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Subject: 
take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:30:45 GMT
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Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a
box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.

I always kind of figured I'd find the time someday to sell or trade them,
but because this particular bunch of stuff is such a mish-mash of various
elements, I don't think it's really worth all the hassle.

So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

Let's say I mail it to someone a couple states away, and they pick out some
pieces they like, and replace them with some pieces they don't need.  Then
they, in turn, send the box on to a new person.  The process could repeat
itself over and over, and, eventually, the box could probably tour the
entire world.  :)

I'm thinkin' a couple restrictions might be wise:

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and
    you'd have to put in pieces that were in at least as good quality as
    those you took out.  (In other words, this helps prevent the quality of
    the pieces in the box from slowly going downhill overall.)

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking
    the box and sending it on to the next person within a couple or three
    days, so that the overall person-to-person turnaround cycle would
    average approximately one week (even less would be better).

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --
    because this way, after the box reaches a certain size, it won't fit
    in a reasonable size anymore -- and that's good -- because it could then
    fork into two boxes, each of which goes happily on its way independently
    of the other.  Over time, the forks might even fork, and there might
    then be three or four boxes merrily going around.

Obviously there's a bit of a gamble in that when a box arrives to you, there
may not be anything you like, but the more boxes that get going around, the
more chances that you might have to get something interesting.  I guess in
the best of all possible worlds, it could be like Christmas several times a
year for those participating.  :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:56:39 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <37802182.34769436@lugnet.com>...
If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about • $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?


Cool. I'm sure I would find stuff to trade with such a box. I know I have
bits and pieces not worth trying to auction off. Would a reasonable amount
fit in the fixed rate priority envelope, or would that be too high a risk of
damage? That would make it $3.20 to mail along. One thing which would also
help defray the cost, is to look out for folks hosting a gathering within a
week, and mail it to them, then a group of people get a chance at the
package, and can share the cost of the next hop. I'd also encourage people
to post to this (or another) newsgroup with stories about the pieces they
take or put in ("Hey, watch for the red froozle-doozle, I found it on the
side of the road in east nowhere." or "I've been looking for a blue
biggle-boggle for years, now I can build my mini-fig scale woozer, see the
pictures on my web site.").

Frank


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 04:26:58 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:

Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a
box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.

I always kind of figured I'd find the time someday to sell or trade them,
but because this particular bunch of stuff is such a mish-mash of various
elements, I don't think it's really worth all the hassle.

So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

Let's say I mail it to someone a couple states away, and they pick out some
pieces they like, and replace them with some pieces they don't need.  Then
they, in turn, send the box on to a new person.  The process could repeat
itself over and over, and, eventually, the box could probably tour the
entire world.  :)

I'm thinkin' a couple restrictions might be wise:

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and
   you'd have to put in pieces that were in at least as good quality as
   those you took out.  (In other words, this helps prevent the quality of
   the pieces in the box from slowly going downhill overall.)

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking
   the box and sending it on to the next person within a couple or three
   days, so that the overall person-to-person turnaround cycle would
   average approximately one week (even less would be better).

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --
   because this way, after the box reaches a certain size, it won't fit
   in a reasonable size anymore -- and that's good -- because it could then
   fork into two boxes, each of which goes happily on its way independently
   of the other.  Over time, the forks might even fork, and there might
   then be three or four boxes merrily going around.

Obviously there's a bit of a gamble in that when a box arrives to you, there
may not be anything you like, but the more boxes that get going around, the
more chances that you might have to get something interesting.  I guess in
the best of all possible worlds, it could be like Christmas several times a
year for those participating.  :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd


Oh sure, come up with this right after I mailed a box of wheels away.  :')

Sounds like a great idea.

Here's another - the route of the box(es) could be arranged so that the next
recipient would have a different LEGO interest:  castle would send to space
who would send to town who would send to technic....  That way the castle
people could dump their space and town, the town could dump their castle and
technic ....  That would help insure that the next recipient would find
something of interest.

The danger is of course that after a few months, it could end up as nothing
more than a box of blue 1x1 bricks.  :')


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:22:04 GMT
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Ed Jones <edboxer@aol.com> wrote:

The danger is of course that after a few months, it could end up as nothing
more than a box of blue 1x1 bricks.  :')

now.. now.. what's wrong with blue 1x1? I like 'em... (in fact, I like
all of the 1x1s... haven't found a way to make good use of them, but they
are cool.. ) I must have a couple thousands of yellow, white, blue and
red 1x1s... :-)


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:31:26 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Ed Jones writes:
[...]
The danger is of course that after a few months, it could end up as
nothing more than a box of blue 1x1 bricks.  :')

Hey, maybe that's not a danger but a feature...  :-)

If it ever wound up that way, then it probably served its purpose,
assuming that no one person abused it by taking all the good stuff
and plunking down blue 1x1's in place.

Anyhow, it sure sounds like a risk worth taking to me.  I just want some
of this stuff out of my LEGO room.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:37:47 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <37802182.34769436@lugnet.com>...

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd

Of course it is..:-) Enlarging the project to contain other countries would
be much better, although the risk would be higher considering very different
kinds of postal services and customs. Anyway, if you give it a try like this
way, let us know.

Selçuk


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:01:06 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a
box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.

I always kind of figured I'd find the time someday to sell or trade them,
but because this particular bunch of stuff is such a mish-mash of various
elements, I don't think it's really worth all the hassle.

So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

Let's say I mail it to someone a couple states away, and they pick out some
pieces they like, and replace them with some pieces they don't need.  Then
they, in turn, send the box on to a new person.  The process could repeat
itself over and over, and, eventually, the box could probably tour the
entire world.  :)

I'm thinkin' a couple restrictions might be wise:

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and
    you'd have to put in pieces that were in at least as good quality as
    those you took out.  (In other words, this helps prevent the quality of
    the pieces in the box from slowly going downhill overall.)

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking
    the box and sending it on to the next person within a couple or three
    days, so that the overall person-to-person turnaround cycle would
    average approximately one week (even less would be better).

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --
    because this way, after the box reaches a certain size, it won't fit
    in a reasonable size anymore -- and that's good -- because it could then
    fork into two boxes, each of which goes happily on its way independently
    of the other.  Over time, the forks might even fork, and there might
    then be three or four boxes merrily going around.

Obviously there's a bit of a gamble in that when a box arrives to you, there
may not be anything you like, but the more boxes that get going around, the
more chances that you might have to get something interesting.  I guess in
the best of all possible worlds, it could be like Christmas several times a
year for those participating.  :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd

This sounds like an excellent idea. A couple more suggestions:

1) You might want to limit the number of pieces that could be exchanged
per person (say 10-20 at most, I don't know)... and encourage people to
input a variety of pieces rather than a handful of 1x2's or something.
This could help keep the piece variety interesting.

2) A website could be made to 'track' the box(es) and have people sign
up to be 'in the queue' for the postal mailing list.

3) Also, type out a clear, concise page (webpage that could be printed
out) that explains all the 'rules' and send it along with the pieces.

4) Finally, if the lot finally does become just a bunch of 1x1's... send
'em to me... I'll use 'em all [grin]

eric

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Harshbarger / eric@ericharshbarger.org / www.ericharshbarger.org

"Oh please, if people are going to start telling the truth around
here... I'm going to bed." - Jackie-O (Parker Posey, THE HOUSE OF YES)
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:22:06 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Eric Harshbarger writes:

Todd Lehman wrote:

Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a
box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.

I always kind of figured I'd find the time someday to sell or trade them,
but because this particular bunch of stuff is such a mish-mash of various
elements, I don't think it's really worth all the hassle.

So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

Let's say I mail it to someone a couple states away, and they pick out some
pieces they like, and replace them with some pieces they don't need.  Then
they, in turn, send the box on to a new person.  The process could repeat
itself over and over, and, eventually, the box could probably tour the
entire world.  :)

I'm thinkin' a couple restrictions might be wise:

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and
    you'd have to put in pieces that were in at least as good quality as
    those you took out.  (In other words, this helps prevent the quality of
    the pieces in the box from slowly going downhill overall.)

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking
    the box and sending it on to the next person within a couple or three
    days, so that the overall person-to-person turnaround cycle would
    average approximately one week (even less would be better).

