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  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) Mike, You are quite welcome. Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCs1DE.1qy9@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) it (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Me too! He seems pretty responsive, maybe it won't take him too long! ;-) On serious note - Kevin - (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message [ ... snipped ... ] (...) LEGO's (...) the (...) [ ... snipped ... ] This makes a lot of sense to me. I spent a lot of time looking at some more complex LEGO instructions when I was (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
[ ... snipped ... ] (...) (along (...) all (...) sleep?) (...) [ ... snipped ... ] This request is in the same veign as the request I made to have LPub support some level of scripting. (URL) a scripting interface, you could batch up a whole series (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) Although, having the ability to render each occurrence separately if desired may possibly be useful (but I don't think I'd use it...) ROSCO (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) Well, really only the first usage *in each level* (...) 8?) ROSCO (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) You bring up an interesting and nasty case. What is missing from the explanation is that currently LPub renders the first occurrence of the sub-model, and skips the rest. To handle this case, LPub has to render all occurrences of the sub-model (...) (22 years ago, 4-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) I assume poor level 2 was missed by accident? 8?) Does your recursion tie the background colour to the sub-file, or the tree? In other words, if I have a small sub-model which is used directly in the main model, and again in another sub-model, (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web Searching Reveals More LDraw Programs
 
(...) The following already reported programs should be listed as well: Edger: (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) The BOM information is recursive to include all levels of sub-models, so I think we're talking the same thing. (...) So we are rapidly running into one of the *major* enhancement areas of LPub: page layout I see two different issues here: The (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) main (...) Yup. (...) right? (...) I'll assume this one is a non-issue as it already has a solution. (...) Yes. This is what I'm proposing. (...) It opens the top level file which is considered level 0. Top level file is examined sub models. (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web Searching Reveals More LDraw Programs
 
(...) I've never even heard of these before...I'll look into Dan adding them to the download pages. -Tim (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCrxBz.1Bso@lugnet.com... (...) needed to (...) Yes, and the same for the included sub-sub-models as well. It would be good to have a control for doing this or not for each step (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) Wow... I was originally trying to get across a single basic concept using multiple examples, but I guess it did turn into several directions! (...) Sure, that could be a simple way to do this. I had mentioned it as part of this idea in case it (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hard to keep up with new requests at this rate :^) Besides, I get to decide if it is major or minor...... (...) I put this in the minor part of the list. (...) I put this in the major part of the list. (...) Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) A couple more minor requests: - Would be great if the textual status window at the top of the LPub app had scrollbars in order to page back through previous textual info - Would be great to be able to queue up multiple files to be rendered (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) I think this is a great idea, and can provide another recent example of why this would be wonderful to have. Using LPub, I recently ran a large model with about 6 submodels. I kicked it off before I went to bed, and it had completed by mid-day (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Sounds terrific! Thanks! Jake --- Jake McKee LEGO Enthusiast Webmaster - B.I. Portal (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web Searching Reveals More LDraw Programs
 
(...) you fill me in? Jake --- Jake McKee LEGO Enthusiast Webmaster - B.I. Portal (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
(...) Hi Jennifer, Let me try to restate this by example: Step N adds three LDraw parts, plus a sub-model. You want the part list image for Step N to include the three added parts, plus all the parts needed to create the sub-model. Right? Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCruK9.11n6@lugnet.com... (...) sub-models (...) ... Something I would like to see (and forgive me if it has been mentioned before) is a way to merge the BOM for a submodel into the (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Web Searching Reveals More LDraw Programs
 
I was looking for more parts and founds the following: LDraw to DirectX: (URL) (I don't know if this was already known but it's not listed at LDraw.org) (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Background color controls for constr and part list images
 
Hi, I'm wanting to add support for different background colors for sub-models (also fonts/styles/colors used in PLI and BOMs). LEGO's building instructions use a different background color for each level of sub-model used, and it uses the same color (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  directory controls for generated LPub files
 
