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All, I've been up most of the night tonight recoding and retesting the code on the server which displays lists of messages, in particular the root home page (URL), which gives a top-level overview of current activity in the system. Recent off-topic (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce)
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(...) discussions. (...) I’d argue that the problem with the admin groups is that there is too little participation on the discussions there by the general LUGNet masses. Debates tend to be dominated, normally, by the “usual suspects”. Anything (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) [snip] Hello Todd, I have a similar problem: It is rather difficult to find the messages from Brad Justus between the very many reactions. Would it be feasable to copy his VIM's (Very Importand Messages) to a special area ? Greetings, Manfred (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) He needs his own group. Every time he makes a pronouncement it cloggs the system up for days. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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I think moving off-topic and admin was the right thing to do (can you have an alternate version of the main page, not the default, that has them as well, or is that too much code) However I question moving market.auction if market.bst wasn't moved, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ditto. (...) Ditto. (...) Ditto. Julie (...) recent (...) discussions. (...) "hides" (...) lugnet.admin.general, (...) different (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Todd, Thank you for moving on this so quickly (once it became clear that it was a serious problem). Steve (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Replying to several messages at once... (...) So you want *more* people to post on admin issues? Seems like that would increase the noise, not improve the situation. (...) I'd say "pot, kettle, black" but I'm about as guilty as the next guy... (...) (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's certainly not a problem at all. The admin groups exist at all because it's better to have things out in the open for people who care, than to have them be completely private. People who care what goes on, will participate. People who (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Aren't these pretty easy to find simply by clicking on the root node of a thread? They've also always shown up on the "Spotlight" page, (URL) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I know what you mean about .jambalaya posts being about fun and community, but, aren't 95% of the messages just noise like "please add me to the list for this box, thanks"? Actually, no one complained about .auction and .jambalaya directly as (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: I like this alot. Especially filtering off-topic and test. Suggestion: How about having an alternate "complete/old style" page linked from the homepage and nuke the annoying "Not Shown" messages? KL (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I was just about to suggest this but I see Kevin beat me to it. <click> "Me too!" J (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm thinking that makes sense. Doing it this way, the definition of what gets cut from the main system is "not lego-related". .admin is meta, and OT is out by definition of OT. OTOH, I think it would be defensible (from a practical POV) to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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<snip> (...) Like you said it isn't perfect. I definitly like the off-topic stuff hidden and I guess the admin stuff too even though I do like to read those sometimes it will just require an extra click on my part. I think I have mixed feelings on (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Maybe it's just a coincidence - but for most of the times that I've looked at the front page today, it tells me more about what isn't being shown, than what is. I'd prefer to see at least four messages all of the time, with perhaps the 'not (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh great - I just pushed it over the edge - what was 3 not shown is now 4 not shown :( I think it's a good idea, but the way it is just now, you have to hit one of the 'show me more' before you see what's going on, or what's going on but (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Um, ditto. :-, (...) But I'm not so sure if these will work, at least not on a scale that affects everyone. In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: (...) If the .off-topic.* and .admin.* messages are unpalatable for "commoners", then (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) his (...) That is a quick way to find a singe one of his postings. but when I wanded to back-track his previous ones, I had to do a lot of "stepping". (Unless there is someting obvious that I overlooked ?) (...) I'm a very irregular reader, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) "They" == the messages, not the "commoners". The more people, the merrier. "Commoners" is such a yucky term also. How about "newbies". Or am I just being elitist? Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yah. A smaller font would go a long way towards making it less jarring, but I suspect that the best (as in 'least jarring') solution would be to have the main page (and derivatives thereof) actually showing the number of messages it claims to. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:<Fr5sEC.L2t@lugnet.com>... (...) tree: (...) little (...) because (...) The problem is, in my opinion, not enough people care. <snippped> (...) Self Restraint (...) please (...) outside (...) (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I dunno, I can see .off-topic.pun getting pretty annoying, and .off-topic.test being altogether worthless...? --Todd (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I wish that were easier to do. To do that would mean ripping the guts out of the insides instead of just the top. Easy to code, actually, but much harder to code for both viewing possibilities (shown and not-shown). It wasn't a design criteria (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) Much better by the way. I think that is what was bothering me before. It's not nearly as bothersome now. Before the screen was screaming at me that it was hideing messages. Thanks for fixing (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Everyone is welcome. And BTW, it was a long-time regular who said he'd had it. (...) I think it's great too, and I would hate to see people feel less comfortable having discussions like that. But since this place is primarily for LEGO stuff, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ah. I see. Hmm. Well, the .debate group