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Subject:	Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.market.auction
Date:	Mon, 8 Mar 1999 06:18:42 GMT
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Naji Norder wrote: > > This practice is called "Bid Siphoning." While it might be "good" for > buyers, it _is_ discourteous, and is specifically forbid in most auction > venues. I would like to differentiate "it _is_ discourteous" from "you find it to be discourteous." Clearly, some folks do not consider it discourteous. > From eBay's rules: > "You may not email bidders in a currently open auction being run by a > different seller, offering similar or the same items at any price level > (bid siphoning), nor may you use an alias to place bids on your auction > for any reason." But I didn't email any bidders. > From Yahoo's rules: > "You cannot disrupt other auctions in progress (for example, by > contacting bidders in an auction being run by a different seller and > then offering similar items or the same item at prices below the current > bid)." But I didn't contact any bidders. I posted another offer in an open forum. It is as if I had another auction for the same item. People do that in Ebay all the time. Sincerely, /Eric McCarthy/

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		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
First of all, I think I successfully cross-posted this to lugent.off-topic.debate. Please remove market.auction in any replies. (...) I stand corrected. However, courtesy is not something that can be decided by individuals, because it is a social (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
(...) It might have been more politic to either change the subject, or edit the "References:" header, or both. By posting to the same thread, you _are_ effectively walking in on Steve, instead of being _completely_ separate. Note that I don't think (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
(...) Not to pick nits, but as much as Todd has shown himself willing to adapt things to fit the needs and wants of his users, any kind of "vote" held by the people who use Lugnet won't necessarily have any effect on how things are done here. This (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics vote
Naji Norder wrote in message <36E43042.92BEBE44@c...er.org>... here are the two questions that I would put to a vote. (...) No (...) Yes (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
Naji Norder wrote in message <36E575D9.557F30E6@c...er.org>... (...) Hey (back me up here Eric) nothing could be further from the truth! We kissed and made up (well, exchanged apologies actually) on day two. Then Mike bailed in with a couple of (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
<F8Cu8J.LyK@lugnet.com> <slrn7ebu7q.3dt.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Sure, but if you can be those other things (whining, bitching, glib, ass) on a part time basis, even a bright (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics vote
<F8CsL7.Jq0@lugnet.com> <36E5F82E.693B3B6@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we all use common courtesy and play well there should be no (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
(...) I don't see this as an oversight at all. It's a natural part of the market dynamics and of competition in a free market. It's not something that everyone feels comfortable doing, and it's certainly not something that everyone is happy having (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
(...) That's right. Every LUGNET design and development decision is approached with the overall near- and long-term needs of the community in mind (so near as those needs can be understood) but in the end, it is a business just as any other -- and (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: which threads, ethics (was: Re: Mini Auction - 6273 - Rock Island Refuge)
This practice is called "Bid Siphoning." While it might be "good" for buyers, it _is_ discourteous, and is specifically forbid in most auction venues. From eBay's rules: "You may not email bidders in a currently open auction being run by a different (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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