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| | | Three points of principal here: A. If you want to sell something start your own thread. B. If you must butt-in on mine, at least have the courtesy to wait until my auction has closed. C. See A. Thank you. [SteveScott] Eric (Parasite) McCarthy wrote (...) (26 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | Followups set to off-topic.debate, this could get flamey... (...) c /principal/principle/ ... never make spelling mistakes in flame-bait posts. You tend to attract nitpickers like me. (...) I don't think butt-in is hyphenated, BTW. Just FYI. HTH. (...) (26 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <36DF1196.434E01DB@v...er.net>... (...) Wouldn't be the same witout (cue) you Larry :) (...) my (...) Thanks for the generous contribution to my TLA legend. (...) par.a.site - any organism that grows, feeds and is (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Interesting. I'm glad you posted the dictionary definition, it warms this old pedant's heart to see argument from authority. :-) I see your reasoning, I think. In your view, either you're the organism (and an appendage of the organism is the (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Always willing to oblige. (...) Agreed. (...) I don't think so. Actually, everything but the parasite comment was ok im my (admittedly hardened by a few years of Usenet) view. A bit piqued, yes, but parasite is going too far, not in the least (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | (...) word on the Lego (...) Ok, I think I'm missing something here. Would someone care to explain why the "P" word is so loaded on the Lego groups. I'm curious to know how it can attract more flak than a pornographic binary. If I was to nip down to (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) Have you read the recent Star Wars scalper discussions? To me personally, being called something that has been defined as the antithesis of everything AFOL stands for, hurts me more than a random guy calling me dickhead, fuckbrain, or (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) From Merriam-Webster at (URL) Entry: par·a·site Pronunciation: 'par-&-"sIt Function: noun Etymology: Middle French, from Latin parasitus, from Greek parasitos, from para- + sitos grain, food Date: 1539 1 : a person who exploits the hospitality (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | Hello Lugnet auction participants: As you might have noticed, I took the liberty of responding to this Lugnet auction thread with an offer to sell at a lesser price. (The thread was "Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge") I knew this might annoy (...) (26 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) I think the only one who could determine if it is unethical would be Todd, since this is his site, he's the one who determines what is and isn't "right" on it. (That being said) I don't think it is unethical. BMS, (1) unethical would be (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | James Brown wrote in message ... {snippity doo dah} (...) in a (...) Posting to the group serves the same purpose doesn't it? (...) I've retracted that comment in the interests of continuing a constructive debate :) (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) If i were to email the high bidder with such an offer, I would expect him to honor his bid. I wouldn't expect him to outbid the next bidder, if someone raises his offer, though. I have been in such a situation before, and honored my bid. It's (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Or, you can do business at places that do retroactive price matching. When last we bought a television, we purchased it at Circus City and found at on sale a Dillard's (their last one) the next day. We went back to CC and got a refund of the (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | (...) I agree with you. (...) You're in the right. (...) If I were you I wouldn't be willing to change my opinion no matter what anyone else says, but you've obviously gotten the support of the majority of the people who have responded to this (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Thomas Main
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| | | | | | | (...) I wouldn't say it was unethical but I think it would have been more courteous as well as responsible to start a separate thread. While no one "owns" a particular thread, auction threads usually only have one purpose - to announce and update (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | Ok, I've slept on it and am less angry than I was last night. Apologies for getting personal with the "parasite" comment, but I was annoyed as you clearly expected that I would be. Even in your own words, you "took a liberty" and that is the basis (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Some sales have been run this way. I believe it is called a 'reverse auction'. Steve (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | different types of auctions (was: Re: which threads, ethics ...) —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I think this sort of a reverse auction is a great idea. There has to be a large enough number of sellers at any given time for it to work, though. Eventually I think there will be. Even better, IMO, is where sellers could register sets that (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: different types of auctions (was: Re: which threads, ethics ...) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yup, reverse auctions (not to be confused with reserve auctions! :) are mentioned in the second paragraph here: (URL) Another thing, the charter of this group is: (...) Definitely. At least, it fits perfectly into the category of discussions (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) This is a specious argument as this is a real, actually used, and extremely valid auction format. I've done it myself as a buyer. Just as a seller's auction is good for scarce things, a buyer's auction is good for plentiful things. It is (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | | -----Original Message----- From: Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> Newsgroups: lugnet.off-topic.debate Date: 05 March 1999 23:07 Subject: Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) (...) I take your point that (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) First, why would that be a problem? Second, I doubt it. Third, if the market is such that this _could_ happen, I might say that it _should_ happen. (...) Yes, let's. (...) Excellent! So the sellers (remember, Larry said this was a situation in (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | Thanks, Chris. You explained it better than I had time to... There is always (beneficial) "chaos" in a free market. If a buyer or a seller prefers an unfree market, I prefer not to deal with them. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Steve, could you go into a bit more detail here? I don't understand what you mean by restricting auctions to a single seller. Do you mean restricting auction threads to a single poster (the seller)? (...) Chaos maybe in terms of sifting (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | | Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) That was the idea, yes. Problem is, in the interim period since my original post I'm not so convinced that it was a good idea. It now sees to me that this type of system would prove restrictive to the (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) AKA: A Dutch auction. Why is this bad? (And I'm not just saying that because I'm Dutch, damnit! ;-> ) Jasper (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36e75d14.42911029@l...et.com>... (...) It's not bad, my post was a bit unclear. The point I was trying to make was that if a standard auction is "siphoned" then it could turn into a Dutch auction. Cheers (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Point taken. A standard auction can turn into a dutch auction if market conditions change. Why is that bad? Those calling for "orderly markets" are usually just about to do something stupid like slap price controls or tariffs or unrealistic (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Naji Norder