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --
    because this way, after the box reaches a certain size, it won't fit
    in a reasonable size anymore -- and that's good -- because it could then
    fork into two boxes, each of which goes happily on its way independently
    of the other.  Over time, the forks might even fork, and there might
    then be three or four boxes merrily going around.

Obviously there's a bit of a gamble in that when a box arrives to you, there
may not be anything you like, but the more boxes that get going around, the
more chances that you might have to get something interesting.  I guess in
the best of all possible worlds, it could be like Christmas several times a
year for those participating.  :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd

This sounds like an excellent idea. A couple more suggestions:

1) You might want to limit the number of pieces that could be exchanged
per person (say 10-20 at most, I don't know)... and encourage people to
input a variety of pieces rather than a handful of 1x2's or something.
This could help keep the piece variety interesting.

2) A website could be made to 'track' the box(es) and have people sign
up to be 'in the queue' for the postal mailing list.

3) Also, type out a clear, concise page (webpage that could be printed
out) that explains all the 'rules' and send it along with the pieces.

4) Finally, if the lot finally does become just a bunch of 1x1's... send
'em to me... I'll use 'em all [grin]

How about in order to keep the box from going to blue 1x1's, people have to put
in what they take out, like if they take out a purple 1x19 plate, they have to
put in another type of plate, and if they take a Timmy, they have to put in
another minifig, or a 1x1 finned Space engine, another engine piece must go in,
etc..
Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/

eric

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Harshbarger / eric@ericharshbarger.org / www.ericharshbarger.org

"Oh please, if people are going to start telling the truth around
here... I'm going to bed." - Jackie-O (Parker Posey, THE HOUSE OF YES)
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:52:03 GMT
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Count me in. At last, a home for all those worthless space and castle
pieces! I need relief on the one week deadline though as I usually only
mail things on weekends.

Todd Lehman wrote:
<snip, unlike just about everyone else who quoted the whole thing>

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
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"Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:

Enlarging the project to contain other countries would
be much better, although the risk would be higher considering very different
kinds of postal services and customs.

It would probably both take too long and be too expensive to send the
box from country to county around the world.  If this idea seems to be
working out, maybe others will start a box to send around another
country(1). Also, a particular country overseas might be a good
destination for one of the "forks".

1.  Finding a box provider or people to participate in the passing
would be a good way to use your country's loc newsgroup.


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:12:47 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Patricia Schempp writes:
Greg Majewski wrote
How about in order to keep the box from going to blue 1x1's, people
have to put in what they take out, like if they take out a purple
1x19 plate, they have to put in another type of plate, and if they
take a Timmy, they have to put in another minifig, or a 1x1 finned
Space engine, another engine piece must go in, etc..

I think that might defeat the purpose of the box.  I might have space
engine pieces i don't want, and getting space engine pieces back out
of the box wouldn't help if I wanted plates.  Maybe a more general rule
like just try to keep a good fun mix going would be appropriate.

Yeah, that's a great way of wording it!  That's perfectly in line with the
idea behind it -- to keep a good fun mix going, so it doesn't get so boring
that it peters out.


Patricia Schempp
pschemp@clemson.edu
(Hey, there are three dedicated lego nuts here at clemson, (we're all
friends) so can we have the box first?)
(If not oh well, can't hurt tryin' !  *grin*)

Someone and his child in California already called "first dibs" -- but
there's really no reason there has to only be one box going around.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:34:10 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:

<cool idea>

Ditto's to the various 'count me in's!  Heck, I could bounce it around my
basement and catch 6 different people's collections! <grin>(1)

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/


1: This is what happens when you're the only maniac with floorspace! ;)


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:27:41 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <3780C693.F2792496@voyager.net>...
Count me in. At last, a home for all those worthless space and castle
pieces! I need relief on the one week deadline though as I usually only
mail things on weekends.


There would be another advantage of using the fixed rate priority envelope.
I assume that if you get one of these from the post office, and $3.20 in
stamps, you can just drop it in the mailbox. This someone with limited
access to a post office can just get the mailing stuff in advance, and then
just has to go by a mailbox within the time limit.

Of course another issue for someone like Larry who travels alot is that if
the box arrives the day they leave on a several day trip, there is an
automatic dead time while they're away.

I think exceptions would be reasonable, perhaps modified with a "Since
you're delaying things a bit, take that into account when you decide what to
put in, and maybe put in something a little extra." The other thing would be
to insert someone like Larry between people who can promise a quick
turnaround, and perhaps even live close enough to Larry that transit time
to/from him would only be 2-3 days instead of 3-4. I would suspect that if
everyone were conscientious, that the average time would end up slightly
less than a week between stops, even with a bunch of folk like Larry. Mail
often only takes a couple days transit, and most people will probably be
able to mail the package along the day after they receive it.

Frank


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:59:42 GMT
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Greg Majewski wrote

How about in order to keep the box from going to blue 1x1's, people have to put
in what they take out, like if they take out a purple 1x19 plate, they have to
put in another type of plate, and if they take a Timmy, they have to put in
another minifig, or a 1x1 finned Space engine, another engine piece must go in,
etc..
Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/

I think that might defeat the purpose of the box.  I might have space engine pieces
i don't want, and getting space engine pieces back out of the box wouldn't help if
I wanted plates.  Maybe a more general rule like just try to keep a good fun mix
going would be appropriate.

Patricia Schempp
pschemp@clemson.edu
(Hey, there are three dedicated lego nuts here at clemson, (we're all friends) so
can we have the box first?)
(If not oh well, can't hurt tryin' !  *grin*)


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:05:06 GMT
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I'd have to say count me in! I've got a bunch of stuff here I'll
probably never use that I could toss in for a few pieces...
Since someone's got First dibs, can I have 2nd :) I haven't heard anyone
ask yet!!
I understand what you mean though Todd.. I could probably throw a couple
hundred pieces into the pile easily, just to get them out of my hair.

How many boxes you think we'll get floating around to start? just the
one or would you be trying to split it up a little more? Will there be a
way to know which box we'd be getting.. or a way of signing up for the
extra boxes?

Sounds like a great idea!!!!

Tamy


Todd Lehman wrote:

Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a
box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.

I always kind of figured I'd find the time someday to sell or trade them,
but because this particular bunch of stuff is such a mish-mash of various
elements, I don't think it's really worth all the hassle.

So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

Let's say I mail it to someone a couple states away, and they pick out some
pieces they like, and replace them with some pieces they don't need.  Then
they, in turn, send the box on to a new person.  The process could repeat
itself over and over, and, eventually, the box could probably tour the
entire world.  :)

I'm thinkin' a couple restrictions might be wise:

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and
    you'd have to put in pieces that were in at least as good quality as
    those you took out.  (In other words, this helps prevent the quality of
    the pieces in the box from slowly going downhill overall.)

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking
    the box and sending it on to the next person within a couple or three
    days, so that the overall person-to-person turnaround cycle would
    average approximately one week (even less would be better).

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --
    because this way, after the box reaches a certain size, it won't fit
    in a reasonable size anymore -- and that's good -- because it could then
    fork into two boxes, each of which goes happily on its way independently
    of the other.  Over time, the forks might even fork, and there might
    then be three or four boxes merrily going around.

Obviously there's a bit of a gamble in that when a box arrives to you, there
may not be anything you like, but the more boxes that get going around, the
more chances that you might have to get something interesting.  I guess in
the best of all possible worlds, it could be like Christmas several times a
year for those participating.  :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

Does this sound like a fun idea?

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:47:43 GMT
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Frank Filz wrote in message ...

Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <3780C693.F2792496@voyager.net>...
Count me in. At last, a home for all those worthless space and castle
pieces! I need relief on the one week deadline though as I usually only
mail things on weekends.


There would be another advantage of using the fixed rate priority envelope.
I assume that if you get one of these from the post office, and $3.20 in
stamps, you can just drop it in the mailbox. This someone with limited
access to a post office can just get the mailing stuff in advance, and then
just has to go by a mailbox within the time limit.
Frank


   I think you are supposed to take any parcel over 4 ounces to the post
office in person for security reasons.  Not sure how stern they are about
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Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/

I think that might defeat the purpose of the box.  I might have space • engine pieces
i don't want, and getting space engine pieces back out of the box wouldn't • help if
I wanted plates.  Maybe a more general rule like just try to keep a good • fun mix
going would be appropriate.