Hi All, I'm architecting the ability to have the files generated by LPub to be placed in directories other than the directory that contains the DAT/LDR/MPD file being processed. This feature is meshes with the bug that LPub's automatic use of (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) I figured someone would ask this soon :^) Probably early next week. You can see the bugs I've fixed and the new features I've added on (URL) think I've gotten the killer bugs out of the way, and implemented many of the "simple to add" (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCrpGz.Irp@lugnet.com... (...) I'm not (...) that (...) same. (...) not (...) resume. (...) This is great news - this is a feature I expect I will use extensively. What is the ETA of (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Jake, I came up with an even simpler solution. I added a Pause/Resume button to the "cancel" dialog. Click the Pause button, and after POV-Ray finishes the image it is rendering, the process pauses until you click resume. Kevin (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) First I have to recreate it on Windows98, which means I have to set up a win98 box. I'm sure I can fix it if I can recreate it. Can you try running lsynthcp directly? It is in the Lsynth/bin directory. Its usage is: lsynthcp <inputfile> (...) (22 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Mine too. Anyway, replace LPUB by LSYNTH and you'll have my install paths. (...) the (...) Right. Can you fix it? Jaco (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCqIBJ.12tn@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) current (...) build (...) construction (...) not (...) BOMs, (...) For this type of LPub run I am not concerned about image (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Mike, I've added it to the list. Minimally I could see it affecting construction image size, and possibly some quality and anti-aliasing controls, but I'm not sure it makes sense to affect rendering of parts for part list images and BOMs, (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCKpqw.1x7x@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) for (...) hand. (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I am chasing an issue that failed halfway through a render right now. Fortunately I am (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) My mistake. I meant Lsynth. It is probably a win98 bug on my part as I develop on win2K, but sometimes the path thing messes me up. Kevin (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
At home I installed it in C:\LDRAW\PROGRAMS\LPUB on a Win98-SE PC. But I do not see what that has to do with anything for it does work on my W2K PC at work, where I installed it in D:\MJ\LDRAW\PROGRAM\LPUB. Jaco "Kevin L. Clague" (...) (22 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
(...) I don't know. Sounds to me more like a gimmick than something useful. I wouldn't implement it unless it strikes you as something really fun to try. I think rigging CldliteApp::InitInstance() to be able to render offscreen without a window (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Jaco, Can you give me specifics of where LPub is installed? Thanks, Kevin (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
I'd like to add one more bug in LSynth. The display message does not work in Win98. Jaco (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) have already been fixed, and features I'm adding, for those who want to know what I'm up to. Kevin (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) I was rethinking this one and thought I might just add support for LDraw's PAUSE meta-command. You can place it wherever you want. (...) For performance reasons, LPub caches the part images once they are rendered, so we would have to break (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
(...) Na, don't be quiet... rather, thanks for being obstinate about it! Yes, indeed, you are correct, and it looks like I am all wet. Paint Shop Pro fooled me. My bad. Sorry for any confusion. ++Lar (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
Your help is always appreciated Don! I just tried out LDLite v2.4, and it looks OK too, as do the BMP files Larry sent me. I think it is a problem with aliasing. Which reminds me, I was going to add a dithering-expander option, so that trans-colors (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
(...) Ok, but I just tested flat.dat with ldlite 2.3 and your command line: ldlite.exe -W2 -MS -S3.0 -C15 -A0.707104,0,0.70710...-0.650895, 0.390731,0.650895 -D1 -U02500,02500 -I-4 -K flat.dat It worked just fine on Win2K with only 192MB. However, I (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Used to, not any more. I built in my own "renderer" -Orion (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Art of Illusion
 
