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(...) Neither can I. I don't think it is 'western' culture thing either, after all if you've already got a culture why would you need to adopt someone else's. If you go back in history then all the 'great civilisations' were either created through (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Recall - Oh heck YES Replace with - The govenator Prop 53 - Yes Prop 54 - Yes as I type this post Davis is conceding this election, score one for the good guys! and shame on you LA Times, your slime campaign failed. I just wanted to post on prop 54, (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gee, that's a fairly pathetic rationale in my view. Is that the way you keep track of your bank account -- instinct? Arnold is worse than business as usual. He is a puppet backed all the way from D.C. to Enron. Didn't you know? Always follow (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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The point to the slight subject change is that one minute into the counting, the networks are already declaring that everything is decided. God, I despise network news: Don't touch that dial - we are gonna skip the story and tell you the (projected, (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Instinct. It's worked many times for me before. Ok, before you hit me with a "Get real!" remark I was just plain sick of the usual politicians. I just wanted to try someone else. (...) I was shown the blank side and so was the guy who asked me (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me too. Recall: Yes Replacement: McClintock -- this election is all about the state economy and he's the only one who has had direct answers to every question about the economy. 53: No. Dumb idea. This would just further tie the hands of any (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't mean to be flip about this very serious issue, but such is the nature of conquest. People of other cultures may not automatically see the advantages of another way of life -- in fact those supposed advantages may be mitigated by (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What does voting "no" have to do with it? What are you trying to say - only those who vote "yes" get to vote for the replacement, or do you really like to see another $40 million spent on a second election to resolve the recall if it is a (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I found this interesting... (URL) not sure I agree with this, viscerally... "The only places where a Western culture has successfully transplanted itself are those where great population pressure and genocidal methods were used to extirpate the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess Kermit was correct after all-- it's not easy being green! And somebody should forward that data to UPS;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This strikes me as weird. It's as if one is able to physically hedge their vote. If one votes for "no" recall, how is it that one is able to cast a hypothetical vote? (...) Hmmm... It has intringe, sex, betrayal, sex, gambling, sex, sex, (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Green Bionicle is "underloved" (1), I hear, so yaay for Peter I guess. 1 - There are always 6 different figures in each of the waves, and each one is a different color... Supposedly Red always sells out first (across all the lines so far, (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 53 - NO 54 - NO Recall - NO Replacement - Peter Camejo, that Green Bionicle lover Hanging chads - NO, first time I ever bothered to check "I Voted" sticker - NO I had headed out to the polls feeling kinda disenfranchised-- no one ever pleaded (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Recall: no. Misuse of the recall procedure. Replace with: Peter Camejo (Green Party, No. 65 on the ballot) 53: No 54: No (...) No substance, all style. Doubt me? Look at how you refer to Arnold. :-) Here's my summation of Things to Come: (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "you've seen one stolen election, you've seen them all" ??? I dunno, that was just a guess (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wishful thinking--only 1 year with Dubya instead of 3... Dave K (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoops! That should be 2000, instead of 2002. What the heck was I thinking? Dave! (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Out of curiosity, what led you to conclude that Arnold was the best qualified candidate to head the world's fifth-largest economy? (...) One reason is that this is a potential violation of voter privacy. Another reason was that this courteous (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I just got my "I Voted" sticker. Well, my vote has been made and I'll pass them along. I would like to hear from the rest of LUGNET's Californians. Recall- YES. Replace with- "The Terminator" Prop 53- YES Prop 54- NO Prop 53 and 54 didn't get all (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No we are talking about legal marriages. That is very much the jurisdiction of the first amendment. (...) The silly notion that Christianity is somehow superior to our government and other religions. (...) Well you were talking about legal (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Have you EVER EVEN READ the HOLY BIBLE, John? I'm just going to cut and paste biblical cites from previous posts in this forum. I mean, why waste too much time on the usual John Neal foolishness? (URL) Sadly, many faiths do suborn the use of (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The ACLU agrees ideologically with Oliver North? -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would add to that the observation that his apology was also an oddly flaccid non-denial denial. He didn't say "I apologize for grabbing these 15+ women, which was wrong of me to do." Instead, he said, "I apologize if I offended anyone," (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not applicable, Mike. We are talking about civil unions here. (...) Really? How so? (...) But don't you see? This is what I am talking about! I am talking about social mores, culture, values. (...) I think you are confused in this assessment. (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As for the threat of terror (imminent or otherwise), this is what I genuinely believe: I have no doubt that if SH had biological, chemical or nuclear WMDs at his disposal, he eventually would have made them available to terrorists such as OBL (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Arnold claims in one breath that he does not deny all the stories about grabbing and immediately continues that "this is not (him)." Well, if he admits he did it, then it is him. What is this fairy tale that it isn't. He wants to imply that (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let it, and let him address each one. I have a feeling that after tomorrow, the issue will become mute (sic), because most of the allegations are beyond the statute of limitations (so at best they would get an apologize which he has already (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A cute answer (heck, you got me to