I have to agree with Greg on this one.  I have an odd collection of castle
and space pieces that are no interest to me which I would gladly swap for
any town parts.  While some parts of no value they are extremely valuable to
other collectors and I think that was the point that Todd was originally
trying to make.

I think a simple rule to keep the box interesting would not to allow any
non-decorated regular 1xn or 2xn bricks in it.  The life of this experiment
would probably be extended a great deal buy doing this.  There may be other
pieces that should be prohibited as well.  Instead of ending up with a box
of blue 1x1s, we may end up with a box of blue boat plates instead!

Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://members.tripod.com/mike_walsh

PS:  Count me in!  I want to be on the list as well but like Larry, my
travel schedule can be somewhat unpredictable so there is a small chance
that I couldn't meet the one week turn around requirement.


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Hey, could you make this exciting for those of us without a warehouse
full of bricks to contribute?  (Each and every one of my bricks is a
treasure in its own special way, and I'm unwilling to part with any of
them right now.)

So how about having everyone post a message telling which bricks they took
and which bricks they abandoned.  That way the rest of us can laugh at
the silly stuff some folks want and cry over the great wealth of bricks
the others will just give away.  Plus all you debaters can razz anybody
dumps a bunch of Timmies for all the cool castle and space(1) bricks.

Don Heyse

(1) Feel free to substitute your favorite stuff here.

PS.  I apologise to anyone who truly identifies with Timmy.


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Mike Walsh wrote

I think a simple rule to keep the box interesting would not to allow any
non-decorated regular 1xn or 2xn bricks in it.  Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://members.tripod.com/mike_walsh

That's the whole idea of a good fun mix.  1x and 2x are necessary, but not what
I would call "fun".

Patricia Schempp


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Ben Roller wrote in message <3780d6d3.174634513@lugnet.com>...
"Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:

Enlarging the project to contain other countries would
be much better, although the risk would be higher considering very • different
kinds of postal services and customs.

It would probably both take too long and be too expensive to send the
box from country to county around the world.  If this idea seems to be
working out, maybe others will start a box to send around another
country(1). Also, a particular country overseas might be a good
destination for one of the "forks".

1.  Finding a box provider or people to participate in the passing
would be a good way to use your country's loc newsgroup.

Thanks for the nice recommendation, but what if I'm the only online AFOL
from my very own country?..:-)

Selçuk


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Todd Lehman wrote:
So what if I sent this box of LEGO on a long, long, worldwide journey?
(I don't ever care if it comes back to me, I just want it to find a better
home.)

I'd do it.

Cheers,
- jsproat

--
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5249/
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:59:42 GMT, Patricia Schempp uttered the following
profundities...
How about in order to keep the box from going to blue 1x1's, people have to put
in what they take out, like if they take out a purple 1x19 plate, they have to
put in another type of plate, and if they take a Timmy, they have to put in
another minifig, or a 1x1 finned Space engine, another engine piece must go in,
etc..
Greg


A webpage or newsgroup log, to perhaps keep it honest. I'd
put in a silver brick so that someone in Europe who might not
have had a chance for one would.

Size, though, for an international box, would have to be
somewhat smaller, especially considering disparate postage
rates in Europe.

But for an international box, that might end up back with Todd,
place inside a tiny, lightweight souvenir of the country the
box had visited, such as an unused, special issue postage
stamp or something. As well as being a Lego exchange, it could
end up as a mini-cultural exchange of sorts.
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I'd love to do this.
I'd throw in extra pieces, too...
Some pieces are simply 'worth' more to me than others.

I like the no 1x or 2x bricks rule...
but I would also suggest we limit the number of Timmy's
that any one person can contribute to one.

-- dave


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Mike Walsh wrote:

Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/

I think that might defeat the purpose of the box.  I might have space • engine pieces
i don't want, and getting space engine pieces back out of the box wouldn't • help if
I wanted plates.  Maybe a more general rule like just try to keep a good • fun mix
going would be appropriate.


I have to agree with Greg on this one.  I have an odd collection of castle
and space pieces that are no interest to me which I would gladly swap for
any town parts.  While some parts of no value they are extremely valuable to
other collectors and I think that was the point that Todd was originally
trying to make.

I think a simple rule to keep the box interesting would not to allow any
non-decorated regular 1xn or 2xn bricks in it.  The life of this experiment
would probably be extended a great deal buy doing this.  There may be other
pieces that should be prohibited as well.  Instead of ending up with a box
of blue 1x1s, we may end up with a box of blue boat plates instead!

I don't know, if I had a boatload of boat plates, I might play with
making a hull from them (one could also slightly change the lines of a
boat by alternating between boat bow bricks and plates). Also 1x10 or
longer and 2x8 or longer are probably ok in small quantities (I suspect
they wouldn't travel more than a stop or two in the box). Uncommon
colors would also be ok in small to moderate quantities.

PS:  Count me in!  I want to be on the list as well but like Larry, my
travel schedule can be somewhat unpredictable so there is a small chance
that I couldn't meet the one week turn around requirement.

Of course Raleigh is one of those multi-person stops...  I'm sure James,
Phil, and Karim would be game for it.

--
Frank Filz

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Don Heyse wrote:

Hey, could you make this exciting for those of us without a warehouse
full of bricks to contribute?  (Each and every one of my bricks is a
treasure in its own special way, and I'm unwilling to part with any of
them right now.)

So how about having everyone post a message telling which bricks they took
and which bricks they abandoned.  That way the rest of us can laugh at
the silly stuff some folks want and cry over the great wealth of bricks
the others will just give away.  Plus all you debaters can razz anybody
dumps a bunch of Timmies for all the cool castle and space(1) bricks.

Don Heyse

(1) Feel free to substitute your favorite stuff here.

PS.  I apologise to anyone who truly identifies with Timmy.

Hey how about those of us who identifiy with a warehouse?!

Count me in!

I'm now working on my 3rd 20 pound box of mish-mash miscellaneous parts that
I'll never use.  Can I cheat and load up the box going out?  I know I've got
some stuff other folks will want.

And I can fish out those 1x1 bricks, that are a mainstay with me .........

And perhaps in some areas the box can be passed around person to person.  For
example, there are many Lego Maniacs in the Detroit/Ann Arbor area .... I can
get what I want out of the box and then hand it to Scott Sandburn of Ann Arbor
(who will probably want to check it out immediately after me anyway) or Mark
Koesel or others in the area, and then it can get sent to someone in another
city.

Gary Istok


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Gary Istok wrote:

Don Heyse wrote:

Hey, could you make this exciting for those of us without a warehouse
full of bricks to contribute?  (Each and every one of my bricks is a
treasure in its own special way, and I'm unwilling to part with any of
them right now.)

So how about having everyone post a message telling which bricks they took
and which bricks they abandoned.  That way the rest of us can laugh at
the silly stuff some folks want and cry over the great wealth of bricks
the others will just give away.  Plus all you debaters can razz anybody
dumps a bunch of Timmies for all the cool castle and space(1) bricks.

Don Heyse

(1) Feel free to substitute your favorite stuff here.

PS.  I apologise to anyone who truly identifies with Timmy.

Hey how about those of us who identifiy with a warehouse?!

Count me in!

I'm now working on my 3rd 20 pound box of mish-mash miscellaneous parts that
I'll never use.  Can I cheat and load up the box going out?  I know I've got
some stuff other folks will want.

Cheater cheater, he put too much neat stuff in! Cheat all you want in
this way Gary...  Of course you could always start a box or two
yourself, or be one of the points where the box splits.

I think I've come up with a good place to put my mismatched pirate ship
stern... If there's anyone out there that can use it, one of these boxes
would be the best way to get it to that person.

--
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Frank Filz wrote:

Mike Walsh wrote:

Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/

I think that might defeat the purpose of the box.  I might have space • engine pieces
i don't want, and getting space engine pieces back out of the box wouldn't • help if
I wanted plates.  Maybe a more general rule like just try to keep a good • fun mix
going would be appropriate.


I have to agree with Greg on this one.  I have an odd collection of castle
and space pieces that are no interest to me which I would gladly swap for
any town parts.  While some parts of no value they are extremely valuable to
other collectors and I think that was the point that Todd was originally
trying to make.

I think a simple rule to keep the box interesting would not to allow any
non-decorated regular 1xn or 2xn bricks in it.  The life of this experiment
would probably be extended a great deal buy doing this.  There may be other
pieces that should be prohibited as well.  Instead of ending up with a box
of blue 1x1s, we may end up with a box of blue boat plates instead!

