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  Re: Lego Maniac's Webring?
 
(...) Actually, the plan with the Lego Maniac's Webring is to eventually have themed 'subrings' that operate either as a part of the whole ring or surfers can search categorized sites. So its its separate ring, but it can be in a sense integrated. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lego Maniac's Webring?
 
(...) Cool! I don't see any real reason to join them, though, since they're conceptually different. There are those who are justifiably Lego Maniacs who don't use LDraw (Ed Boxer comes to mind). I'm sure that with a little homework, one could find a (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
Hello! The site is so great! Even if I suspect I can learn the technic skills to do the same job, I am definitively missing the artistic/aestetic touch to reach the quality we can see here. Thanks for doing that, Tim bye jp (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Certain texts are tacky. But some would be very cool. Anything that adds to the image would be good. Steve (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lego Maniac's Webring?
 
(...) Good idea. I created the LDraw Webring, Webring id 'ldraw.' It will be a few days before I have it online though. It will be based out of ldraw.org, but there is a possibility in the future of integrating it with the Lego Maniac's Webring if (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lego Maniac's Webring?
 
(...) Why not create a ldraw.org Webring? Actually, why not do both? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Lego Maniac's Webring?
 
Should I put ldraw.org in the Lego Maniac's Webring? I can have it done in seconds since I'm the ringmaster. Advantages, disadvantages? I don't think ldraw.org is struggling for hits, but still the ring might benefit it (and definitely whoever's (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Cool. BTW - just checked out your OLV - BREATHTAKING MODEL! (...) I would say 200 pixels wide, required. Min height 100, max height 200. .jpg format. No text over image. The image will get a caption and a link to the owner's site (or model of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) I agree! You read my mind. Steve (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) That's what I thought when I read your earlier post. It would be very intriguing to see what images people can create, using LDraw as a base tool, but not limited to that. For example, Terry suggested that no text be allowed over the image. I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
I see I didn't answer Fredrik's questions clearly. I'll try one more time: (...) That means: - The size doesn't really matter. - Neither does the tools (but POV-Ray makes the most impressive images). - And the same with artificially made backdrops (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
Fredrik Glöckner: (...) I certainly do. (...) I would like something that shows off the posibilities with LDraw and related tools. The two important rules are[1]: 1) Include a description of how you made the image. 2) Include the LDraw file with the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) I'm sure there are lots of people who don't post on lugnet.cad.dat.models. Besides, some people probably have a large backcatalogue of models which can be used. Still, once a month sounds good to me, too. That way, it will not impose too much (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Since people use many other tools than just LDraw and l2p/l3p, it is probably not a good idea to demand a _machine_ friendly explanation of the path from DAT file to finished image. It is actually more important that it is _user_ friendly, if (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
John: (...) It should be working now. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
Tim: (...) I would like to have "advisory voting". People get to vote, but whoever is responsible has the final word. (...) Looking at lugnet.cad.dat.models, I would say a month. Only three new models in the last week (and there should be _some_ (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Thank You
 
Count me in if you need any help! I am doing the Dutch translation now. If there is anything more to translate in Dutch, mail me! Good work, again! -- Greetingz... Sjaacko Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
Good! Steady design: simple, yet effective and very nice. If you where Dutch, I would have offered you a job at my company as webdesigner. I am currently very busy with the Dutch translations, of which I am foreman now. About the 2nd August we (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
Terry: (...) I think the most important rule is that the submission should be a LDraw file and instructions for creating the image. That way others can learn from some good examples. 1) LDraw file 2) Arguments for l2p or l3p 3) Modification of the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Cool. Thanks Jacob, Tim. I might do a couple myself. Maybe it would be a good idea to devise a list of rules for submitting images? Max and minimum dimensional size, format, file size, restrict/allow text over the image, that sort of thing? (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
(...) Hip, Hip, Hooray! Excellent work, Tim. You have created a site with a lot of polish and respectability. Outstanding job. Thanks so much for all the hard work, -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
(...) Thanks! (...) I hope so too. We still would like to have a submission form for those programs so people don't have to mess with the intimidating though well-commented template. And the integrated explanation is a good idea too! Integration is (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
Very nice. Clean, crisp, easy to follow. Nice integration with LUGNET. The "getting started" page is the clearest presentation I've seen of how to get LDraw up and running. I suspect (or at least hope) more of the utilities will be submitted (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
Great Job Tim!! and to all those that help you as well. This looks like a super resource. Very profesional looking and at least so far navigating through the site is a breeze and things are easy to find. Keep up the good work. Also thanks go out to (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  [ldraw.org] Thank You
 
I would like to thank the following people on their contributions to the ldraw.org project: First and foremost, the biggest thanks goes to Jacob Sparre Andersen. Jacob donated the server space for ldraw.org and has played a HUGE role behind the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
 
  [ldraw.org] Site Release!
 