laugh with you!), but it doesn't deal with the substance of the claims. I think we are up to 15 accusers, a number that will no doubt grow. (...) Of course the timing is suspect. Then again, sometimes it (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Go Mike, go!!! A very reasonable and very american approach to the issues raised by John Neal. This is what it should all be about, all of us defending each other's right to liberty in the manner we choose to express it. I bow low to your greater (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This kind of nonsense is precisely why its not worth discussing anything with you. I can't even call it a debate if your replies are going to be this moronic. You don't have any logic behind your position, you just keep asking the same (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If Democrats has sufficient sway in Congress, there would certainly be an independent counsel investigating the run-up to the war (a la Ken Starr/Whitewater), but Republican lock-steppers have resisted any efforts in this regard. Likewise, the (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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snip (...) The first phrase of the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..." (...) I consider myself a Christian and I am sick of hearing this nonsense. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You can link until the cows come home, but it really proves nothing. Nada. The best you can hope for is that Bush believed intelligence that suggested that WMD still existed (assuming that they indeed don't) and he was wrong. Nobody can prove (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Should I be impressed that this candidate likes LEGO, afraid that he likes the wrong kind, or annoyed that this reference is pandering to the audience or ?? (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.mediawatch, FTX)
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..the Sacramento NBC affiliate did short profiles of the major California gubernatorial candidates tonight. The Peter Camejo (Green Party) profile began with Mr. Camejo holding his grandson and saying to him, "You want to talk about Bionicles?" Hmm, (...) (21 years ago, 6-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.mediawatch, FTX)
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(...) See? That's precisely the wrong attitude to take. Speaking for myself, I would very much like to see your future creations and CAD renders. I looked at all the renders in the current thread and enjoyed them very much -- I also happen to be (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(Setting "follow-up"...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(Setting "follow-up"...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Were we reading the same post? I didn't see that in Larry's response at all. We've had "fantasy trains" in .trains before and they were well received. It is very easy to get the wrong impression from one line of text. (...) Yes, and that goes (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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OK, I already stated that I wish I never posted in the first place, and I regret my rant ten-fold now. The train models are not my best work by far. Thus, I'm not really sure why I bothered to mention work I didn't put my best effort into. I think I (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because Lar mentioned the space newsgroup in a possibly disparaging manner and I didn't want to comment on it without also x-posting it to the right newgroup. It seemed the fair thing to do. Otherwise it would have felt like talking about a (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (...) OK, everyone. This wasn't my intent. I didn't want anyone to look bad. I didn't want to push anyone's arguments into another thread to make them seem unimportant. I didn't realize that moving this (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why did this thread get cross posted to .space? The original post was in Trains and CAD. -Grand Admiral (URL) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Study: Misperceptions About Iraq War Contributed to Support For It (URL) The three common mistaken impressions are that: U.S. forces found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There's clear evidence that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein worked closely (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I agree. People are a little too quick to move things over into off-topic without really having a reason for doing so. Anyway, I apologize for thinking it was you, Lar. I didn't follow the thread closely enough to see that it was (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just because you ask this question repetitiously doesn't mean it hasn't been answered already, either directly or by a link to an article somewhere. I have answered this question multiple times in this forum before it was asked by you. And (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So why move it? I did not realise it had been moved till after I responded to the post, had I seen that Tony was trying to move it I would have set it back. I think it was totally inappropriate to move it, actually, and especially in what is a (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So Liberals shouldn't criticize his behavior lest they politically incorrectly "judge" the morays of another culture;-) As for the Young Republican meetings-- I doubt he started attending them before his first million earned;-) (...) The (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, I don't buy it. (...) Precisely point out Bush's "lie" about Iraq. Be prepared to show that he knowingly and deliberately, and also specifically (I want quotations) misinformed. (...) I don't know what to make of the media in (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's get something clear, the British established slavery, not America. The same British who founded (ummm) stole Canada. -->Bruce<-- League of Green-Eyed Devil's Advocates (well, okay, they idiotically kept it, but they ain't my political (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) According to one guy who witnessed one of Arnold's excesses, Arnold said that's how he did it in Austria, so Hollywood has nothing to do with it (in fact, most of these incidents date to his pre-Hollywood period - maybe he learned them at (...) (21 years ago, 5-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Your comment is off-topic in this thread, but perfect for this forum...maybe you could start a thread on slavery. But first read Madison's notes on the convention -- slavery did not easily get a pass. And the Civil War is proof of that fact. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's for a moment assume these women are being 100% honest. The difference between coming forward back then vs. now is maybe the difference of having a bad momentary encounter vs. the bad guy becoming your elected representative. Think about (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) The logic of your political forebearers included slavery. Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yep. Spoke to this already. .Trains is a big place. (...) Larry, I'm sorry for any miscommunication. My wish that you have a good day was sincere, not out of any hidden message that I thought you were grumpy. As it was, I was open about what I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hop-Frog, I moved it, because I didn't think of that, and because it wasn't really about trains. But you're right about appropriate behavior being discussed in the given newsgroup - the reason for my original reply. Thank you for your (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: (snip) (...) Though I do not condone the "groping" of women, I think his behavior in the context of Hollyweird is probably par for the course. What is interesting to me is that these women (some (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course they do. People can do and feel anything they want. Is that what you tell your wife when she is annoyed with you -- that she doesn't have the right to feel as she does? I understand that your claim is that insult was not intended, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I reread my original reply. I didn't see it. I know my intent and I know it wasn't intended. In general, you (as a generic reader) don't have the right not to be insulted by what other people write. But if it came across that way to a lot of (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Do gun laws prevent violence? Health officials don't know (URL) ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) --A sweeping federal review of the nation's gun control laws -- including mandatory waiting periods and bans on certain weapons -- found no proof such measures (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Eeeet izzz trash poh-lo-teecs! Und I vish to ahh-poh-lo-gize to the vemmen I hoff fon-dohld. Sieg Heil, mein Fuhrer! I can valk! Heck, even Ahhhnuld has a Strangelovian two-minded reaction to the charges (and I got to sneak in an oblique (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott: I might be one of the few people that might respond to this, so I will. But in reality this subject is just a sideshow. Sadly, this probably has at least a little to do with the way many Californians are going to vote the way they will next (...) (21 years ago, 4-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I haven't seen this discussed here so I thought I would bring it up. On Wednesday the LA Times launched a huge hit piece against Schwarzenegger, with four negative articles including a front page story about Arnold's alleged indiscressions. It (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Love the sinner, hate the sin. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Too true. Billions down the hole, and the net result of this "cowboy diplomacy" is that everyone hates the U.S. as never before. Wonderful! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If true, I'd expect lots of snarling "conservatives" would have jammed it down our throats by now. It's just a case of wishful thinking (on your part). ;) Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The article stated: "It did not say when or how the smugglers entered Kuwait or when they were arrested." So basically, these are weapons in Kuwait. Yeah, I guess the U.S. is not completely in bed with Kuwait. The rest is speculative as far as (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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No Smoking Gun, No Imminent Threat.... and No Surprise? My personal view on SH before we bombed him was that: He probably did have some form of WoMD. He would use them if threatened. He did not represent an imminent threat to the region or the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) At this point a lot of people are in "don't cry wolf with me any more" mode... I know I am. We know Saddam had WMD at some point, that's not in dispute, he used them on his own people. We know Saddam was a very very bad man, that's not in (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Has anyone else heard of this story? If true, it would be big news IMO-- I wonder why it hasn't been picked up (by conservatives; I know why liberals might want to ignore it;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The bigger question is: does free trade, or a free market, really exist in the first place? My answer is: "No." As a consequence of that, everything can be seen as pandering to a particular interest group. Even if we had a truly and perfectly (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From USA Today: (URL) President Bush (news - web sites) has departed from the Republican Party's deep-seated belief that open markets lead to stronger economies, more jobs and higher living standards. Last year, his shortsighted moves to raise (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why don't they move to Iraq? The government is so small there these days as to be completely nonexistent. Plus, the line about "not to invade, but to restore liberty" would be perfectly in line with the stated goals of the Shrub (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The envelope please. And, the winning state (or losing depending on your outlook) is: Ne Hampshire! Live free or die Libertarian! "Where not here to invade and take over, but to restore liberty," said one spokesperson. In other words: take (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) also, but it's such a beautiful place too. Its one of my favorite states along interstate 80. Anyway, I haven't promised anyone anything -- but if the Libertarian party takes over I might just move there. It won't be worse than Shrub et al (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All hail Governor Bush for coming clean with (URL) this bit> of useful info despite what Cheney was still parroting just days before. And to hear Dubya tell it, he can't understand why a majority of the American people continue to believe that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I like your thinking on this, Lar. I'm with you 100%. Of course, the "powers that be" might have a different view of these ideas. It makes one want to inquire as to their motives, of course. (...) What people? The future consumers of Iraq, you (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From: (URL) Bush administration strongly opposes using loans for the Iraqi reconstruction request." Why shouldn't Iraq pay for this, exactly? Take me through this logic again? "It argues that Iraq's $200 billion debt is already more than it can (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can we debate this? I'm just asking... I mean, yes it's new but is is populair (whatever that is (1) )? Or popular, for that matter? As for Mr. Verbeek, is he saying he's great? Or that his posts tend to grate? or ?? So many questions. 1 - if (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Intimigate" Scandal at the White House (URL) WASHINGTON - September 30 - The Center for American Progress has released the attached is a one-page document detailing ?Intimigate?, the White House?s latest scandal. As the document shows, the White (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Voting Fraud (was Re: Sticking my etc.)