I don't know, if I had a boatload of boat plates, I might play with
making a hull from them (one could also slightly change the lines of a
boat by alternating between boat bow bricks and plates). Also 1x10 or
longer and 2x8 or longer are probably ok in small quantities (I suspect
they wouldn't travel more than a stop or two in the box). Uncommon
colors would also be ok in small to moderate quantities.

PS:  Count me in!  I want to be on the list as well but like Larry, my
travel schedule can be somewhat unpredictable so there is a small chance
that I couldn't meet the one week turn around requirement.

Of course Raleigh is one of those multi-person stops...  I'm sure James,
Phil, and Karim would be game for it.

--
Frank Filz

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  i aggree that rare colors such as green,brown,light blue,orange of basic bricks
etc be allowed


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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:02:55 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>"
<sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:


Ben Roller wrote in message <3780d6d3.174634513@lugnet.com>...
"Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:

Enlarging the project to contain other countries would
be much better, although the risk would be higher considering very • different
kinds of postal services and customs.

It would probably both take too long and be too expensive to send the
box from country to county around the world.  If this idea seems to be
working out, maybe others will start a box to send around another
country(1). Also, a particular country overseas might be a good
destination for one of the "forks".

1.  Finding a box provider or people to participate in the passing
would be a good way to use your country's loc newsgroup.

Thanks for the nice recommendation, but what if I'm the only online AFOL
from my very own country?..:-)

Then you could just post to yourself.  And then mail the box back to yourself.
Act surprised when you get it.
Be careful though, it might lead to MPD.(1)

-- Terry K --
1.  Not Multi-Part Dat, but Multiple Personality Disorder.


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Terry K wrote in message <3782fabd.15877393@lugnet.com>...
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:02:55 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>"
<sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:


Ben Roller wrote in message <3780d6d3.174634513@lugnet.com>...
"Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote:

Enlarging the project to contain other countries would
be much better, although the risk would be higher considering very • different
kinds of postal services and customs.

It would probably both take too long and be too expensive to send the
box from country to county around the world.  If this idea seems to be
working out, maybe others will start a box to send around another
country(1). Also, a particular country overseas might be a good
destination for one of the "forks".

1.  Finding a box provider or people to participate in the passing
would be a good way to use your country's loc newsgroup.

Thanks for the nice recommendation, but what if I'm the only online AFOL
from my very own country?..:-)

Then you could just post to yourself.  And then mail the box back to • yourself.
Act surprised when you get it.

LOL..:-)

Selçuk

Be careful though, it might lead to MPD.(1)

-- Terry K --
1.  Not Multi-Part Dat, but Multiple Personality Disorder.


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In lugnet.general, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority
mail, sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly
inexpensive (about $5 per person), at least within the U.S., which
would be a good place to give it a try.

It would be cheaper for non-priority.  I'm thinking that 1000 pieces is
too many.  How about 200 to start?

I think it's important to get the benefit of the strong USPS Priority Mail
boxes, which are built-in to the cost of shipping.  Even without, it almost
never makes sense to mail LEGO non-Priority unless it's a very small (say,
10-oz. or less) package.  Anyway, what's so bad about $3.20 to $5.40
(depending on the weight) for what you might get?


I'm thinking too that it would be fun to just buy a box off the shelf
and send it around for trades and see how it ended up after n trades.

HA!  :-)  Cool...Kind of like the "Telephone" game, huh?  :-)

--Todd


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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.general, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority
mail, sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly
inexpensive (about $5 per person), at least within the U.S., which
would be a good place to give it a try.

It would be cheaper for non-priority.  I'm thinking that 1000 pieces is
too many.  How about 200 to start?

I think it's important to get the benefit of the strong USPS Priority Mail
boxes, which are built-in to the cost of shipping.  Even without, it almost
never makes sense to mail LEGO non-Priority unless it's a very small (say,
10-oz. or less) package.  Anyway, what's so bad about $3.20 to $5.40
(depending on the weight) for what you might get?

I'm thinking too that it would be fun to just buy a box off the shelf
and send it around for trades and see how it ended up after n trades.

Hm, an idea which would really get things going quick, everyone who
wants to play in the game, either put a box of X pieces together, or buy
a set off the shelf with that many pieces or more (maybe require 10%
more or so since there will be many "common" bricks). You can even trade
with the set off the shelf before sending it on its first trip. If you
ever want out of the game, you keep the next box you get, and tell the
person after that to send the box to the next person you were going to
send (or otherwise remove yourself from the algorithm). If you started
the game by buying a new set, it might be reasonable to be put on a "I
want out" list, at which point, the next time a new person is coming in
who will be paying the entry fee by buying a new box, either buys in
interesting box you would like, or just sends you a check. Of course in
this case, you still need to send along the box you currently have.

We could have a random shuffler which tells everyone who their next hop
is. You're also still welcome to share your box with anyone in the same
town.

The big question with this is is it worth $3.20 per week to be involved?
I think the boxes could be smaller in this situation (for those with
huge piles, you can always "sell" a box to someone comming into the game
without a box of their own to contribute). At that point, it might even
be worth picking a weight which can be mailed for just a buck or two.

Thereal interesting thing would be what would be in there after 10-20
hops? How many hops would be needed to basically re-distribute all the
unwanted, but interesting, parts? If the time period is long enough of
course, you'll have gotten new unwanted parts. If the scheme works well
enough, you'll even be more willing to bid on some of those weird lots
on eBay, because you get the 50% of the parts you wanted, and have lots
of neat stuff to trade with future boxes. Another interesting idea, how
long would it take to build a specific set from a few years ago from the
trades? After two years you post "Yay! I finally got the xoozle-woozle I
needed for the frim-flotz! It's now complete, all parts were acquired
from trade boxes." Now the question is do you tell people what set
you're trying to build? I would definitely say it would be "unfair" to
list specific parts you need, though in a general sense, I see no
problem saying, in the newsgroup for this trade box idea, "I need
zoodle-boobers, I've got frizzle-goozles to put in the box."

There are just too many fun ideas to play with with this idea.

--
Frank Filz

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got a

Very cool!

There has been a fair amount of discussion regarding rules for this, but
I bet that if it just started, people would keep it going well.  I think
the idea of a newsgroup devoted to discussion of these boxes is a good
idea too.  What if there were a small log-book included in the box where
people could write where and when it went and maybe include the stamps
used - or whatever, so that we could get a real feel for it's journey.

1.  You'd have to pitch in at least as many pieces as you took out, and

Good rule.  More specifics - like a ratio to stick to would be cumbersome.

2.  You'd have to work quickly -- grabbing out what you wanted and repacking

Quickly is relative and there might end up several of them floating
around so quickly doesn't matter so much.

3.  Putting in a little more than you took out would be encouraged --

Right.  The idea of forking is really neat too.  I figure that anyone on
the list is agreeing to pony up postage for sending it on in exchange
for the right to trade with it/them.  If/when it comes to me, if it's
reasonable to add enough to cause a fork, I'll do so and then pass one
off to Europe so that someone there can get it going around...but I want
it back when it's returning to North America :-)

If everyone sent the pieces on to the next person via USPS Priority mail,
sealed in a 2-gallon ZipLoc bag, it ought to be fairly inexpensive (about $5
per person), at least within the U.S., which would be a good place to give
it a try.

It would be cheaper for non-priority.  I'm thinking that 1000 pieces is
too many.  How about 200 to start?

Does this sound like a fun idea?

Very.

I'm thinking too that it would be fun to just buy a box off the shelf
and send it around for trades and see how it ended up after n trades.

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA


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As I said in a spawned thread.. with some planning I can get a box moved
from one region of the country to another for nothing. If it's small
enough.

Chris, where are you, I am going to be in Springfield MO for a few hours
on Monday.


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Richard Dee wrote in message ...
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:59:42 GMT, Patricia Schempp uttered the following

Size, though, for an international box, would have to be
somewhat smaller, especially considering disparate postage
rates in Europe.

But for an international box, that might end up back with Todd,
place inside a tiny, lightweight souvenir of the country the
box had visited, such as an unused, special issue postage
stamp or something. As well as being a Lego exchange, it could
end up as a mini-cultural exchange of sorts.
--


What if the box was occassionally "hand carried" to Europe by one of the
LUGNET faithful that is going across.  It could be "delivered" to a primary
contact who would then pick up the responsibility to The return trip could
be handled the same way.  There seems to be a few people going back and
forth so given a little notice this might save a few bucks.  Once the box is
in Europe, is shipping between European countries expensive as well?

Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://members.tripod.com/mike_walsh


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Like Larry, I may be able to offer courier services as well.  However,
bringing a box to me at an airport may be more hassle than it's worth if it
only costs $3.30  to send it priority mail.  Especially in a place like
Chicago where it would probably cost more than $3.30 to park for 20 minutes.

However, places I go to on a fairly regular basis (typically four or more
times a year) include Dallas, Portland, Orlando, Newark, and Lynchburg (VA).
Places I go on a less frequent basis (twice a year) include San Jose,
Boston, Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale, and Stockholm.  When traveling west I almost
always connect in Chicago and when going to Europe I usually connect in
London.

Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://memberts.tripod.com/mike_walsh

Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <37837F5D.4DEBAB46@voyager.net>...
As I said in a spawned thread.. with some planning I can get a box moved
from one region of the country to another for nothing. If it's small
enough.

Chris, where are you, I am going to be in Springfield MO for a few hours
on Monday.


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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:
Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got
a box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.
[...big snip!...]

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Patricia Schempp writes:
Aw...please can you mix it up?  you don't have to sort.  how hard would
it be to mix it up randomly?  Just dump the pieces on the floor and go
nuts!  :)

I'm jealous.  I'd love to mix that many pieces up and undo all the
stress of sorting.  Oh well.

Hehheh...  OK, maybe I'll mix up _some_ of it, if it's quick & easy.
There's a bag of a couple dozen white & red classic space minifigs, for
example -- those could happily be scattered among different bags; those
came in zillions of different sets.  But things like the classic red 70's
windows -- I'd never have a clear conscience if those didn't stay together.

--Todd


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd


Aw...please can you mix it up?  you don't have to sort.  how hard would it be to
mix it up randomly?  Just dump the pieces on the floor and go nuts!  :)

I'm jealous.  I'd love to mix that many pieces up and undo all the stress of
sorting.
Oh well.

patricia schempp


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:

Hehheh...  OK, maybe I'll mix up _some_ of it, if it's quick & easy.
There's a bag of a couple dozen white & red classic space minifigs, for
example -- those could happily be scattered among different bags; those
came in zillions of different sets.  But things like the classic red 70's
windows -- I'd never have a clear conscience if those didn't stay together.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:

Hehheh...  OK, maybe I'll mix up _some_ of it, if it's quick & easy.
There's a bag of a couple dozen white & red classic space minifigs, for
example -- those could happily be scattered among different bags; those
came in zillions of different sets.  But things like the classic red 70's
windows -- I'd never have a clear conscience if those didn't stay together.

--Todd

Ok, put me in the queue


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Whoa, you have 70s red windows that you consider unusuable??? Yeesh,
auction them off. I pay top dollar for those. Sure, put some into the
box, yes, but if you have a whole gallon ziplock of red windows that's
worth several hundred dollars to me, even used.

Same with the trees, there are folks that will pay handsomely for used
trees.

Todd Lehman wrote:

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
Whoa, you have 70s red windows that you consider unusuable??? Yeesh,
auction them off. I pay top dollar for those. Sure, put some into the
box, yes, but if you have a whole gallon ziplock of red windows that's
worth several hundred dollars to me, even used.

Same with the trees, there are folks that will pay handsomely for used
trees.

Yeah, trees.  Trees are good.  I want in on that.

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:36:57 GMT, "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:

Hehheh...  OK, maybe I'll mix up _some_ of it, if it's quick & easy.
There's a bag of a couple dozen white & red classic space minifigs, for
example -- those could happily be scattered among different bags; those
came in zillions of different sets.  But things like the classic red 70's
windows -- I'd never have a clear conscience if those didn't stay together.

For the windows, you should just skip the general-circulation box, and send
them directly to Gary Istok.

For other bags, you might mix them by cutting (so to speak) the bags in
half, and mixing the half-lots in with other half-lots.  That would provide
some balance between sorting and variety.

Steve


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Mike Stanley wrote:

Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
Whoa, you have 70s red windows that you consider unusuable??? Yeesh,
auction them off. I pay top dollar for those. Sure, put some into the
box, yes, but if you have a whole gallon ziplock of red windows that's
worth several hundred dollars to me, even used.

Same with the trees, there are folks that will pay handsomely for used
trees.

Yeah, trees.  Trees are good.  I want in on that.

I'd have to agree with both of these. I'd love to get my hands on a
bunch of classic windows, don't know if I value them as much as Larry
and Garry though, so maybe I should vote for keeping them in a trade
bag, if there is a rule you can't take the whole bag... Sureley there
would still be some windows left by the time the bag got to me...

--
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Completely cool idea! Sign me up. I have to weigh in on this sorted
bags issue however. I too would love to acquire large quantities of
classic windows and other specific pieces. But if when the boxes start
out all of the windows are in box A and I'm 6th on the list to get that
box, what are the odds there will by *any* left by the time they get to
me. By then it will be a random assortment of pieces, heavy in whatever
theme(s) the last recipient was unloading and light in what they were
taking. So why not start them that way? Signing up for a specific box
could actually be counter productive since it would encourage people
with similar taste in parts to be in the same queue.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you have a large collection of a certain
type of piece and would hate to see it broken up, maybe it doesn't belong
in the trade boxes. Auction them, sell them, trade them, whatever, but
IMO the trade boxes will work best when they contain a wide variety of
pieces.

Frank, in what to me looked like a rather despairing tone :-), mentioned
a possible rule limiting what percentage of the pieces one person could
take. Okay, he just said "a rule you can't take the whole bag..." but
I'm sure someone will get more specific. Again, defeats the purpose, IMO,
and quite cruel to boot. Can you imagine getting a whole box of piece X,
which you've hunted for and coveted for years, and being told you can
only keep 10 of them but if the box makes it back around to you in a few
months and if there are any left you can have 10 more? Ouch!

Doug


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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What Doug said... either put the windows up for auction, they are highly
prized by large numbers, or spread them around to lots of boxes, or just
sell them outright to me. I promise to pay a lot, then share with other
townies for what I paid. :-)

I thought this was supposed to be a way to get rid of stuff that was
marginally useful (highly prized by SOMEBODY, but not you) not a way to
distribute very valuable pieces in a way that just gets people stirred
up.

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Whoa, you have 70s red windows that you consider unusuable??? Yeesh,
auction them off. I pay top dollar for those. Sure, put some into the
box, yes, but if you have a whole gallon ziplock of red windows that's
worth several hundred dollars to me, even used.

Same with the trees, there are folks that will pay handsomely for used
trees.


If the trees bag is that big why not split it in 3 or 4 so many guy can have a
share.

Martin

<snip a lot>
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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Doug Finney writes:
[...] I have to weigh in on this sorted
bags issue however. I too would love to acquire large quantities of
classic windows and other specific pieces. But if when the boxes start
out all of the windows are in box A and I'm 6th on the list to get that
box, what are the odds there will by *any* left by the time they get to
me.

I'm sure the odds would be zero.  Anyone who wants any old windows would
want all the old windows.


By then it will be a random assortment of pieces, heavy in whatever
theme(s) the last recipient was unloading and light in what they were
taking. So why not start them that way?  [...]

I don't want it on my conscience to have separated a small collection of
old classic windows.  If someone else wants to do that, fine by me.  :)


I guess what I'm saying is, if you have a large collection of a certain
type of piece and would hate to see it broken up, maybe it doesn't belong
in the trade boxes. Auction them, sell them, trade them, whatever, but
IMO the trade boxes will work best when they contain a wide variety of
pieces.

OK, maybe that's worth doing for the windows.  (Larry suggested this too.)

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Doug Finney writes:
[...] I have to weigh in on this sorted
bags issue however. I too would love to acquire large quantities of
classic windows and other specific pieces. But if when the boxes start
out all of the windows are in box A and I'm 6th on the list to get that
box, what are the odds there will by *any* left by the time they get to
me.

<snip>
--Todd

does it mean we have to take number?

I'm in for the trees

Martin
<snip>
--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Martin Legault writes:
does it mean we have to take number?
I'm in for the trees

I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this much
demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the whole lot
off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.