I am pleased to announce the ldraw.org website is now online and open to the public! Please visit and enjoy. :) (URL) no means is the site or the project complete. I have done all I can to present the site neat and tidy with placeholders where (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Should we go the voting route and let the visitors choose the model of the week/month from the pile? Or should we do that ourselves and rotate them some? And what should it be, week or month? Week would be more variety, but month would be less (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Yes, good idea, Terry. I think we should go that route. Right now I'm awaiting the delivery of a rendering of a truck for the first image. We can proceed to collect images for this slot at this time. A good 10 or 15 of them would be nice. I (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
Steve: (...) Well, who wants to do the work? I wouldn't mind helping with the infrastructure to limit the amount of work that actually has to be done. - Adding new models to the collection - Showing random models from the collection - "Voting" on (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
Terry: (...) Sounds like a nice idea. I could set something like that up - if somebody just collects and organises the images. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) More feed: It would be interesting to have a pool of similar-sized images that the server could select from to display when a visitor arrives. That way, it would be a different image each time. (sorry for the fractured explanation - what I'm (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) I didn't take a serious look at the site until today. He did a nice job at it and I like reading about the models of the month. Good system he has come up with. About the image, it was good for the page and for a header logo use, but still not (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: for sets that have 2 models listed can we submit only 1?
 
(...) Yes, but in this case, submit the main model - the model that is pictured on the front of the box. Sets that consist of multiple models being built simultaneously like airports with buildings, planes, helicopters, etc should include the entire (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  for sets that have 2 models listed can we submit only 1?
 
for sets that have 2 models listed can we submit only 1? i am thinking of things like the 8880 supercar and the 5571 giant truck, which have 2 different models buildable from the same parts. can we do and submit one, the other one being done later? (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Hey yeah, a daily, weekly, or monthly featured-model thingy could be a lot of fun for people! BTW, have you ever seen Joe Lauher's pages? (URL) did a model-a-month thing a while back for official TLG models (he built them and then took (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Right. What you're saying makes sense 100%. Though buried in the subconsciousness of the viewer, it does play a part in how they will feel about the site and about the software by the model. (...) Hehe :) As you can see, I'm a space-head too. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) WOW! That's cool :) (...) Heh...yeah. (...) No problem :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If someone tells you you're worth your weight in gold, fatten up. (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: what are the rules regarding sets with different set #'s?
 
We'll either need duplicate files or some way of cross-referencing the file by multiple set numbers. The Galaxy Explorer is a case in point: I just saw a post on RTL where someone couldn't find instruction scans on kl.net because they were listed (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Hee hee. Maybe, maybe not. I agree that it would be an incredible challenge, but I'll bet that it's not impossible. :) Have you seen Escher's famous _Metamorphose_II_? Here's a thumbnail of it, broken into five parts because it's one long (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) I'm no psychologist, so I can't back up any of this with scientific evidence, but I just meant that perhaps a model that was so pointy and sharp might be more intimidating to certain types of new people stopping by than a model that was (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Yeah... (...) Good thought, but ldraw.org is not going to have a splash page like is up there now. When it goes live, the main page with all the info will be displayed. something like that would be more suited for a splash page. So I'm looking (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) Heck, as long as it loads quickly and doesn't get in the way, I sure wouldn't mind seeing a POV-rendered image on the www.ldraw.org homepage. Sure, www.ldraw.org isn't www.povray.org, but over time POV-Ray is becoming more and more a part of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) An interesting and valid point. I was thinking povray since it has a much more impressive look to it. I suppose something from LDLite would work. (...) Well, I was meaning 'impressive' in the sense of a well done model that doesn't have to be (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) What's wrong with the model already being used? And why a POV-Ray? This isn't pov-ray.org, it's ldraw.org. To be completely pure, it should be an image generated by LDraw. But an LDLite-sourced image would be very nice, as well. Also, IMO, an (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) The model of the week/month would be nice, but its not high on the priority list right now. We can display one model for a while before implementing a regular featured model. At this time I just want a model to display on the main page. We can (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: what are the rules regarding sets with different set #'s?
 
