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  Re: In dev: new ldconfig.ldr file
 
(...) Ewww! Who picked the yucky edge colors? I mean, black edges are fine for *printed* instructions, but in my personal opinion they're not nearly bright and cheerful enough for on screen modeling. :-< And I'm fairly certain that 9 out of 10 focus (...) (20 years ago, 9-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  In dev: new ldconfig.ldr file
 
Since the LSC has come to agreement on a 1.0 standard for the !COLOUR meta-statement, I've prepared a new version of the ldconfig.ldr file. The new file has been converted to use the !COLOUR statement in place of LDLite's COLOR statement. Besided (...) (20 years ago, 9-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) have made it possible to run a multiplayer session and now is possible: - to chat - move around spots and the other playes can see a message saying your location in game , for now in text but later i will make it so that we see us as lego (...) (20 years ago, 7-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) You're welcome. And thanks for keeping the contests going. They really are appreciated. --Travis (20 years ago, 7-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) Thanks for the heads up. I fixed this problem; you should now be able to vote. -Orion (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) This doesn't seem to be working. When I try to go to the voting page from the ldraw.org main page, it tells me, "[ Incorrect User ID or Password, or your account has been disabled/expired. ]". When I click on the My Account link, it happily (...) (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
Congratulations to the winners of the July Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Jorgen Andersson, SJ Class Rc4 Locomotive> (URL) SOTM, John Haynes, Missle Launce> The voting for the August Model of the Month and Scene of the Month contests (...) (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce, FTX)
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) -Wayne (20 years ago, 4-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) It's listed. It's on the Specifications page under the Standards heading with the title of "LDraw Language Extension for Clipping (BFC)". Here's a direct link: (URL) (20 years ago, 4-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) Alll: Could somebody please tell me where the BFC documentation is? I've read the specifications at LDraw.Org and I see no mention of it. -Wayne (20 years ago, 4-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
I made a screenshot of the gui for the game I need help as I don't know how to do it most of it mainly the internet parts (URL) (20 years ago, 3-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) Some part authors have been making major advances in getting the official library BFC compliant - notably Guy Vivan has been submitting BFCed files almost daily in recent months. These revised parts are in the Parts Tracker waiting for review. (...) (20 years ago, 3-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) I'll be supporting it in the next major LDView version (3.0). I really don't have an estimated completion date for this at the moment, but I at least hope to have it out before the end of the year. There could be minor LDView updates before (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Status of BFC
 
(...) Yes it will... Once all the parts in the library are made BFC complient. (...) Since it's not full implemented library wide, most tools haven't been able to take full advantage of the benefit of consistant winding. POV-Ray is a ray tracer as (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Status of BFC
 
Hi there. I just found this about BFC. As I understand it, it's intended to be used to reduce the amount of polygons etc. in the modell that is renderd, in some way? If I've understood this correctly, is thisthen used in any current tools for (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) I tend to agree with your thought, and I'm going to switch the script over to a flat-list model. Although I think the hierarchy of release -> distr type -> file format makes the most sense; and (somewhat) addresses your earlier question about (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) I actually considered that when you made your original post. However, there are actually multiple different perfectly valid heirarchies, and for this reason I think the flat list is better overall. Here's an example with a different (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Looking at this some more... The script currently returns XML with 3 lists of distribution files: BASE - file ZIP - file ARJ COMPLETE - file ZIP - file ARJ UPDATE - file ZIP - file ARJ - file ZIP - file ARJ - file ZIP ... It could be argued (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Thanks, Chris! I'll add this shortly. Steve (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Licensing Update
 
(...) As long as the authors realise that it's not just ldraw.org getting the rights (it's the public as well). (...) I think having these notes available to people as they upload their parts is a good idea. Sort of like 'This is the license your (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) In XML::Simple the root element name is controlled by the RootName option (RootName => 'string') (URL)_'string'_#_out_-_handy Chris (20 years ago, 1-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) There's no significance, AFAIK. The Perl module, XML::Simple, wraps the <opt> tag around everything automatically. I scanned the docs, but didn't see how to control it. Steve (20 years ago, 31-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) I'm not really up on XML, but it looks fine to me. I do have a question, though. Is there some significance that I am missing to naming the root element "opt"? --Travis Cobbs (20 years ago, 31-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) OK, the URL is still temporary, but the script should be more-or-less done. Have at it, look for deficiencies, bugs, etc. If you don't remember the options, try adding ?help=1 to the url. I haven't thought very hard about the XML format -- if (...) (20 years ago, 31-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Yeah, but I was thinking more for programs that were developed to support one dataset, and couldn't cope with a different model for distribution files. I know, I know -- require the coders to work more intelligently. ;) Steve (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Pft. Make ptrelease support a library version field, which would be 1 for the current lib, and 2 for the new one. :) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) That's one. :) (...) Michael had asked for that awhile ago. (...) Good point, I hadn't thought of that. (...) Hmmm, what *is* up with those dates? I'll go fix'em. (...) Yeah, I dunno. We certainly could go create ZIPs for those old updates. (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Contrubter Agreement v4
 
