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Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:09:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> Carsten Schmitz wrote:
> >
> > "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:200111271500.fARF04d15527@localhost.localdomain...
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> >
> > > yah, I would be one of those people. I am also pro gun control, and yet I
> > > believe that it's not guns who kill, it's people. A gun can be used to
> > > protect, and save lives.
> >
> > Yeah. An a-bomb can too...
> >
> > > > > Lego was to be meant as a toy, weapons are not.
> > >
> > > so no more pirate ships, warships, any military models, wild west,
> > > aquazone(/raiders, etc) classic space, star wars.... I'm sure there's • more
> > > "non-toy" themes, but I get tired of listing them.
> >
> > These are all fictional or historical themes as you may have noticed.
> > Show me a LEGO theme that plays in our current time which uses weapons?
>
> I think the romanticism of violence implicit in Pirate, Castle, Wild
> West, and Adventurers is far worse than the desire to make as accurate
> as possible a model of something which happens to be a weapon, though I
> obviously don't actually think it's really all that bad (seeing as my
> favorite themes are Pirate and Castle, and I love Evil Stevies Pirate
> Game).
But do these themes not represent the battle of "Good" against "Bad" in a
simple way? I'm not sure a *model* gun does that?
Jeff's gun is a model *not* a toy. As a model it is great. It is impressive.
However, I don't want one. What affirmed this was this line from his site:
"Hollow point ammo for maximum stopping power."
There is a valid argument that many kid’s toys are too violent. The way to
fight that is to lobby toy manufacturers, distributors and retailers (good
luck). Individuals may even seek a legislative answer to the problem.
However, giving Jeff a hard time for his rather fantastic model has no real
point. Sure, some may argue it "taints" Lugnet - but I think those people
must be pretty thin skinned if it upsets them all that much. I would suggest
they built a more “positive” model to cancel the perceived harm…
Scott A
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> > > Sure, go ahead and play
> > > with LEGO however you like, but please, don't tell others how... I
> >
> > See. I understand why you say this. Fact is that I didnt tell anyone how to
> > play Lego.
> > I just didnt want to be represented as a member of the AFOL communtiy by a
> > person
> > that builds weapons of it because I (and its only my opinion that i state
> > here) would
> > not use Lego for something like that.
>
> If you don't feel this community represents your views, you are free to
> express that feeling (in the appropriate forum), though I don't think
> the communitity will change (afterall, lugnet.build.military was
> recently added). If you do want the community acceptance to change, the
> best place to raise the issue is probably either by private e-mail with
> the administrators, or in lugnet.admin.general. lugnet.off-topic.debate
> is an appropriate place to debate the general idea of using LEGO as a
> media to model weapons.
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