Sure. I can get several boxes started in various directions easily. I'll
be in boston the week of the 19th and I'll even make an exception to my
"no check" rule, put all the bits in my carryon, and check my clothes
(which can't get hurt as easily....)

I dunno.
Maybe when Suzanne gets back, she'll even want the windows for herself,
I dunno.

When I started the thread, I hadn't yet dug the box out of the closet and
done an inspection of what was in it, so I didn't even know there were old
windows.  (The box was packed away several years ago.)

Let's wait until we get some photos up (I don't have the camera right now)
and can talk more about it next week.

--Todd

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Martin Legault writes:
does it mean we have to take number?
I'm in for the trees

I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this much
demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the whole lot
off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.  I dunno.
Maybe when Suzanne gets back, she'll even want the windows for herself,
I dunno.

When I started the thread, I hadn't yet dug the box out of the closet and
done an inspection of what was in it, so I didn't even know there were old
windows.  (The box was packed away several years ago.)

Let's wait until we get some photos up (I don't have the camera right now)
and can talk more about it next week.

--Todd


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this much
demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the whole lot
off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.  I dunno.
Maybe when Suzanne gets back, she'll even want the windows for herself,
I dunno.

I think your discovering the box to be a) much larger and b) more sorted
than you originally thought has affected the whole concept in a major way.
What started as a mish-mash of maybe 1000 random elements from who-knows-
what themes has become 16 pounds, partially sorted with pictures forthcoming.

It was that "gamble on a grab-bag" aspect of your initial post that first
piqued my interest. Of course, the contents of the bags will probably be
a random mish-mash one or two people down the line regardless of their
contents when you first ship them off to Larry or whoever so it's probably
a moot point anyway. :-)

In any event, count me in. Still sounds like fun to me.

Doug


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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Todd Lehman wrote:
I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this much
demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the whole lot
off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.  I dunno.

Why not just scoop a handful out of each bag and get the ball rolling?

Like I said earlier, Suzanne is away at a conference, and she has the camera
with her.  I want to upload some quick photos of these bags of pieces before
taking names on who to start them off with.  Suzanne might also want to pick
out a couple things, for all I know.  This mix of LEGO has been packed away
for quite some time.


[...]
What is the role that these pictures will play?  What do they matter?
How (and who) will they help?

There will be N bags and N photos, with N people receiving the packages.
(N is probably 5.)  I want to at least approximately match up the initial
boxes with people who could use them the most.  For example, sending a bag
of old 70's wheels & axles to someone who's a Castle-head won't do as much
good as sending a bag of old Castle parts to a Castle-head.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this much
demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the whole lot
off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.  I dunno.

Why not just scoop a handful out of each bag and get the ball rolling?

Maybe when Suzanne gets back, she'll even want the windows for herself,
I dunno.

That would solve the windows issue, I guess.

When I started the thread, I hadn't yet dug the box out of the closet and
done an inspection of what was in it, so I didn't even know there were old
windows.  (The box was packed away several years ago.)

So don't use them, use other stuff.

Let's wait until we get some photos up (I don't have the camera right now)
and can talk more about it next week.

What is the role that these pictures will play?  What do they matter?
How (and who) will they help?

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA


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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
I don't know how I'm going to handle this yet.  I never expected this
much demand/enthusiasm about all the stuff.  Maybe I'll just ship the
whole lot off to Larry (if he wants) and he can spread the wealth around.

Sure. I can get several boxes started in various directions easily. I'll
be in boston the week of the 19th and I'll even make an exception to my
"no check" rule, put all the bits in my carryon, and check my clothes
(which can't get hurt as easily....)

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

--Todd


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

Sounds like a plan, Stan. I fly in Sunday, out Friday bound for MPLS.

I even promise not to take too many of the windows or trees. Hm... gotta
plan what to bring for input fodder.  A couple Trans yellow 1x4x3
thinwalls, a couple white train windows, some Royal Kings (to get Doyle
excited), an Air Tank (to make Harro salivate), a fiber optic unit, some
1.2x6 train railings, some orange bricks (to get John Neal all worked
up) an astronaut gold visor... this might be fun!

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
There will be N bags and N photos, with N people receiving the packages.
(N is probably 5.)  I want to at least approximately match up the initial
boxes with people who could use them the most.  For example, sending a bag
of old 70's wheels & axles to someone who's a Castle-head won't do as much
good as sending a bag of old Castle parts to a Castle-head.

Yeah, speaking as a Castle-head, I'd much rather have a bag of old
Castle parts.

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They aren't the only ones that are salivating... Can I have the box
next???
Larry on your way to MPLS make a stop in Milw please???? it's on the
way!! Honest :) or just drop it out the window as you go over??
I'd even be nice and toss in a couple of whole poly bags I've got
sitting here... besides a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I would easily
find in my 5 gal bucket of "seldom" used parts...
I do believe this is going to be fun to see just what some people have
no use for.. Like they always say, someones garbage is someone else's
treasure :)

Tamy

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

Sounds like a plan, Stan. I fly in Sunday, out Friday bound for MPLS.

I even promise not to take too many of the windows or trees. Hm... gotta
plan what to bring for input fodder.  A couple Trans yellow 1x4x3
thinwalls, a couple white train windows, some Royal Kings (to get Doyle
excited), an Air Tank (to make Harro salivate), a fiber optic unit, some
1.2x6 train railings, some orange bricks (to get John Neal all worked
up) an astronaut gold visor... this might be fun!

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Doug Finney writes:
snip<
I think your discovering the box to be a) much larger and b) more sorted
than you originally thought has affected the whole concept in a major way.
What started as a mish-mash of maybe 1000 random elements from who-knows-
what themes has become 16 pounds, partially sorted with pictures forthcoming.

It was that "gamble on a grab-bag" aspect of your initial post that first
piqued my interest. Of course, the contents of the bags will probably be
a random mish-mash one or two people down the line regardless of their
contents when you first ship them off to Larry or whoever so it's probably
a moot point anyway. :-)

In any event, count me in. Still sounds like fun to me.

Doug
I agree with Doug. I really like the idea of a half dozen or so "Mystery
Boxes" circulating among the LUGNETeers... kind of like getting a lot of
quality garage sale stuff to pick through. If it turns into the kind of
thing where a TOWNie is EXPECTING to get a bunch of round trees, classic
windows or some other sought after element because of foreknowledge of
the packages' contents then it isn't fun anymore. That's what WTT/WTB
lists on your personal web page are for.
Also, don't make the boxes too big... keep the contents under 2 pounds
so everyone can ship for fixed rate via USPS 2# Priority Mailer boxes,
otherwise shipping will be a hassle and turnaround times will start to
stretch. You receive the box, pick the parts you want out of the gallon
ziplocks, replace with your parts, put in a free mailer from the post
office, pay your $3.20 and send it on the way to the next destination.
While I'm at it, if it isn't too much trouble, what are the chances of a
newsgroup for stories from recipients of the box(es)? Maybe something
like lugnet.market.mysterybox'o'fun  :)
Just my two bricks worth... and sign me up!
--
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Larry,

I have a more novel idea:  how about starting the box out with people who have
nobody to trade with.  Out here in Fresno, it is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to
drive to the nearest other AFOL.  No Lego in garage sales, swap meets or
antique stores.  My only source for Lego outside of TRU is eBay and Lugnet.
And I am also salivating over the old windows.  I would gladly get rid of my
classic space, castle and pirate stuff for them.

If anyone has train items or classic windows/doors and doesn't want to wait, I
would be more than happy to trade.

Mike

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Tamyra Teed ("Mookie") writes:
They aren't the only ones that are salivating... Can I have the box
next???
Larry on your way to MPLS make a stop in Milw please???? it's on the
way!! Honest :) or just drop it out the window as you go over??
I'd even be nice and toss in a couple of whole poly bags I've got
sitting here... besides a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I would easily
find in my 5 gal bucket of "seldom" used parts...
I do believe this is going to be fun to see just what some people have
no use for.. Like they always say, someones garbage is someone else's
treasure :)

Tamy

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

Sounds like a plan, Stan. I fly in Sunday, out Friday bound for MPLS.

I even promise not to take too many of the windows or trees. Hm... gotta
plan what to bring for input fodder.  A couple Trans yellow 1x4x3
thinwalls, a couple white train windows, some Royal Kings (to get Doyle
excited), an Air Tank (to make Harro salivate), a fiber optic unit, some
1.2x6 train railings, some orange bricks (to get John Neal all worked
up) an astronaut gold visor... this might be fun!