Hey everyone - After some private email exchange with Wayne Gramlich and Kevin Clague, Wayne emailed me this (quoting with permission): (...) Wayne posted about AOI back in the fall, and I don't think it got many responses, if any. I know a few (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) If you want an example of the quality you can get with this technique, take a peek at the Family Car instructions on this page. (URL) almost positive it was done with the edge thickening and scaling method described by Larry. Don (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) I'm not sure if there are any others, but the LTrax meta-commands are definitely not in all caps. And, according to Tore (the LTrax author), the LTrax program doesn't treat them as case-sensitive. --Travis (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) All of LDView's rendering code is actually already encapsulated into a static library. It's not a DLL because I decided that having the DLL complicated the LDView distrubution overly much (especially for screen saver support). It wouldn't be (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Gyug has said that LDLite and LDGLite are trying to share code, FWIW... (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Orion Pobursky uses LDGLite as a renderer to generate previews in his Bezier Curve Generator plugin for LDDesignPad. -Tim (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) I missed this bit before. I thought Jake was asking about why I didn't use MLCad for rendering. (...) I agree with this approach, I don't think you should write your own renderer, we don't need YARenderer at this point. Just link them in as (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
<snip> (...) I understood. It is a bug. (...) Yes, well there are numerous windows apps that can render LDraw files quickly on the screen, but just because LPub doesn't support it doesn't mean LPub has a bug. ;-) (...) Running a vote would be cool, (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Looking into other renderers was just a thought of mine. Your requests for pause controls is indicitive of the cost of high quality rendering. For those who do not want to pay that price they have to lay out BIs by hand. I don't have a desire (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Maybe the simple way covers all the needs. (...) Yeah, I just started typing... :) (...) Perhaps I should give a bit more detail. What I mean is even when operations are canceled, or you actually click the "Cancel" button in this dialog, the (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) It's good enough for what I use it for, and it doesn't require POV, and it's way way way way faster. I'd never tie up my PC for two days rendering, that's just unacceptable. (...) Maybe. Read the help on the command line options to se what (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Seems simple enough. (...) Simple also, as long as it is at *every* sub-model. Careful what you ask for. (...) This is about 8 enhancement requests you know. Not just preferences per sub-model, but also global BOM inclusion/exclusion per (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) But is this only comparing MLCad to LDLite? While I would agree that the batch processing abilities seem cool, the quality just doesn't seem to compare if you also factor in MegaPOV to the mix. That being said... am I missing something? There (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Here are a few more ideas: - Basic Pause function (this may be handled just fine by POVRAY, but I'm not that familiar with it. Reason: When you are working off of one machine that I share, either I need to quickly check email, or let my wife (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Oh, I should also note that it's embeddable in batch files, since it has a command line interface. When you have hundreds or thousands of images to render across 30-40 submodels, that's very very important. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) Kevin did a pretty exhaustive search for meta command and all of the one's he listed were in all caps. The command word needs to be in all caps, the command parameters don't need to be. (if I'm reading the spec correctly) -Orion (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) If we could figure out a *fast* interface for getting images between a renderer and LPub (fast enough to be interactive like I know Willy wants) then yes. The ideal solution would to be to have one of these renderers as a DLL library that I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) The reference to LDLite is really a generic reference to renderers other than POV-Ray. I've not done a lot of homework on LDLite, but if it can be an alternative renderer to POV-Ray it has a few advantages including rendering speed (as it is (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Better rendering control. While I use MLCad for model capture and review, I use LDLite as a rendering tool for final instruction images, as it is much more flexible and gives me fine grained control over more things. YMMV. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Is this where LDLite might come into play? Jake --- Jake McKee Webmaster- B.I. Portal (URL) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) This may be a dumb question, but what exactly is the benefit of LDLite? From what I have seen (and this is probably wrong) LDLite simply allows you to look at a model in 3D space, much like the 3D view in MLCad. What am I missing? Jake --- (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) got it! to me "renderer" means raytracing, radiosity ... progs like povray, 3ds, bryce ... sorry for messing up. bye w. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Willy, I understood you perfectly. Maybe you didn't understand me. LPub is not a renderer. I know all too well that hard for me means easy for you, but in saying that you are completely ignoring that it is *hard for me* :^( (...) Kevin (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) hi kevin, you probably "missundaztood" me. I was thinking of the following feature: loading a .ldr or .mpd it shows up in a preview-frame in the camera tab, like the hose, spring or minifig in MLCad. rotating the model in the preview-frame (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Willy, (...) Thanks for this one. (...) Please note that LPub is not a renderer. What you are asking for in this one is a renderer, which is no small change. It could take a *long* time for this one to get done (if it does). Might I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) hi kevin, we've already discussed the following in the past via e-mail, but these features are missing in the list ;-) * mask-rendering or support for transparent background. * preview-window to check the camera-settings * color scaling of (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) OK, I wasn't aware it was in there. However, according to the huge meta-command thread, people have created meta-commands with mixed case and some that aren't case-sensitive. Nobody mentioned there that this was illegal according to the LDraw (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes: <snip> (...) This is already in the LDRAW file spec. All meta statements are required to be in all caps. -Orion (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) I have to disagree with this (nice of you to say it, though :). Ultimately, the community has the final say. Here's my feedback & suggested revisions for version 12. You could've just dropped the old revision numbers. That would have made the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Paul, Because L3P doesn't know anything about buffer exchange or rotation steps, LPub creates a DAT for each step and handles all the rotation and stuff. Is there mechanism in LDLite that will let LPub interact with LDLite through interprocess (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) :-) (...) day about adding support for Buffer Exchange and Rotation Steps, etc. Maybe if LPub supported it, LDLite wouldn't have to make those changes. -Tim (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
Hi All, I've been doing some building lately to recharge my tactile batteries, but LPub and Lsynth have been starting to stur up back-of-the-brain activity. I've gotten so many suggestions (especially from Tim Courtney who emails me almost every day (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New E-mail address
 