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| | | | | | | This practice is called "Bid Siphoning." While it might be "good" for buyers, it _is_ discourteous, and is specifically forbid in most auction venues. From eBay's rules: "You may not email bidders in a currently open auction being run by a different (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | | | (...) I would like to differentiate "it _is_ discourteous" from "you find it to be discourteous." Clearly, some folks do not consider it discourteous. (...) But I didn't email any bidders. (...) But I didn't contact any bidders. I posted another (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Naji Norder
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| | | | | | | | | First of all, I think I successfully cross-posted this to lugent.off-topic.debate. Please remove market.auction in any replies. (...) I stand corrected. However, courtesy is not something that can be decided by individuals, because it is a social (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | (...) It might have been more politic to either change the subject, or edit the "References:" header, or both. By posting to the same thread, you _are_ effectively walking in on Steve, instead of being _completely_ separate. Note that I don't think (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Not to pick nits, but as much as Todd has shown himself willing to adapt things to fit the needs and wants of his users, any kind of "vote" held by the people who use Lugnet won't necessarily have any effect on how things are done here. This (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Naji Norder
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| | | | | | | | | | This thread has come halfway through my semester course on the history of business and money in the US, so I'm just brimming with opinion on this stuff. (I finished reading _The Jungle_ just a few days ago.) Business and commerce are certainly (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Who hates each other? I saw a lot of harsh things, I hate almost no one. Hate is a very special emotion that isn't really meant to be wasted on trivial things like online discussions. A person can only have so much hate and be healthy, so it's (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Hate? I've never yet found a thing worthy of hate. And _certainly_ not in newsgroups of one kind or another. Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics vote —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | Naji Norder wrote in message <36E43042.92BEBE44@c...er.org>... here are the two questions that I would put to a vote. (...) No (...) Yes (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics vote —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Define "within the thread of another", please. Threads are not owned. Therefore, yes to both questions. Now, the first may be a bit cheekier, but it's certainly better than private emails to the bidders making offers. Which is what you might (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | Naji Norder wrote in message <36E575D9.557F30E6@c...er.org>... (...) Hey (back me up here Eric) nothing could be further from the truth! We kissed and made up (well, exchanged apologies actually) on day two. Then Mike bailed in with a couple of (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I actually have documented proof that I am anything but a moron, if you must know. The rest certainly describe me at various times, especially lately. (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Steve Scott wrote: (...) I'll back you up. Steve apologized both publicly and privately for the parasite remark and I told him I was sorry I upset him by posting to that thread. I don't hate him. However, I think the principle of whether (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) ^^^...^^^ (...) Hey, I've always wanted something like that -- maybe a little card that I could keep in my wallet and pull out whenever I did something stupid. Like when I accidentally put a loaf of bread in someone else's grocery cart. --Todd (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one. :) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I would advocate only the inclusion of an FYI note in the FAQ pointing out that this sort of thing is viewed as irritating by some people and viewed as natural by others, and further that doing this has historically been met with criticism. (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Naji Norder
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I think that this sounds like a good solution. Naji n (dot) norder (at) computer (dot) org (26 years ago, 16-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) "I put wha? No that's my-- Wait, no. That's yourk--No wait, it's mine, it's got my bread I just put in. I don't get it, where's your cart then? You just put a box of oatmeal in mine. Oh wait, maybe this one *is* yours. I -- oykay I -- see what (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Beth Reiten
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| | | | | | | | | | | | I am SO glad that I'm not the only one who does that!! Don't get between me and my cart, or you're going to get boxes of cereal lobbed into your head! Beth Reiten (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) "Okay, I'm sorry! Please put the box of Grape Nuts(1) down!!" ;) Jeff (1)- Because of the weight, a box of Grape Nuts are the most lethal of cereals. ;) (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Beth Reiten