The intent of the CA has changed. Please read the following poat for explanation: (URL) LDraw.org Steering Committee -*-*-*- Parts Library Contributor Agreement ---...--- Version: 4 (25-Jul-04) Submission Guidelines ---...--- By submitting work (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Licensing Update
 
For those following along, here's a link to previous discussion: (URL) carefully considering everyone's inputs and concerns we have decided to pursue an approach that uses only a user license as the licensing mechanism. However we still feel the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I'm terrible at reading legalese, but I do know that the Disney company has the copyright to all the characters created by Mr. Disney, even though he has been dead for a very long time. This suggests that yes, copyrights in the US and in other (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) Ok, I'll try to fix that in CVS. Meanwhile, what does it print in the console window when it starts up? I like to track the opengl driver developments in the various linux distributions. (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) Yes, now it opens in the right directory. (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Problems accessing ldraw.org
 
Hi Everyone! Been a long time since I've been on. I keep getting the following error when trying to access www.ldraw.org: Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /usr/www/users/peero...ql.inc.php on line 170 (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) That's what I thought. Try commenting the call to platform_sethome() in main.c and rebuilding. Maybe that'll fix it. (...) I agree. This was a quick hack to appease those icon clicking Mac users until the LDRAW.INI search settings are (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) My home directory. Acctually, I think it's perhaps better to start it from the current directory, instead of the home directory. Maybe it's just me, but I usually start programs from other directories, and the files I want to use are often in (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) Should I make a "somewhat newer stuff" section? :^) (...) That's odd. I may have broken it with my recent tinkering. I think I was trying to make it look in the home directory if it didn't see anything like a dat file on the command line. I (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
It didn't work with 1.0.7 but the daily-CVS version worked! In the webbpage, the lines about the daily CVS should perhaps not be in the section "somewhat older stuff" ;-) It works fine with the l3 parser. But it does not show any thing if I do (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
I like it. One other change you didn't mention is the addition of the BASE downloads. That's also very nice, because it allows an app to bootstrap itself completely, without requiring the user to first install LDraw. (Having said that, I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
(...) I think this means I need to get an up to date linux box so I can try to resolve the incompatibilities with the newer hardware accelerated opengl drivers and the software rendering offscreen osmesa driver. What version of ldglite is this? 1.0 (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
Hey all (interested parties), Please take a look at (URL) let me know what you think. This is a temporary script and URL. Please don't think this is the final configuration. I'm working on a (more) final version, hopefully it will be ready before (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  cant compile ldglite in gentoo linux
 
Hello. I'm trying to compile ldglite in my gentoo linux machine. Here is what happens. I give the command: make -f makefile.linux And after some compiling I get: gcc -g -DUNIX -DUSE_OPENGL -DUSE_L3_PARSER -DUSE_BMP8 -DNEED_MIN_MAX -DUSE_PNG (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) GREAT :), Ok I explain again , to undestand u can go to www.4dimensions.org and and play the 4D game or let me try to explain again. ok you will see a drawing of the room u are in so u don't need to imagen it but if u are with other players or (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
Hello. Yes, I like your idea, but it's hard to imagine what exactly you want it to look like. Please make drawings of your ideas so it is easier to get the idea. Then I have some questions: When do you want this game to go into production? How much (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
OK I think I have a better idea still is the same but we could do it Is like doing a chat room ok the idea is based on MUD games text based games but the diferences are we will use graphics to show the static elements like (buildings, minfigs that (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Actually, that's GMT -5. --Travis Cobbs (20 years ago, 24-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) [snip] According to the following document published by the US Copyright Office: (URL) The relevant parts are: Any or all of the copyright owner's exclusive rights or any subdivision of those rights may be transferred, but the transfer of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Anders, This is my fault. The poll module that we use opens and closes the polls automatically based on the dates and times inputted. Once the poll is opened, these the date/time values cannot be changed. I misinformed Tim that the poll would (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) I had nothing to do with the election (other than being a candidate), but I'd like to point out that when I see time given as a four-digit number without a colon, I know it is military time. Consequently 0800 is 8:00AM. Is this a US-only (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Enhancement to Parts Tracker review mechanism
 
it (URL) works!> (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
Note: I am from the U.S., so I am speaking about U.S. copyright law. Note IANAL, but as a graphic designer, copyright is a very important issue to me. The 1995 Artist's and Graphic Designer's Market (Edited by Mary Cox, Cincinnatti: Writer's Digest (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Yes, the CA requires this too. (...) No, that is covered by the modification clauses in the CCAL and CCSA licenses (...) Yes, if you wish to change the license, you have to ask. The daunting task of asking all authors is ahead, regardless of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Enhancement to Parts Tracker review mechanism
 
