I don't mean Voldemort.... you, know, what's his name.... okay, Hitler....D'oh!) (...) Well, don't come (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that is (...) would (...) not a (...) yah, I would be one of those people. I am also pro gun control, and yet I believe that it's not guns who kill, it's people. A gun can be used to protect, and save lives. (...) so no more pirate ships, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (again, i say this as a big gun control advocate) I believe many people would argue with you here. I know many gun collectors who own beretta's, and not a single one of them has killed any humans. (...) Sproat already said it, but it's worth (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hooray! I read all eighteen hundred posts in all seventy threads, and this is the only solitary one that actually refers to LEGO BLOCKS! Thanks, Frank!! You win!!! How has this perfectly fun little toy brand come to be a means to an end for (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fortunately, people would still tend to see Lego as a toy and not a weapon IMHO. (Those who seriously consider Lego a weapon already have serious issues that this particular model won't affect one way or another.) Folks tend to associate with (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Check the post dates. (...) Why is that people like you think it is OK for Larry to be a pest. But as soon as I defend myself I'm a "troll"? Is this the type of "debate" you want: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, you are the troll here, not I. Do you seariouslsy doubt that? Really? What was this thread all about: (URL) was a troll to start the "god" debate *again*. (...) Rubbish. I mostly only post here or loc.uk. You have started more arguments (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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in article GnFpB6.6pB@lugnet.com, Larry Pieniazek at lpieniazek@mercator.com wrote on 11/26/01 6:57 PM: (...) Thus spake the Marvel comics villain. (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GnFpB6.6pB@lugnet.com... (...) care, (...) not (...) Well, at least 17 people have approved. As for the rest of the people here? We will never know. Note, there's no longer a way of (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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Larry: I think that you are seeing your own role in this in too positive a light, I even perceive that you are trying to dress up your contest with Scott as somehow heroic on behalf of the greater community on your part. It just ain't so -- at least (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, but do they care enough to do what needs to be done? And if they care, is that thing a doable thing just because they care? I don't think so. Any call for a penalty for anyone is just whistling in the wind because it's not the community (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:m3pu65cvzh.fsf@...ldomain... (...) Yep. And its also a good thing we have people like Chris, Lawrence, Shiri, Richard, Lindsay, Frank, etc are here to do the same. (People who (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's a good thing we have you here to make sure that the show goes on, then, isn't it. If you want the debate to die out, you may want to avoid joining it, and especially in that tone. I've seen you doing this a lot of times, BTW. You shout (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not measurably better. No lives have been saved. But sure, I agree there will have been a benefit. (...) No. (...) No. (...) I don't really think that is where the UN's skills lie. I'd be a little worried if the UN chose to help that cause in (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So? Do you have an eBay page? Do you list information that will help you to get better sales? (...) Sure. (...) Probably a little. (...) I imagine it would depend on the mechanism behind this hypothetical "chance of negative PR." Now I get to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You all take this far too seriously. If you can detach yourselves a bit you'll see it's kind of like observing an exhibit of dung beetles in a glass case. They roll up great balls of dung, periodically have territorial fights and displays of (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From the ebay LD page: ==+== LEGO Shop At Home LEGO Shop At Home features the newest items, plus hard to find toys, reissued classics, and special items not available in any store. LEGO Shop At Home offers the fastest, most convenient way to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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NO NO NO NO NO!!! Don't you see the point of all of our posts expressing our COMPLETE DISGUST with the Scott and Larry Show???!?!!!?! All you're doing here is continuing it with half a dozen more PETTY BICKERING POSTS amed at Larry. Grow up, get a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They had to announce the auction. I mean, it only makes sense. Further, letting us all know that by bidding on those items, we could be helping the victims of 911 only makes sense too. That doesn't make it a cheap PR plug. (...) How could _I_ (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) None of us are perfect Chris. Staff groups can raise all the money they want for charity as far as I am concerned. I'm just not all that hot on companies using charity for cheap PR. Look at the time and effort LD spent on those auctions. Cost (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott, Showed more tact! I guess there is nothing wrong with your thinking what you think. And there's nothing wrong with stating it in the right venue. And there's nothing wrong with exploring that idea with others in a productive way. But (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
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(...) My view on that still stands. Perhaps I should have bit my lip or showed more tact, but my view still stands. I'm afraid I would rather have unpopular views than change my views to represent public opinion. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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