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More on this stuff today... Diebold takes down blackboxvoting.org (URL) This appears to be a public relations gaffe of staggering proportions on Diebold's part. It's not like bunging the terms "Diebold election fraud" into Google brings up only that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think Lugnet ate my expansions on this topic - I got tired of retyping them and just packed it in on this subject. Essentially, I said the same thing as you do above: clubs open to all centered around topics or activities was fine by me: ski (...) (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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visit the new populair lego website ||| |||(URL) Marco Verbeek (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I sort of agree with your view. Surely, a purely social club is a waste of everyone's time at a high school. But, having clubs that form around a topic, like say "Germanic mythology" or "Ethiopian dance," wouldn't be a problem as long as (...) (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is it a Brain F**t, or a Mind F**k? So far, my signs don't seem to be having much of an effect on public opinion in this country. I live on a busy street, and hung out a pair of colorful signs that read: "Enough Stupid Lies" "Impeach Bush" (...) (21 years ago, 29-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So there's a provincial election in a matter of days. I've been following the issues as close as I possibly want, balancing my stress level with that of listening to the leaders yammer. So it comes down to this--I like what Howard Hampton has to (...) (21 years ago, 29-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Is Bush's War in Iraq A "Brain XXXX"? Edit: XXXX word in title censored for Lugnet (URL) "When we put our enlisted men and women in harm's way, it had better count for something, It can't be because some policy wonk back here has a brain XXXX of an (...) (21 years ago, 28-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I am of the opinion that having purchased a license, that they should replace the non-performing media either for free within some reasonable time frame, or at cost. Or, you have the right to make back-up copies. I have utterly no problem in (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I do, generally by installing software on my system that has no business being on there, and often is exceedingly hard to later remove. (...) Yes, I know, but I'd prefer CDA tracks, even if they are rather large. I'd rather burn a exact (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) I am pretty sure I read that the "CD-like disks" can be made into CDs by using a magic marker and coloring in the data track. Theres a couple million bucks of development down the toilet. I know I personally will not buy a CD that I can't (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Tom: I suppose you realize you could just download these two songs, right? The RIAA has specifically targeted uploaders, not downloaders. The theory is that it is possible to have a need, not unlike you own, that might make downloading a song a (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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This is a good question, especially since I am in this situation. Before moving from CA to FL, I tried to get my entire 250+ CD collection burned to MP3s, so I could cram them on an Archos to listen to in the moving truck (they totalled more than (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Will break to Wal-Mart really pay? (URL) Let me make sure I understand this correctly: Here in Colorado, a state that largely deplores welfare, affordable housing assistance and other entitlement programs, the city of Denver wants to give $10 (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: Curse you whomever is doing the DoS attack! double posted--sorry about that... Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bill Maher has rightly identified trickle-down-economics as the rich saying to the poor "We're pissing on you." (...) Robert Reich, who, as a Clinton cabinet member, will no doubt be demonized by Dubya apologists, had some interesting (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nicely stated Larry. There was a discusion earlier differentiating between accidents and homicides--people dying in mining or oil platform accidents is tragic, but is not the same as willfully taking another life in an act of homicide. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
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(...) Nicely stated Larry. There was a discusion earlier differentiating between accidents and homicides--people dying in mining or oil platform accidents is tragic, but is not the same as willfully taking another life in an act of homicide. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Richard: use Bush’s tax cut to buy shares in these companies and live on the dividend. When you spend the income, your unemployed countrymen will get jobs flipping ‘burgers (say) for you! Have you never heard of “trickle-down-economics”?! (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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