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Re: Intellectual Property Question
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Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:32:16 GMT
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Tom:
I suppose you realize you could just download these two songs, right? The RIAA
has specifically targeted uploaders, not downloaders. The theory is that it is
possible to have a need, not unlike you own, that might make downloading a song
a legitimate activity. Of course, hardly anyone could have a legitimate purpose
in uploading the songs to possibly thousands of users.
If you acquire an MP3 of high enough quality you can “uncompress” or “decode”
the song back into a raw audio format. I think that would be enough to support
your stated needs.
FWIW, I don’t think I’ve ever tried copying raw CDA tracks as such. Most
applications want to rip the tracks to wav or to encode them to another file
format. Most cd-burning software will convert wav or MP3 to cda on the fly for
the purpose of burning an audio disk.
Getting back to the theory side of things...
I am pretty sure I have a Chicago’s greatest hits LP on vinyl. Is there really
a legitimate purpose in prohibiting me from downloading the tracks as MP3? Sure,
I could rip them myself -- it’s a bit of a hassle from vinyl but I have done it
for lots of things that will never see distribution as a CD. The point is it
can be done -- so does the Music Industry have a legitimate right to limit me to
an analogue recording only or do I also have the right to a digital copy should
I choose to download or create one?
More and more, I see various industries creeping towards subscription style
services, or even a subscription style service “attitude” without the actual
service. The idea seems to be to make the consumer buy the same material again
and again in different formats.
Backtracking a little here, I can see where the Music Industry would see my
wanting a free copy of a digital recording as unfair when my original copy is
analogue. The digital copy is an added value for someone that purchased the
material recently, and who also paid a premium for that added value.
But what if I already have a digital copy, doesn’t the Music Industry seem to be
suggesting that they have the right to keep making me buy different kinds of
digital copies? Like your situation, Tom -- isn’t the suggestion that since you
didn’t create a backup copy when you had the chance (i.e. when the CDs that have
since become damaged were still in pristine condition), that you are now
forbidden from obtaining such a backup from someone else?
Depending on how DRM is implemented, isn’t the suggestion that you don’t have
the right to convert from one file format to another? I understand that CD-like
disks have just been released to the U.S. market that WILL NOT play on a
computer -- they are specifically designed to fail if an attempt is made to play
them on a computer. Basically, the consumer is cheated in two ways there: one,
they cannot digitally transfer the material to another perhaps more convenient
format; and two, the failure to make the disks PC compatible means there is no
easy way to create a backup. Again, forcing you to buy another copy should this
copy become damaged.
-- Hop-Frog
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| snip (...) I am pretty sure I read that the "CD-like disks" can be made into CDs by using a magic marker and coloring in the data track. Theres a couple million bucks of development down the toilet. I know I personally will not buy a CD that I can't (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Yes, I do, generally by installing software on my system that has no business being on there, and often is exceedingly hard to later remove. (...) Yes, I know, but I'd prefer CDA tracks, even if they are rather large. I'd rather burn a exact (...) (21 years ago, 27-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| This is a good question, especially since I am in this situation. Before moving from CA to FL, I tried to get my entire 250+ CD collection burned to MP3s, so I could cram them on an Archos to listen to in the moving truck (they totalled more than (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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