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| | | | | | | | | | <MPG.11561fd1c5b09f5...ugnet.com> <36ECAEF4.7E759E00@net-art.de> <F8n6op.B37@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although, some of the Muselix over here could give Grape Nuts a run for it's (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | I'll take you on with a large box of 100% Natural any day!! (...) (26 years ago, 17-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | <F8Cu8J.LyK@lugnet.com> <slrn7ebu7q.3dt.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Sure, but if you can be those other things (whining, bitching, glib, ass) on a part time basis, even a bright (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics vote —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | <F8CsL7.Jq0@lugnet.com> <36E5F82E.693B3B6@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we all use common courtesy and play well there should be no (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I don't see this as an oversight at all. It's a natural part of the market dynamics and of competition in a free market. It's not something that everyone feels comfortable doing, and it's certainly not something that everyone is happy having (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's right. Every LUGNET design and development decision is approached with the overall near- and long-term needs of the community in mind (so near as those needs can be understood) but in the end, it is a business just as any other -- and (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) Bravo. Couldn't have (obviously) said it better myself. :) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Although, strictly speaking, it is unnecessary to jump into the middle of an auction thread in order to sell an item similar to what is being sold on that thread, once could easily argue that doing so adds value to the overall usefulness of (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) This isn't "your" thread, you know. (...) Why? You've obviously got a lot of bidders interested in yours, otherwise the price wouldn't be so high. It sounds like you don't want competition. In general, buyers do want competition among sellers. (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) Not in the literal sense of the word no, but I was the originator and the sole contributor for a considerable time. Let's just say I adopted it. (...) Of course I don't, show me a seller who does! You'll be (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) Well, in a free market your wants as a seller are somewhat secondary to the wants of the much larger group of buyers you want to do business with, aren't they? (...) I often like to flatter myself, thanks. And while I wouldn't presume to say I (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) Quite the opposite actually - when there are more buyers than sellers, you have a sellers market. Sellers have the upper hand. Its a fairly elementary concept. (...) speak (...) people". (...) To quote one of (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) Look, buddy, there is a real difference between saying: "You are acting cluelessly" to someone who has most probably earned it fair and square, and calling someone who has _NOT_ earned it a parasite. To even suggest that "parasite" and (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, but sometimes it is more fun to watch someone else do it for me. :) Especially when I'm right. (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Probably not. (...) I agree completely. (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | | Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) THUD....Sound of me fainting :) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I know I'm not perfect. In fact, I'm well aware of how unperfect I am in many ways. My personal dislike for Buel and his past "business practices" taint anything I might comment on with regards to him. I realize this is obvious to some, and I (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) What's the difference? The parasite earned it...and what's so bad about being a parasite? Buel commonly earns it...and could he say anything and not rile Mike? I agree with Steve on this one. Mike is plenty derogatory when he gets going, and (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —John DiRienzo
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| | | | | | | MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS POST: END THIS THREAD! I read several groups each morning, looking for things to buy, thus I have lugnet.market.auction on my newsgroups to read list. No off-topic.debate. I don't have time to read debates, and normally don't (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | John DiRienzo wrote: <snip> John, I agree with most of what you say. A few points though. I was pretty careful to set my followups each time and I don't respond to this thread over there. But I do think it's useful to discuss mores and manners. No (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | (...) I'd say if you have multiple sellers competing to the point that lower prices are offered that annoy you then you don't quite HAVE that seller's market. If you as a seller want $1,000 for your set that normally fetches $200 it doesn't matter (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Exactly the point I was making. I'm glad you agree at last. (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Not agreeing at all. You tried to construct this straw man to justify your "ownership" of a thread and your reaction to someone else posting to it in what you viewed as competition with your auction. You don't own the thread. The toyshop owner (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Actually, Mike, if you're the _only_ one offering that set at that time, the random guy willing to pay $1k _might_ not be a moron. Just like people willing to pay 2-3 times retail for SW sets _now_ aren't necessarily morons, just very, very (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) While I suppose there are people to whom $800 is so insignificant that it isn't worth waiting for another to come along, I don't know any of them. I can't imagine even Larry doing that, primarily because it has been my experience that foolish (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) Have you heard about this guy William H Gates the third? He throws away $800 _million_ because he can't wait till someone else launches a few satellites. Jasper "tongue-in-cheek"Janssen (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, Billy doesn't really exist in the same world as the rest of us. Hell, if he does what he's said he'll do with his money and gives 95% of it away to science and charity he'd still have more than any sane person could spend in a few (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | | John DiRienzo wrote in message ... (...) {snip} (...) Funny way to end a thread? (...) The name is Steve actually, but formalities aside, yes I do see it as a sellers market. (...) much out (...) YOUR definition here BTW, not mine, and a cynical one (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Steve Scott
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| | | | | | Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) I think you've hit the nail on the head. I'm getting bored with the bickering, and I figure others must be as well. I'll continue to post to the other part of this thread re standard auctions turning into (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | In some cases, I'm pretending that you addressed me instead of Mike, so if it looks like I'm answering for him, that's not my intent. (...) I guess you have the 'right' to feel some kind of artificial ownership, but you're likely to be hurt (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) Auctions and threads do not generally have a one-to-one correspondence. Sometimes they do, but when they do, try to keep in mind that you are conducting an auction using an NNTP newsgroup system -- a text-based medium designed and optimized (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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