doesn't really exist to "invite" debates but rather to have a place to deflect them to, because they always seem to come up in any sufficiently large online newsgroup or mailing list situation. OTOH, (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Sorry 'bout that. That was a total accident -- never was supposed to be that big. I forgot the SIZE="-2" attribute in the <FONT> tag and didn't test properly. (...) Wouldda loved to've been able to do that quickly, but that'd require some (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) immediate). Actually, I was surprised by how much of a difference the font size made. Rather than ripping up the guts and rearranging them to allow article hiding (unless you see a need for it?) - You mentioned the possibility of a cookie in (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Are we on the same page? Yes, you suggested something involving bowdlerisation, but what you suggested was that auctions be allowed in theme discussion groups and subsequently that everyone reading those discussion groups be required to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wait. I'm on crack. It sometimes seems like a year, but the homepage with coalesced groups has only been up since early last May, IIRC. Anyway, it had been suggested in the past, but didn't reach critical mass right away. --Todd (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Maybe we can come up with some ways to attract more people who care (and who don't want to come just to stir up mud). --Todd (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yah -- here's to looking for that better solution! (...) That would be awesome. Hopefully, such a system might be expanded upon in the future to arbitrarily block of ther groups; I'm not so hot on seeing messages from .belleville for example. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's fair. I've been on muscle relaxants for the past two days; I'm not sure if my posts have been entirely coherent (not that they would be anyway :-). (...) The decision for the change completely blindsided me. The recent (yesterday's) (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ya, it was pretty quick. Kind of like a thunderclap. :) It was 10% kneejerk and 90% "Oh my god, look what has happened, as warned. X and Y and Z (people) were right all along!" (I think JoshuaD was the first person to point out the potential (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes! That's what's really annoying. Even with the smaller font, not having four messages on the front page is bad bad bad. Actually I'd like to see 10 messages on the home page, but four is fine as long as the number is FIXED, not variable. (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, you got me there. Although it was fun to test-post those part-references, and start a test-thread of excitement. But .off-topic.clone-brands is at least tangentially lego-related (although not LEGO-related), and off-topic.fun tends to add (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Scott, Give it up! I've been watching this thread for some time and frankly I'm glad Todd added the Auction and Admin filter to the main page. Your incessant whining and pestering is getting very hard to tolerate and I'm glad to have to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6ABv.1MA@lugnet.com... (...) from (...) reduces (...) who (...) I have been reading all the messages in this group since I started to browse LUGNET (since october '99) Yet I haven't really (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6974.KAB@lugnet.com... (...) suggested (...) Pre-auction anouncments (...) heard!) I said fitering would be easy. I also said filtering, via a prefercences, _could_ be a option. But that is (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm gonna haveta "me too" on this. I am a potential buyer in some of these auctions. I am not so dense or clueless that I would give up looking for an auction if the notices aren't thrown in my face. As such, I expect the sellers in these (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Frank Buiting <frank.buiting@infopulse.nl> wrote in message news:Fr6Dt6.Luu@lugnet.com... (...) browse (...) people (...) comes (...) so (...) This may be the problem. I feel new here too. But I'd like to think my opinion is just as important as a (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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<snipped> (...) glad (...) have to (...) refresh. (...) This is not an issue with me any longer. My 1st post in this thread stated that the .acition change does not bother me - or at least it should have: (URL) I read them to see (...) I (...) This (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Scott & Frank, what do you think about separating out some of the functions of .admin.general? (Read: Do you think less experienced users would feel more comfortable in .admin.general if some of the more "hard core" functions were moved out to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6FG4.CGt@lugnet.com... (...) me, (...) feeling, (...) all (...) functions of (...) more (...) were (...) long (...) enough (...) out (...) I am not all that sure what you mean. I suppose you (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Much better than .admin.news. I suspect many people would read that as being "news about .admin" - that would be my first guess even though I do use a newsreader and have been reading newsgroups for years. Kevin (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's sort of odd how with the hidden messages, four message blurbs don't always show up... --Bram (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'll see if I can fix that. It interprets ?n=X,-Y as "display messages xxx through X-Y+1 inclusive" rather than as "display Y messages, counting downards, starting at X." They were always the same before, but not now. --Todd (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ^^^ paffhgh. That should say "X through X-Y+1 inclusive"... --Todd (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This is A Bad Thing (tm) - everyone should be made aware of how important their opinions and thoughts are.. (...) Pffffh.. I'm pretty inexperienced! Yep - I think you're right that it does have a bit of a different aura to it, I guess I never (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Uh-oh. Larry the Libertarian has just been "dittoed"! ;) Rob +---...---+ | Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com | | (URL) | | (URL) | +---...