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Mike Stanley writes:
Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
There will be N bags and N photos, with N people receiving the packages.
(N is probably 5.)  I want to at least approximately match up the initial
boxes with people who could use them the most.  For example, sending a bag
of old 70's wheels & axles to someone who's a Castle-head won't do as much
good as sending a bag of old Castle parts to a Castle-head.

Yeah, speaking as a Castle-head, I'd much rather have a bag of old
Castle parts.

I'm interesting in seeing what's available. Am I going up against the "heavy
hitters" here? :-)  I won't want much (cuz I can't buy much ATM)

The parts you want without a bunch of crap?

lol  Nice SIG! It's you.

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

--Todd

Can this project have a newsgroup?  Can boxes that people send out have
a serial number?  Can we post to this hypothetical ng like subj= "123:
Columbia MO" and text can indicate what ever I want?  This could spawn
off a whole sub-hobby.

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.mi.grr, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp, lugnet.loc.uk
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

There is talk of spawning a whole newsgroup for this activity, which I
think would be swell.

Till then, lets coordinate in Lugnet.general

Looks like I will be bringing the whole lot back with me from Boston,
unless there is a change in circumstance.

I would like to hand one off to someone in the Boston area sometime
around the 21st, 22nd while I am there... Contact me if you could take
one on and see to it that it gets circulated around a bit.

I plan to hand one off to someone in MN while I am at the NMRA show,
(23-25 July)( contact me if you want to be one of the ones taking it on.
Maybe I can twist Conan's arm and get him to put some of his "junk" into
one.

I would like to hand one off to someone in MI after I get back from
Minneapolis (after the 26th). Again, contact me.

That should leave at least 2 boxes if I'm reading the quantities right,
which can be spawned elsewhere... perhaps one in England? Again, contact
me.

How about one down here in the south east (NC, VA, etc)?

--
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Date: 
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There is talk of spawning a whole newsgroup for this activity, which I
think would be swell.

Till then, lets coordinate in Lugnet.general

Looks like I will be bringing the whole lot back with me from Boston,
unless there is a change in circumstance.

I would like to hand one off to someone in the Boston area sometime
around the 21st, 22nd while I am there... Contact me if you could take
one on and see to it that it gets circulated around a bit.

I plan to hand one off to someone in MN while I am at the NMRA show,
(23-25 July)( contact me if you want to be one of the ones taking it on.
Maybe I can twist Conan's arm and get him to put some of his "junk" into
one.

I would like to hand one off to someone in MI after I get back from
Minneapolis (after the 26th). Again, contact me.

That should leave at least 2 boxes if I'm reading the quantities right,
which can be spawned elsewhere... perhaps one in England? Again, contact
me.

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:41:35 GMT
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On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:11:22 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:


And perhaps in some areas the box can be passed around person to person.  For
example, there are many Lego Maniacs in the Detroit/Ann Arbor area .... I can
get what I want out of the box and then hand it to Scott Sandburn of Ann Arbor
(who will probably want to check it out immediately after me anyway) or Mark
Koesel or others in the area, and then it can get sent to someone in another
city.

Gary Istok

Hehe, I'd DRIVE to Michigan to get the box after you. :)
I too would love to try this out.  I too have a BUNCH of unwanted
pieces, from tires and windshields to minifigs and accessories.

Rob



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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Yep, I agree with Larry.  I'd buy them too.   If I got the travelling box with them
in it, I'd probably end up taking lots of them, and in my guilt/shame I'd replace
them with those highly desireable 2x2 regular inverse slope outside corner bricks
(black, white, red, grey) which I seem to have quite a few of.

Gary Istok

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Whoa, you have 70s red windows that you consider unusuable??? Yeesh,
auction them off. I pay top dollar for those. Sure, put some into the
box, yes, but if you have a whole gallon ziplock of red windows that's
worth several hundred dollars to me, even used.

Same with the trees, there are folks that will pay handsomely for used
trees.

Todd Lehman wrote:

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:58:46 GMT
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Steve Bliss wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:36:57 GMT, "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:

Hehheh...  OK, maybe I'll mix up _some_ of it, if it's quick & easy.
There's a bag of a couple dozen white & red classic space minifigs, for
example -- those could happily be scattered among different bags; those
came in zillions of different sets.  But things like the classic red 70's
windows -- I'd never have a clear conscience if those didn't stay together.

For the windows, you should just skip the general-circulation box, and send
them directly to Gary Istok.

For other bags, you might mix them by cutting (so to speak) the bags in
half, and mixing the half-lots in with other half-lots.  That would provide
some balance between sorting and variety.

Steve

Steve has the right idea, I would probably replace them with tiles, arches, some
steep sloped bricks,  the 2x2 regular inverse sloped corner bricks, etc.
Nothing shakes the rare stuff out of my inventory faster than classic windows.

No wait ......(suddenly hit with a pang of guilt).  Maybe other people should be
given a chance at the classic windows first.  After all I got a 20 year head
start on collecting them.

Todd, just do what you feel is fair.

Gary Istok


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Gee Larry, doesn't Northwest usually fly from Boston thru their major hub -
Detroit Metro Airport .... the one I drive past every day (hint hint) on my way to
Ann Arbor.  (heh-heh - just kidding).

Gary Istok

Mookie wrote:

They aren't the only ones that are salivating... Can I have the box
next???
Larry on your way to MPLS make a stop in Milw please???? it's on the
way!! Honest :) or just drop it out the window as you go over??
I'd even be nice and toss in a couple of whole poly bags I've got
sitting here... besides a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I would easily
find in my 5 gal bucket of "seldom" used parts...
I do believe this is going to be fun to see just what some people have
no use for.. Like they always say, someones garbage is someone else's
treasure :)

Tamy

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

Sounds like a plan, Stan. I fly in Sunday, out Friday bound for MPLS.

I even promise not to take too many of the windows or trees. Hm... gotta
plan what to bring for input fodder.  A couple Trans yellow 1x4x3
thinwalls, a couple white train windows, some Royal Kings (to get Doyle
excited), an Air Tank (to make Harro salivate), a fiber optic unit, some
1.2x6 train railings, some orange bricks (to get John Neal all worked
up) an astronaut gold visor... this might be fun!

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
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I LOVE boxtrot. Let's get a group asap as the posts are spread all
over... Forget the mail part as it's not a given that boxes will move
via mail. Actually it's not a given that the pieces will move in boxes.

So I vote for mixorama. or boxtrot, what I just said notwithstanding.

Tom McDonald wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Can this project have a newsgroup?

Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxmixer
  .market.boxtrot
lol

  .market.mailathon
  .market.mailmix
  .market.mailorama
  .market.mailswap
  .market.mailtrade
  .market.mixorama
.market.mix-o-rama
        (variation, just because I like the hyphenated look with orama :)

  .market.swaporama
  .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?

.market.trailmix (sounds copyrighted though..)
.market.taplap (take a piece leave a piece)
.market.piecemail
.market.bricksalad

I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

Maybe so. It almost sounds like something done with CrackerJacks' prizes.

-Tom McD.
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:01:47 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Can this project have a newsgroup?

Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

   .market.boxmixer
   .market.boxtrot
   .market.mailathon
   .market.mailmix
   .market.mailorama
   .market.mailswap
   .market.mailtrade
   .market.mixorama
   .market.swaporama
   .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?


Can boxes that people send out have
a serial number?  Can we post to this hypothetical ng like subj= "123:
Columbia MO" and text can indicate what ever I want?

Sure, whatever works.


This could spawn off a whole sub-hobby.

I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Can this project have a newsgroup?

Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxmixer
  .market.boxtrot
lol

  .market.mailathon
  .market.mailmix
  .market.mailorama
  .market.mailswap
  .market.mailtrade
  .market.mixorama
.market.mix-o-rama
        (variation, just because I like the hyphenated look with orama :)

  .market.swaporama
  .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?

.market.trailmix (sounds copyrighted though..)
.market.taplap (take a piece leave a piece)
.market.piecemail
.market.bricksalad


I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

Maybe so. It almost sounds like something done with CrackerJacks' prizes.

-Tom McD.
when replying, please keep off the spamcake.


