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In lugnet.cad.dev, Fredrik Glöckner wrote:
> "Pat Mahoney" <patmahoney@gmx.net> writes:
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> > It could probably be argued that since the parts represent physical
> > things, they [the data in the library] are just "discovered"
> > measurements of empirical data. They are not "created" and therefore
> > not copyrightable.
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> This is true, however the creation of parts is not merely a mechanical
> process -- the author does actually go through a creative process to
> model a part. This is because the author has to choose which details
> to model and which primitives to use.
This is a good point, and I agree with it. I don't know if it has anything
to do with copyright or not.
> So I would say that most LDrawn parts, except the most basic ones, are
> indeed copyrightable.
As I understand it (and IANAL), 'copyright' applies to the expression of
ideas. So you can hold copyright on a file, which prevents others from
duplicating that file (with various allowances and restrictions). But they
are free to use the ideas expressed in that file.
When it comes down to it, the LEGO Company holds the IP rights to all these
measurements and patterns and ideas. We part authors have *no* right to
any of these numbers. We can and do have copyright on their expression, in
the part files we create.
Steve
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| (...) I think we have a little latitude, since TYCO, MegaBloks, Block-Men, and others have produced actual bricks of nearly identical dimensions as LEGO. It seems to me that if an actual product can be produced with such close similarity, a virtual (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| (...) This is true, however the creation of parts is not merely a mechanical process -- the author does actually go through a creative process to model a part. This is because the author has to choose which details to model and which primitives to (...) (24 years ago, 23-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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