Dear fellow LEGO fans, I am sending this message to the groups I regularly read and post to, because since today my E-mail address that I used to post with no longer exists! It was jmolen@globalxs.nl... :-( My new adres will be jmolen@zonnet.nl and (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.inst, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Camera Positioning
 
(...) This document describes a method of scaling to fit a bounding sphere into a viewport, starting somewhere around page 30. (URL) would think you'd have to pick a camera angle first, or fix one of the other variables like the distance to the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Camera Positioning
 
(...) Hi Orion, The law of similar triangles comes to mind...... not that I consider myself much of a mathemetician. Pick an aribitrary camera distance greater than zero and calculate the size of the bounding box projected into a 2D plane (the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) Steve (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Camera Positioning
 
Maybe someone can point me in the right direction... I have an object with a known bounding box, how do I calculate the position of the camera so that the whole object is shown on a screen of known dimentions? In other words, how to I determine the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: The DOS apps (was Re: Backwards Compatibility)
 
Steve Bliss wrote: > Make sure you've installed LDRAW027.EXE -- that should resolve the runtime > 200 problem. > > Steve Ah, now it works! Thanks, Steve! Cheers, --Ryan ryanjf@ifriendly.com (URL) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) ASAP means right now for the hard-to-read-but-rev...ion-marked version: (URL) not going to work on making an easy-to-read version until I've gotten some comments, though. --Travis Cobbs (tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New BFC Spec
 
I have created an updated revision of the BFC spec, available from the following location: (URL) create this file, I started with bfcspecv4.txt (which was actually revision 10), then remarked every line in the file to be revision 10, then made my (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) I will be producing a modified version ASAP that incorporates the various suggestions in this thread. However, it won't be nearly as easy to read as his version is at the moment, since it will have version numbers at the beginning of each (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) Yes, he sent it to me last week. Is there going to be a newer version I should wait for? -Tim (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) I'm betting Orion sent it to you, since I certainly didn't, and he sent me the same file. --Travis Cobbs (tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Backwards Compatibility (Was Calling all Meta-commands)
 
(...) Certified does sound better in that context, and I think certification could be a good thing. We should figure out how best to frame it, but I think it would add to the strength and usefulness of LDraw.org as a central resource for all of (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Backwards Compatibility (Was Calling all Meta-commands)
 
(...) Exactly. -Tim (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) I started creating a page for LDraw.org out of Travis' text file of the BFC spec. Should I wait, since you're adding numbers? The one Travis sent me didn't have numbers in them. -Tim (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) I searched through all my LDraw email archives, with key messages going back to 1999(!), and couldn't find it. So, I emailed Jacob for instructions and will get this done in the next day or so, when he gets that to me. -Tim (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) Don't forget, as per this post ((URL) I'm resetting all the numbers in the current document to 1 prior to making my new changes. --Travis Cobbs (tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Backwards Compatibility (Was Calling all Meta-commands)
 
(...) I agree. I don't think a program can be "compatible" with an organization. It can be "certified" by one, though: LDraw.org-Certified. Of course, this might have stronger implications than LDraw.org-compatible. On the other hand, maybe that's a (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) Ok... I'll throw it on the to-do list to dig up the poll documentation and change it. Lazy me! -Tim (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) not that anyone ever heard of it, but ESQL (IBM language for MQSI) uses double hyphen for comments. That said, if I had to choose between '--' and '//', I'd go with the slashes. oooh - here's an idea. We could change the Ldraw.org poll (which (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Backwards Compatibility (Was Calling all Meta-commands)
 
(...) Sorry, 'LDraw.org-compatible programs'. Which is poor terminology, I think. Steve (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Latest BFC Spec?
 
(...) I never imagined those numbers would be a permanent part of the document. I thought they'd go away once we accepted the BFC standard. But that never actually happened, so the document was never finalized, so the numbers never went away. When (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) Hmm, the sequel to a hyphen... I like hyphen or double hyphen because they contrast more with the surrounding text. I agree with Kevin, anything's better than nothing. Steve (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) Travis, By definition, all the programs have to be able to handle the original unadorned comments of type 0 records. This is a requirement for all 0.27 compliant programs. This means that anything we don't recognize as a meta-command is a (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Calling all Meta-commands
 
(...) Steve, *anything* is better than nothing. Trying to read a DAT/LDR program that has *lots* of comments with interspersed meta-commands is really hard. I've programmed for 30 years, and I've never seen hyphen used as a start of comment. I guess (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Backwards Compatibility (Was Calling all Meta-commands)
 
(...) LDraw compatible, or LDraw.org compatible? ;-) You made a distinction before -- are you using the same metric now as well? Just curious. -Tim (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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