Until now ldraw.org members with only "Submitter" privileges, have had no ability within the Parts Tracker to respond to comments or Hold votes posted by reviewers. This has now been resolved. The submitter of the most recent edition of a file on (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(This post is resent, as I had a future date (2007!) on my computer the last time, and it seems that lugnet waits until that date to publish...) (...) chance), but a one week long voting period during summer vacations is rather short, especially (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Not all that great. Paul McCartney still performs his songs in concert. He still records old beatles songs from time to time, and sells those. Do you think he could do that if he had no rights in his work? No, Michael Jackson bought certain (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) No, actually, you are completly wrong. You cannot buy a "copyright." This is something that is created when a piece of intellectual property is created. The only exception to this is a work for hire, which you could think of as buying a (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I believe he only bought the *publishing* rights, not the copyright. But that's not really relevant to the Ldraw discussion, so I've Futted to debate. ROSCO (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) A great example of this is the Beatles library, which Michael Jackson bought at one point. (...) We have something along those lines in the US, but I think it's restricted solely to the requirement that you give credit where it's due. They (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) [snip] (...) Your statement is false. In the United States, copyrights are a form of intellectual property that can be bought and sold like any other form of property. In the United States, once the copyright has been transferred, the original (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2nd LSC: Election Results
 
(...) Let me the first to congratulate Lars and Tore. I look forward to working with you. Also, a big thank you to Kevin Clague and Michael Lachmann. These two were excellent comembers and I'm sad to see them go. -Orion P.S. Thanks to Tim for (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) If the parts authors are agreeing to liscence their parts to LDraw using this, then you may have a point in the sub-liscence section. However, my understanding is that the LDraw authors are giving liscence by using the CA. The creative commons (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Two things here are wrong: 1) copyrights can be transferred. they can be assigned or liscenced, but the original copyright holder is always the copyright holder. when people sign away thier copyrights, they are typically signing a liscence (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) (disclosure: I am not a lawyer. These are just the opinions of a semi-logical mind.) From reading the document, it appears as though the CA gives LDraw the authority to release the parts at all. LDraw has no formal agreement (e.g. a written (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2nd LSC: Election Results
 
The second LSC vote has terminated. The 2004-2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee is: Jacob Sparre Andersen Steve Bliss Tore Eriksson Lars Hassing Orion Pobursky There were a total of 16 respondents. -Tim (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I'm not really sure what the CA says at this point in time. I was basing my statement off of the "Moving the LIcense Forward" message that Tim posted. (URL) In short, Tim stated that the both a CCAL (Createive Commons Attribution License) and (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) They are? The proposed CA doesn't say that, and that's not (necessarily) its intent. The CA is about the author granting LDraw.org a distribution license, along with further protections. Now, maybe that's what we *should* be talking about -- (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Yes, that would be me. I had a messed up bug in my HTTP download code that took me a long time to track down. (Note that the bug didn't cause the unusally large number of downloads of the file; tracking down the bug did.) In general, I'm not a (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Well, I think both would be appropriate. At this point, I haven't decided if I want to track down an open source unzip library to unzip the zip files, or just execute the other ones directly from LDView. But from the standpoint of the file (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I honestly think that the CA immediately violates the CCAL (Creative Commons Attribution License) section 4a and is, thus, intrinsically unenforcable due to section 7a. Please read my other response to Orion the more complete response. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Orion: I'm not a lawyer, but I'll give you my opinion for what it is worth... In my opinion, the problem is that LDraw.Org has no legal authority to change a part license unless it owns the copyright to the part. Here is the relevant verbiage (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I am not quite sure that is true (although I can argue for it in terms of Danish contract law). (...) It depends (the usual answer, when you start discussing legal problems). The problem I can see with the CA is related to the way it gives (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) You make some very good points. I do have one question though: Isn't getting the Author to agree to the change procedure the same as them giving to consent to change? In other words, I give permission to change the license if the follow (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Orion: The Creative Commons Attribution License (CCAL) is irrevocable (read section 7.) You can not lose a part that has been released under CCAL. The original author is free to stop distributing the original work (in this case a part), but (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) Do you want sizes for the ZIP files or the ARJ-format EXEs? Steve (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
(...) I always thought it should emit XML, which would make it really easy to add more info (like what you're suggesting) without affecting backwards compatibility. Maybe it's not too late to do that. From looking at the logs from the last few days, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Request change to ptreleases.cgi
 