(...) I would say use the US set number, and add in parenthasees in the header like this: 0 7140 (XXXX) X-Wing Fighter Note: I didn't check the header format when writing this - sorry if I get the header line wrong. But placing the number in (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  what are the rules regarding sets with different set #'s?
 
what are the rules regarding sets with different set #'s in us and outside of us? e.g. aquanauts crystal crawler... (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
(...) HAHAHAHAHA tim your a god! the idea of a model aweek/month is great. about the POVRAY image yes i got the perfect model. as you may, or may not know all my model images are done in povray and i got several model files availible. just one (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  [ldraw.org] Cover Model
 
If someone would like their well-done Povray rendered model displayed on the ldraw.org main page, please let me know. There will be a little paragraph describing LDraw and I feel it is appropriate to include a small image of a rather impressive (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: Storage and Display of OMR Files
 
(...) [...] (...) Nifty-poos. (...) Hmm... it could be more organized nixing the models.sets, but then again the discussion on each subgroup would be pretty minimal that a main group would be almost necessary to keep discussion going. We could of (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: on the word "official" in "OMR"
 
(...) But you sound like one :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Give an airhead email and its the end of the world - three words: forwarded chain letters. Any questions? (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: on the word "official" in "OMR"
 
(...) Sure, feel free to use any or all of it, whatever makes sense. --Todd p.s. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: on the word "official" in "OMR"
 
(...) [...] You hit the nail on the head. May I paste that text into the ldraw.org legal page? And then I'd link to it from the OMR page as well. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Give an airhead email and its the end of the world - three (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  on the word "official" in "OMR"
 
Pardon me if this has come up somewhere already...I just wanna register a suggestion... On any resource that contains the phrase "Official Model Repository" in the context of LEGO sets, I think it would be a good idea to define what "official" (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Storage and Display of OMR Files
 
(...) Ooops, I thought I covered that when I wrote this yesterday about the sets-DB: "Those URLs aren't guaranteed to be the final URLs in the system for sets, but when they move to a better URL nomenclature for sets, there'll be automatic (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Storage and Display of OMR Files
 
(...) Ok, I see. And I can see advantages and disadvantages to that too: Advantages: - Set can be publicly accessible for comments and editing before placed on a site and approved. - Set can be sent to one place and multiple model editors can have (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Storage and Display of OMR Files
 
(...) To add some clarification to the original newsgroup idea, I didn't mean that things like the Lugnet sets-DB would automatically root through the newsgroups and point to any old version of a model that happened to appear in the .models.sets (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Storage and Display of OMR Files
 
I need some pointers and input on how the OMR should display the download pages and also where the files will be stored. I remember when discussions on the OMR first started the general consensus was to use a Lugnet newsgroup to store the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: url for the parts tracker?
 
(...) Tim, Steve is speaking from a very wise standpoint (on many levels). You can never go wrong by offering to host things that people voluntarily contribute. But if people start to get the feeling that there is pressure to contribute or to let go (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) won't (...) in a (...) could be (...) I guess it could work if it is a widely-distributed mockup. If the part number is in the file correctly and in the correct position, no changes would have to be made to that line to get it to work properly (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) That's what I'd say too :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) suggestion. Notice (...) including commentary (...) makes it much (...) comment, it won't (...) correctly place it in a (...) to have to put (...) there could be (...) same as the (...) I think that if it is something like 0 insert piece 2916 (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
I think you guys are missing the point of Tom's excellent suggestion. Notice the "0" in front of the 2916 line. That means he's just including commentary on where the part will go if and when it becomes official. It makes it much easier to add it in (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) set, and if (...) the plain (...) file or in the (...) Submit it the set, (...) hatless? Also, what (...) standard smiley? (...) I'd say forget the hat, and smiling might help brighten up someone's day :) Ryan (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) So, what's the ruling on this? Omit the fig or submit it hatless? Also, what if a face design hasn't been created? Use a blank head or a standard smiley? Jeff (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) Correct. Allowing mockups would cause confusion and inconsistency throughout the repository. Comment out the parts that do not exist and leave the part blank. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) without the ghost (...) and the " 0 " NO. NO MOCK-UPS ARE ALLOWED. It doesn't matter wether or not they are commented or not. We decided to use only pieces that are 'official', parts that everyone has. Ryan (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) ok say you know the part #, and oh say you made a mockup, so (before) (ill use 2916 train front) 1 12 -4 50 10 0 0 -1 0 0 1 0 0 -1 2916.file after 0 PART NOT OFFICIAL / MISSING 0 1 12 -4 50 10 0 0 -1 0 0 1 0 0 -1 2916.file thats my idea? (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
what about for example the ghost??? do we put in a minifig without the ghost shawl??? what about the skelleton? do we put in just the skull? (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) What if an element is missing? Say, a hat for example. Submit it the set, including minifig, sans hat? Jeff (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Software Download Templates
 