---+ (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hey. That's NIFTY. Todd, can you in your copious free time collect together some of the undocumented (or not documented in a standard place) stuff and put it all in one place? Some of the different ways to look at groups by item count (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) And not just once, either! Glad it's not just me that feels this way. (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks. And if it doesn't work out, banish the whole .market hierarchy, not just .auction and .jambalaya... (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Here's a kludgy suggestion which can reduce, but not eliminate, the jarring "missing" messages. I surmise you are fetching the most recent 4 messages and then supresssing when required. Fetch more. Stack the fails and take the first 4 that pass. If (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Has it? I think one large thread here probably belonged there.. meanwhile the work of the council to get itself organized seems stuck. Frank keeps posting great summations and ideas and we're not running with the ball. (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm. Well, in the great usenet tradition of "if you agree with it, don't post", we probably have consensus that Frank's ideas are good (but I'll have to go hunt and confirm, for myself). My questions (mostly for Todd) are: Have you got the (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.council)
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(...) Yes, I agree it's all about fun and sharing, and I'd love to participate this kind of things but it is fun for only for the participants. Anyway, it's not a big issue anyway..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't consider the "noise" posts as noise at all, providing that they are on their own places. Selçuk (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think the best thing that happened along these lines is the "admin.council" group. The "council" really has the 'old-timers' feel to it. Issues dealing with LUGNET users are better to be decided by more experienced members of the community. (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) people (...) I (...) clearer (...) is (...) to (...) Thanks for this effort. It looks good. I think it is all too easy for issues to be lost in large threads. This sort of page would help this not to be the case. Scott A (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yup agreed, I may be a relative newbie to LUGNET, I'm present on the Internet since '93. A admin.newsclients group attracts post about 'how to configure Outlook/TIN' or similar. While I thought we're looking for a newsgroup to discuss (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just a thought: Todd, I don't know how LUGNET codewise is implemented, but I assume you have an user-database somewhere (to validate posting-priveleges and to store subscribed mailinglists etc.) At our company I implemented our Intranet, it's (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Todd, How open are you towards receiving coding help from the community? I feel that I'd be less useful in helping develop policy, but I can do quite a bit in implementation. Is LUGNET modular enough to allow many hands in the code? Cheers, - (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) [Todd said] (...) [then Scott replied] (...) [and Todd replied thusly] (...) I side with Todd here. In fact, this is my first substantive post to any group in lugnet.admin.* because, frankly, I don't care to be bothered with administrative (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Todd, Are you speaking of some type of 'preferences' cookie ? Something where I could set my preferences and have the main page include/exclude the messages based on what I specified ? Ray (24 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(An update on an earlier announcement 2 days ago...) (...) The original list above was adjusted downwards to simply the lugnet.admin and lugnet.off-topic subtrees. (In other words, lugnet.market.auction and lugnet.market.jambalaya are included again (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce)
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(...) OK, the portion of this which relates to the issues higher up on this thread is ready now. (URL) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, it's ready -- give it a shot and lemme know what you think: (URL) I care not one whit about auctions, for example, and would like to see them (...) Try one of these: -.auction or -.market.auction or -lugnet.market.auction --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yup -- that's what I meant, yes. --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Try this: -.belville at (URL) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks! It works much better now. The roll your own filter feature is a nice added bonus. Now, can you add a way to exclude certain users? like -lehman,todd ;) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I dunno if you wanna see everything, or skip over some stuff, but here's what you could use to accomplish the above... -.off-topic +.off-topic.clone-brands +.off-topic.fun +.off-topic.geek or simply -.off-topic.debate -.off-topic.pun --Todd (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I'll get right on that. ;-) --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wasn't easy, but managed to do it. Was tricky logic because of the myriad of up/down/sideways +/- twiggles and top/bottom boundaries to worry about. Sorry for it sucking for so many days. Had to make the quick icky/ugly fix first, once it was (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm speechless. That was one quick job, hombre. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote: [...] (...) Uh, yeah, I'll set it to "show just the messages from groups I want to exclude." :-p -Suz. (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) LOL! (oops) Well, hopefully people meant what I knew. :o) --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Cool. I gave it a +lugnet, which I think (since you're just doing character matching) will include everything and should be the same net effect on groups shown as just feeding it a blank input box... (but does it process slower??) *Since* you're (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) thread (...) Frank (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) is there a click-trail to get to /news/filter? There was a link to it from the main page, when it told me it had some hidden messages, but once I disabled the filter, I can't find a link to it... :) Dan (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That would be ever so slightly slower than an empty string, yes. I'm not sure it could be easily measured, though...talking probably something on the order of a 10^-5 second difference. (...) It's doing pure & simple character matchines, ya, (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Prolly also worth explaining somewhere that the expression is compiled left-to-right and is therefore direction-sensitive. That is, -.loc. +.loc.us.ca is very different from +.loc.us.ca -.loc. The string expression is compiled into a code (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Boy, it wasn't very long before someone noticed THAT! :) OK, I stuffed a link to it in on the yellow box on the homepage -- in the "News & Discussion Groups" paragraph. --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) are my rather complicated settings: -.off-topic. +.fun +.pun +.test +.clone-brands -.market. +.theory -.loc +.loc.us.oh For some reason, this filters lugnet.games.lego.loco. Any reason why? (Not that I really care about the game) --Bram (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yep - because the '-.loc' matches with the '.loco', I *think* if you do '-lugnet.loc' instead then it won't affect 'lugnet.games.lego.loco'... I've just tried it out and it works :) Richard (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's because ".loc" is a substring of "lugnet.games.lego.loco". Try using -.loc. or -lugnet.loc. instead. --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmmm... why not just do -.off-topic.debate? That's what I do. Simpler yet gets same results. -Shiri (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I didn't realize at first that I wanted everything but debate:) --Bram (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) yah, are you interested in letting some of us help? :) Dan (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It really isn't, no. But from time to time there might be things which are encapsulatable enough to be done independently and worked in afterwards. The FTX-to-HTML compiler, for example, is fairly encapsulated -- except for the transclusion (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just occurred to me earlier today - someone said it's too bad you can't view links like <set:8880> in the newsreader - then I thought, why can't we put a filter between incoming messages and the news DB to make it possible? basically move the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It needs to be a late-binding thing. The conversion from <set:8880> to <A HREF="/pause/search/...80></A> in the web interface happens at on-the-fly only at display-time. If you have a highly configurable newsreader (like something (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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With some snippage here and there, Todd Lehman one wrote in lugnet.admin.general: (...) That does it for me! I will no longer be bidding in Auczilla auctions if it means that I will be helping to support the use of illicit substances by another (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) oh, I've no problem - just thought it'd be easier for less configurable newsreaders... I just set CTRL-ALT-P to take whatever's in the clipboard, and pop up two windows for me - text info (name, etc.) and an XV windows with the picture... the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) XV Rules! I do like the GIMP but for some things there is absolutely no substitute for XV. The color editor and visual browser functionality is unmatched. I even wrote some of my own filters for XV for cleaning up mars images. Someone else (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) <snip> (...) Probably. (Just kidding!) Your theory about Todd is, at the least, more plausible (and would be more shocking if it were true) than the hilarious theory about Anakin, Vader, Obi- Wan and Ben Kenobi that appears here: (URL) Now, if (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not me though, its just 2am right now. (...) Well, I like the fun - but to play devil's advocate here if this were true, I've had a couple phone conversations with a 1.75" tall piece of plastic. One that has a much deeper voice than expected (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No, you are just cracking up and should seek professional help. You need to stop staying up to the crack of dawn, late niters aren't all they're cracked up to be. I'd like to say your post cracked ME up, but frankly, it wasn't all that (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hmm. Didn't take. Guess it's a member-only thing. I should go fill out that monster form. Someday. Steve (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ?? Worked for me, and I'm not logged in, so it doesn't know I'm a member. James (URL) getting paid for this --> alladvantage.com Sign up via me, the reference $$ go to fund Lugnet. (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm, no, it's not a member-only thing. All it does is sets a cookie. Perchance have you disabled cookies in your browser? --Todd (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) When I try to put through a filter of: +lugnet nothing takes -- the updated filter page shows that my current settings are the default settings: -.off-topic -.admin But when I put in: -.xxx +lugnet the filter is set correctly. Is there (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm, thanks for the data. I can only think of one thing that's consistent with that data. I have a hypothesis: Your web browser has a bug, and it is tossing (ignoring) empty-string cookies rather than storing and reporting back the empty (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yep, I'm using MSIE5. (...) Now the page seems to work correctly. I put in "+lugnet" for the filter, and it came back saying my current filter is "<I>(none)</I>". Steve (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Excellent! --Todd (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just thought of something... One thing missing which would be 100% encapsulatable would be a filter to fix up icky encodings like "quoted-printable" (which cause stuff like =F6 and =20 to appear all over the place) into regular non-encoded (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, let's talk a bit about some possible solutions... First, let's nail down the problem: The problem isn't that the system is clogged up per se (it's always clogged up :) but that Brad's announcements/pronouncements are so quickly lost among (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) How about other terms being used? I might suggest: lugnet.lego-direct lugnet.lego-direct.official reserve posting privledges to LD representatives only; FUT defaul set at lugnet.lego-direct I also would like to suggest this lugnet.dear-lego (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just came across this article in my bookmarks. Everything work out OK with the filter? (It's not a member-only thing.) (...) Some people leave it 90% blank and come back to it later after they're all signed up. When you sign in, there's a (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman wrote: [snipped quote from old message about a bug in the web interface's message-filter] (...) Yep, we got it worked out. (...) Ah. OK. Still need to sign up. Steve (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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