I have a request for a change to be made to the ptreleases.cgi script that keeps track of all parts updates. Unfortunately, if anyone has actually implemented support for automatic updates using this script, my suggested change might not be (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) wow nice, is sort of my idea but everything rendered with pov-ray. Who make it? and how? (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) Well something easy to use I was thinking. (...) 2d = 2 dimensions like the game diablo If possible or like GTA 1 top view. (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
Would it look sumwhat like this? (URL) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) The CA really isn't a license in the traditional since. It's intended to be a codification of the current way we run acceptance of contributions (i.e. the status quo in words) with a little explanitory text thrown in and a procedure for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) It is always best to start it out working on all platforms. There are several code libraries that can be used that are multiplatform. I think the most popluar is SDL (libsdl). If you used something Microsoft/Apple proprietary, like (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
I've been away the past week, hence my lack of contribution until now... What problem does the CA solve? Since all of the parts are individually released under a creative commons attribution license, there is nothing to prevent LDraw.Org (or me for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
Here's a link to Version 2 and the follow on discussion: (URL) version 3 of the CA. Again, if you have criticism, please also offer a solution if warrented. Changes: - Got rid of the "No Response" option. This is now incorporated into the text of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
(...) As far as I know this are accessible to everyone, from the lowest cost pass on up. -Orion (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
(...) Cool, do you know if either of these sessions are accessable with the "Exhibits Plus" registrations? I'd like to save a few hundred bucks :) Take care, Gary (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
 
  LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
LDraw.org will host two back-to-back Birds of a Feather sessions at (URL) SIGGRAPH 2004> this year. Last year was LDraw.org's first year participating in SIGGRAPH. LDraw activities included an activity area at a LEGO fan booth and an introductory (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
(...) a space colonization game. no pre-built model, everyone has to build his models from hard earned bricks. some play the Exploriens trying to expand and unreveal E.T. secrets, other play UFOs trying to hide and conquer by converting their (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I have an idea . What if we make a game
 
I was thinking since I started to like the game Diablo and other RPG for their great features. Why don't we do a game ? Not just a single player game that has a start and an end but something like an MMORPG well if is possible online if not why not (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) I'd like a no-cost restriction. In other words, anything covered can be distributed for free. This doesn't mean you can't charge, it just means that you don't have to charge. Or maybe all this is implied by the above? Do we need to explicitly (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Yes, you're right, a combo of 1 & 2 should cover 3. When I was trimming so much out of your license I should have been more careful in adding bits :) Can anyone think of anything that ought to be in 'Base Level' of rights ? Peter (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) <snip> I like the rest of your comments so I've snipped them out. I do have a qustion on the below. (...) Isn't 3 redundant and cover by the 1? -Orion (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
Here is my take on this second version of the license Peter (...) And you've changed the first EndUser license from Creative Commons Share Alike License [1] to Creative Commons Attribute License [2] I presume this was because of the ShareAlike (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Blender/LDraw work for SIGGRAPH
 
I'm happy to see people talking a bit about Blender and LDraw here. I've been in touch with Ton Roosendaal of the Blender community for a few weeks now, we're planning to get together at SIGGRAPH, attend each other's BOF sessions, and talk about how (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.events, FTX)
 
  Re: Variants of 4.5v / 12v train motors
 
(...) I checked my motors again, only one per type (I didn't want to dismantle all my locomotives that use the motors). Here are my measurement results: x570c01 (blue): Outer plug diameter: 5 mm Inner plug diameter: 2.1 mm Plug height: 2.1 mm (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Blender LDraw support
 
(...) Part detection is problematic due to changes over time in the library. For reference, LDView uses the following to identify parts: File is in the Parts directory, and isn't a descendent of any other parts at the time the file is loaded (sub (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
 
(...) Directory separators were added in DOS 2, which accepted both / and \ for that purpose. The feature was imitated from Unix. At the time, there also appeared a config.sys setting for *switch* character, which would default to / but could be set (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Variants of 4.5v / 12v train motors
 
(...) Would you be able to take a critical look at the sizes of the connector studs and the holes in them. There is a suggestion that these differ between the versions designed to work with the old Blue 2-pin connectors ((URL) those which fit the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Thanks! Maybe even crosslink, with the first post in the continued tree pointing (with an explicit label) back to the root of the previous tree too. (...) Yes! (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Very good idea! (...) And it helps future readers when the linkage is spelled out explicitly. Steve (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2003-2004 LSC Annual Report
 
(...) (snip) (...) I'd like to personally thank the 2003-2004 LDraw.org Standards Committee for their hard work over the last year on behalf of the community. I am sure I am not speaking just for myself when I say that it is appreciated! (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) I wish 100 was a user selectable option, or an option by group or something. But I don't know enough server internals to know if that's feasible. (...) One of the primary ways that I do LUGNET research (and the way I used to do the research on (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)


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