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Re: Cleaning up the main homepage
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lugnet.admin.general
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Date:
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Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:31:00 GMT
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> Thus, to lessen the noise levels on the root homepage, the server now "hides"
> messages appearing in the following parts of the newsgroup tree:
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> lugnet.admin.*
> lugnet.market.auction
> lugnet.market.jambalaya
> lugnet.off-topic.*
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> (This isn't perfect, and the list may need a bit of adjustment up or down,
> but I think it's a good starting point And actually, I wish this had been
> in place since day one. I hope many people haven't been scared away because
> of this flaw.)
Like you said it isn't perfect. I definitly like the off-topic stuff hidden
and I guess the admin stuff too even though I do like to read those sometimes
it will just require an extra click on my part.
I think I have mixed feelings on the .auction and .jambalaya stuff though. I
know you said in a previous post that a lot of .jambalaya stuff is just noise
like "Please add me to this box" and that is true so I guess I can live with
that. As for .auction stuff I don't know. I agree we have to crack down on
miss placed .auction posts but they are LEGO related and even though I don't
participate in a ton of auctions I am usually interested in what people have to
offer and often times I get that information from the home page.
I know I can still get it buy clicking into the group but I don't know if that
is necessary to block them from view. My view is that the Home page should
just filter out "Non-LEGO" stuff (as much as that is possible). To me the
auction stuff is LEGO related so I am interested.
I don't know like I said I have mixed feelings about it. I personally love the
fact that .off-topic. is hidden and the administravia definitly does not need
to be there and could scare people away. For the rest I think if it is LEGO
related then I am OK with it, even .auction stuff provided it is properly
placed.
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> Additionally, when an article in a list is hidden, it tells you how many
> articles in hid and in which groups (with links). Just in case you want to
> check it out. For example,
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> (Not shown are 3 messages from lugnet.off-topic.test, lugnet.admin.general,
> lugnet.market.jambalaya)
I don't know if it's just me but I find this a bit messy. I don't know how to
fix it but maybe there is a way on the homepage to list "blocked groups"
without the "Not Shown" message. That would be tough though because not all
groups are blocked at the root level ( lugnet.market for example ).
I guess if you are going to block them I would say go all the way and not even
post a link each time a blocked message is posted.
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> While this change probably comes as a "good thing" to most web-interface
> users, I realize that it may also come as a "bummer" to some people (power
> users, or those who want to read everything as soon as it appears) in that
> it makes them work a bit harder to uncover every single last message. I'm
> sorry for that, and I hope at some future point to have a completely different
> and more customizable solution in place, but for now, this seems like the
> right thing to do. It's the lesser of two evils.
Definitly a good thing overall although it might need some tweaking.
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> Someone said it pretty well the other day...I can't remember the exact quote
> but it went something like this:
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> "It really bummed me out when I went to the lugnet homepage and _all four_
> of the latest messages were the subject line about this stupid religious
> debate. I don't care if my god can whoop your god. Can we get back to
> talking about LEGO?"
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> The religious debate messages _were_ properly all placed in the .off-topic.
> debate group, but they also showed up on the main homepage. Although the
> main homepage wasn't designed as a newsreader, that's how people use it.
> This change is for those people.
It was definitly a bummer to me too when all I saw were .admin.council and
.off-topic debates about religion etc.
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
View My Creations at:
http://www.nelug.org/members/kingsley/
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| All, I've been up most of the night tonight recoding and retesting the code on the server which displays lists of messages, in particular the root home page (URL), which gives a top-level overview of current activity in the system. Recent off-topic (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce)
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