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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 7 Oct 2003 15:35:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Our God is not the same God of people who murder women and children in His
name. If you call that close-minded, so be it.
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Have you EVER EVEN READ the HOLY BIBLE, John? I’m just going to cut and paste
biblical cites from previous posts in this forum. I mean, why waste too much
time on the usual John Neal foolishness?
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=12591
Sadly, many faiths do suborn the use of violence to an almost
epic scale -- chech out “Joshua” (a.k.a. “The Book of the Conquest”) in the
Old Testament (if you are Christian/Catholic), or The Tanakh (if you are
Jewish):
...of Jericho...
6:21
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman,
young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
...skipping a bit...
10:30
And the LORD delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of
Israel; and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that
were therein; he let none remain in it; but did unto the king thereof as he
did unto the king of Jericho.
10:31
And Joshua passed from Libnah, and all Israel with him, unto Lachish, and
encamped against it, and fought against it:
10:32
And the LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it on the
second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that
were therein, according to all that he had done to Libnah.
10:33
Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and
his people, until he had left him none remaining.
10:34
And from Lachish Joshua passed unto Eglon, and all Israel with him; and they
encamped against it, and fought against it:
10:35
And they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and
all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed that day, according to
all that he had done to Lachish.
10:36
And Joshua went up from Eglon, and all Israel with him, unto Hebron; and
they fought against it:
10:37
And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king
thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he
left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but
destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein.
10:38
And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to Debir; and fought against it:
10:39
And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they
smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls
that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he
did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to
her king.
10:40
So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the
vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but
utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.
10:41
And Joshua smote them from Kadeshbarnea even unto Gaza, and all the country
of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.
10:42
And all these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the
LORD God of Israel fought for Israel.
10:43
And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal.
-- these quotes are from the King James Version of the bible:
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Joshua/index.html
You claimed: “Our God is not the same God of people who murder women and
children in His name.” To which I call BS: your god is PRECISELY a God that
calls for the murder of women and children in His name. Check the quotes,
genius!
The rest of what you wrote also showed numerous factual errors -- not that I
mean the bible is based on fact, but that it would be a factual error to claim
that the God of the Old and New Testament is not a champion of slaying women,
children, and animals. The God of the ancient Tribes of Israel was practically
the neutron bomb of the ancient world! I repeat:
“So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the
vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but
utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.”
...all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.
Yeah, that’s nice...
All you do is spin, spin, spin -- without any regard for prior understanding.
I’m calling you out, right now, as the single person least able to make a
coherent, meaningful statement that I have ever known in ANY context. Stop lying
about things you either don’t know enough about (e.g. your own Xtian faith), or
refuse to admit to your conscious mind (e.g. the appalling history in blood
behind your Xtian faith). Just stop.
You routinely show yourself to be both a bigot and a complete ignoramus. Those
could be taken as baseless insults by almost any other person, but in your case
I think I can mount sufficient evidence from your own statements in this very
forum to show that my claim is demonstrably true.
-- Hop-Frog
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