Tim, Sorry I haven't tackled the template pages for any of my utilities. I've got just a couple of comments: 1. The author of a utility should not rate the utility. If you want reviews, get other people to do them. Which isn't a bad idea--get a few (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) Umm, the 'm' key changes between normal(default), coarse, and fine. Why don't you go play around with it. It really helps when putting 1x1 tiles on the front of vehicles for headlights. Ryan (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) fine movement?????? what the???? (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) metroliner but (...) a lot of (...) models to be (...) But, there are going to be some that you have to fix, jonathan. There were several models if I remember correctly that you used the "floating element" technique(how is that word supposed (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) i mean that for some of them i basicly made those subfiles which made positioning them easier... (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) that are (...) Explain what you mean by half and half. Also, sets that don't have submodels in the instructions don't requre submodels in the OMR files. (...) Ok, do what you can and submit those. I get the idea you have a lot of sets done in (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
i have several sets without sub models and some with submodels and some that are half and half. some would be a pain in the ass to re-do such as the metroliner but some may be able to be done... (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:199906211334.GA...omm.com... (...) Tim, I think the ideal is to have submodels separate, preferably in a .mpd file. But I think we should accept sets without submodels with the caveat that if (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) No, the entire minifig cannot be omitted. It is part of the set, and if the decorated element does not exist, the author is to use the plain version of that file and attach a comment in the errors.dat file or in the model itself. -Tim Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: some questions about the OMR
 
(...) (URL)2.do you have to have 0 step commands in the file? No. (...) file (...) Yes, you do. (...) Absolutely not. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  some questions about the OMR
 
1.what was aggreed to as the final header format/filename convention? 2.do you have to have 0 step commands in the file? 3.do you have to put sub-models (e.g. the bogies on a train) in a seperate file if you do not want to/have not done so? 4.what (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
i think that if the torso for a minifig or an other important part is not available then the whole minifig and all accessories can be omitted. (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD, the OMR, and Incomplete Parts
 
Tim Courtney: (...) My MPD splitter never overwrites existing files - unless you set some flag I can't remember, so it should be safe. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw and 8.3
 
Steve: (...) No, but "sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk" is not my e-mail address - even though some of my software clams that. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) I agree on all points! I'm glad you finally understood me ;) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) positioned. They (...) a sub-model (...) place because (...) to detract (...) without using (...) you're trying (...) purpose of (...) help in this (...) submodel (to (...) nothing to (...) appears like (...) Yes, you are making more sense (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) You're making a lot more sense now. I understand better what you're trying to say and I agree with where you're coming from. Part of the purpose of the OMR is to provide 3d virtual instructions, so this would help in this case. They should not (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) That makes sense. I think we should continue to follow this reasoning. (...) Sub-models are not only used so that they can be easily positioned. They are used to make following the instructions easier. Inlining a sub-model defeats the purpose (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) I agree here. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
Bram, I think the reason we would have a submodel for that submodel is because it is an official submodel. We would inline it because it is stationary; it can't be moved from where it is. Take a look at a scan of the instructions, it might help to (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) The point is if the submodel does not contain *any* moving parts, why make it a seperate model? Though we do have the available space filename-wise, it does seem kinda silly. But still, either way I guess is about the same thing. -Tim Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) I don't see the point of inlineing any submodels unless they aren't official submodels. If the instructions use a submodel, why inline it? Seems like kind of a waste in making the submodel in the first place... --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD, the OMR, and Incomplete Parts
 
Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:3767a2e5.193694...net.com... (...) Good incentive for people to learn part-making! Modeling the M:Tron line is what got me into doing parts. -John Van (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) But we need to severely minimize the number of incomplete sets. Read Ampi's post. Don't think that we can make anything and everything and put it up there, there must be standards. (...) Yep. (...) No. (...) Read my post on the final file (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) Correct. (...) Good point. I like the readiness system. Should we have it relative to the number of pieces, so you divide the number of parts by the number of parts in the model to get the percentage? Also, you could multiply it by a certain (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
(...) the (...) could (...) Repository. But on (...) errors - (...) large (...) anyways for (...) can strongly (...) Whatever works I guess :) I was thinking of it in a sense that as they are building the model and come across an unmade patterned (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD, the OMR, and Incomplete Parts
 
(...) OK. You're going to have some funny-looking models, with all those missing parts. Steve (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Model Creation/Submission Rules
 
Tim Courtney wrote in message <199906152252.PAA294...mm.com>... (...) decorated (...) unavailable (...) errors (...) My comments: If an OMR submission is not complete i.e. elements are missing, (even these are decorated elements, minifig (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Help Still Needed
 
Tim Courtney schrieb: (...) if you like, I can also format my L2P/LGEO Tutorial to be included to ldraw.org. (...) I'll do what I can. But even as a student, i have a summer course, I have a job, and I have LGEO which eats a lot of my time, along (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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