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Re: KDE/new Redhat install (was Re: Has anyone ever been)
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Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:34:07 GMT
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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:18:18 GMT, cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com (Mike Stanley)
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> Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
> Maybe. I doubt I'll be doing Unix stuff at my current employer,
> though. Our main Unix systems seem to be held together with chewing
> gum, lots of hope, and a ton of money. I'm trying to learn what I
> can on my own, but there's only so much time in the day... I guess
> I could put Solaris on a PC at home and do some more, though...
How much of that money is for the "sysadmin's beer fund"?
> > The big problem with MS certs, as told to me, is that they want you to
> > learn to do things the MS way. Which usually differs subtly but
> > significantly from what's in the RFCs.
>
> Yup. Not so good in large multiplatform environments (like the one
> I work in now) but not much of an issue in single platform
> locations, I would imagine.
Yeah, but single platform locations don't exist. Everyone wants on the
'net.
Here's how a countryman of mine put it:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=564921734&fmt=text
Whatever you do, never touch Exchange. Or Lotus Bloats. Or any other
groupware email thing. They're all great steaming piles of dog
excrement.
> Believe me, I know. About 1/3 of any given class I was in were
> students who thought that they would make the magic leap from jobs
> like hardware salesman or jeans maker (Levi factory closed down) to
> system administrator just by taking a few classes, passing a few
> exams, and playing with a cheap PC or two at home. I think most of
That can give you an excellent grounding, though.
> those "paper" MCSE's end up being very disappointed. 'Course, they
If you have a clue, after an MCSE and a pointer to the RFC archives
you should be able to start PFY'ing pretty competently.
Of course, if you have a clue, you don't necessarily need the MCSE for
that. For most clued folks I meet, it's more of a "get-me-in-the-door"
thing.
> talk himself into a sysadmin job that pays almost double what I
> make. In the year+ he's been doing that he's learned a heckuva lot
> - OJT, don't you know.
Orange Juice Traffic?
Oh, wait. OJT. The only way to truly learn to be a sysadmin, or so i
hear.
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> > So, when you buy that house, will you install an AGA?
>
> What's an AGA?
It's a British type of oven + stove.
They have an agency in New York where they sell them ($12.000 for the
two-door, bit more for the 4-door version). Considering the probable
transatlantic shipping costs on these babies (well over a ton of
cast-iron...), that's quite reasonable.
Jasper
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