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:51:15 GMT
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I'm partial to .market.boxtrot  it's in a box.. and it's trotting all
over the place.. for some reason it just fits in my mind...
my 2nd vote would be for travelmix...
mailathon doesn't bring anything to mind.. mailswap and mailtrade just
seem to "normal".. and this doesn't feel like a "normal" thing
The 'rama's bring bad thoughts of jumk found at cheap "rummage 'o
rama's" run in the city here..
the rest haven't brought much to mind either...

Just my .02 slopes maybe someone else has better reasons for some of the
above??
Tamy



Todd Lehman wrote:


Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

   .market.boxmixer
   .market.boxtrot
   .market.mailathon
   .market.mailmix
   .market.mailorama
   .market.mailswap
   .market.mailtrade
   .market.mixorama
   .market.swaporama
   .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?

Can boxes that people send out have
a serial number?  Can we post to this hypothetical ng like subj= "123:
Columbia MO" and text can indicate what ever I want?

Sure, whatever works.

This could spawn off a whole sub-hobby.

I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Sat, 10 Jul 1999 03:24:26 GMT
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Boxtrot gets my vote.
Julie

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

I LOVE boxtrot. Let's get a group asap as the posts are spread all
over... Forget the mail part as it's not a given that boxes will move
via mail. Actually it's not a given that the pieces will move in boxes.

So I vote for mixorama. or boxtrot, what I just said notwithstanding.

Tom McDonald wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Can this project have a newsgroup?

Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxmixer
  .market.boxtrot
lol

  .market.mailathon
  .market.mailmix
  .market.mailorama
  .market.mailswap
  .market.mailtrade
  .market.mixorama
.market.mix-o-rama
        (variation, just because I like the hyphenated look with orama :)

  .market.swaporama
  .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?

.market.trailmix (sounds copyrighted though..)
.market.taplap (take a piece leave a piece)
.market.piecemail
.market.bricksalad

I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

Maybe so. It almost sounds like something done with CrackerJacks' prizes.

-Tom McD.
when replying, please keep off the spamcake.

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Oh-Oh kiss me...er pick me! (Been listening to Sixpence None the Richer too
much!)  Speaking of kissing, I just returned from Conan's wedding, and
apart from Conan almost setting the Chapel on fire, all went well.  The
ring bearer brought the ring down the aisle in a minichest built out of
Lego.  That's Conan:-)  My highlight was dancing with Jency during the
dollar dance; second place was dancing with Conan during the dollar dance.
J1 got pix:-)  Most of the GMLTC sat at one table and a festive time was
had by all.  We missed ya, Lar:-(

-John

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

I plan to hand one off to someone in MN while I am at the NMRA show,
(23-25 July)( contact me if you want to be one of the ones taking it on.
Maybe I can twist Conan's arm and get him to put some of his "junk" into
one.

I would like to hand one off to someone in MI after I get back from
Minneapolis (after the 26th). Again, contact me.

That should leave at least 2 boxes if I'm reading the quantities right,
which can be spawned elsewhere... perhaps one in England? Again, contact
me.

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Tom McDonald <radiotitan@yanospamhoo.com> wrote:
Yeah, speaking as a Castle-head, I'd much rather have a bag of old
Castle parts.

I'm interesting in seeing what's available. Am I going up against the "heavy
hitters" here? :-)  I won't want much (cuz I can't buy much ATM)

Heh, I doubt I qualify as a heavy hitter.  I never pay retail and I
almost never pay normal auction prices for old stuff.  I just seem to
find deals, which is a good thing, because otherwise I would never buy
anything, being a cheap bas****.

The parts you want without a bunch of crap?

lol  Nice SIG! It's you.

Thanks.  Was afraid that one might tick people off. :)

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ...

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxmixer
  .market.boxtrot
  .market.mailathon
  .market.mailmix
  .market.mailorama
  .market.mailswap
  .market.mailtrade
  .market.mixorama
  .market.swaporama
  .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?


recyclebin
swapbox
wastebasket

:-)

I wish I was living in the US.

Selçuk


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:11:57 GMT, "Christopher L. Weeks"
<c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote:

Right.  The idea of forking is really neat too.  I figure that anyone on
the list is agreeing to pony up postage for sending it on in exchange
for the right to trade with it/them.  If/when it comes to me, if it's
reasonable to add enough to cause a fork, I'll do so and then pass one
off to Europe so that someone there can get it going around...but I want
it back when it's returning to North America :-)

I love the idea.  Sounds great.  But when a box gets forked, will we be wading
through a lot of posts of people asking "where's the forking box?!"

It's late, I better go to bed.  :-)

-- Terry K --


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:41:10 GMT
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The boxtrot is okay, but somtimes I have trouble figuring out the beat;-)  All
seriousness aside, I like mix-O-rama, but capitalizing the "O":-)

-John

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

I LOVE boxtrot. Let's get a group asap as the posts are spread all
over... Forget the mail part as it's not a given that boxes will move
via mail. Actually it's not a given that the pieces will move in boxes.

So I vote for mixorama. or boxtrot, what I just said notwithstanding.

Tom McDonald wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Can this project have a newsgroup?

Sure, I don't see why not -- if there's enthusiasm toward it and if a
sensible name could be picked.  It certainly belongs in the .market.*
hierarchy as it's purely an aftermarket person(s)-to-person(s) trading
thing.

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxmixer
  .market.boxtrot
lol

  .market.mailathon
  .market.mailmix
  .market.mailorama
  .market.mailswap
  .market.mailtrade
  .market.mixorama
.market.mix-o-rama
        (variation, just because I like the hyphenated look with orama :)

  .market.swaporama
  .market.travelmix

...any of those getting close?  Other possibilities?

.market.trailmix (sounds copyrighted though..)
.market.taplap (take a piece leave a piece)
.market.piecemail
.market.bricksalad

I wonder if anything like this has ever been done before for other hobbies.
I can't help thinking that this sort of thing must already have a name.

Maybe so. It almost sounds like something done with CrackerJacks' prizes.

-Tom McD.
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:

I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...

  .market.boxtrot

LOL  I love this on three different levels

1 - it sounds like a venereal disease/urinary infection (sorry, couldn't
resists)
2 - box trot
3 - boxed rot

Yep, this one gets my vote


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
I LOVE boxtrot. Let's get a group asap as the posts are spread all
over... Forget the mail part as it's not a given that boxes will move
via mail. Actually it's not a given that the pieces will move in boxes.

So I vote for mixorama. or boxtrot, what I just said notwithstanding.

I like .market.boxtrot too because it conveys what's going on more
accurately than most of the other names.  But something more generic
might fit in better.  Note that all of the other .market names -- .auction,
.buy-sell-trade, .shipping, .shopping, .theory -- are super-generic
sounding.

"boxtrot", OTOH, sounds a bit cute -- and not that there's anything
wrong with that -- but I just did a search on AltaVista and one thing
that came up with some interesting hits.  One was a moving and storage
company called Box Trotters <http://www.boxtrotters.com/>.  There's also
a book of poetry called "Boxtrot," a hot air balloon event called the
"Balloon Boxtrot 5K Walk," a really cool animated GIF of a boxer (dog)
trotting <http://www.beaniesforless.com/josie.htm>, and heck, maybe it's
also a maneuvre that Ed Boxer does before he KOs someone.  ;-)

I don't suppose that any of these would present real problems, but seeing
as the word "boxtrot" -sounds- coined and trademarkish, it's probably a
good idea to consider if other alternatives are stronger.

The list I posted <http://www.lugnet.com/market/buy-sell-trade/?n=1865>
wasn't intended as something to pick from, but rather as an initial-
brainstorm-starting-point.

I'd feel a lot more comfortable leaning toward something like .boxtrot or
.mixorama if more possibilities were enumerated exhaustively.  I ran out of
ideas after 10 minutes.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:31:56 GMT
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What if the box was occassionally "hand carried" to Europe by one of the
LUGNET faithful that is going across.  It could be "delivered" to a primary
contact who would then pick up the responsibility to The return trip could
be handled the same way.  There seems to be a few people going back and
forth so given a little notice this might save a few bucks.  Once the box is
in Europe, is shipping between European countries expensive as well?

Not terribly expensive, but it can get comparitively expensive within
some countries, where cost of living is higher. The
US-Europe-US hand-off is a good idea, though.


Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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Todd Lehman wrote:

I'd feel a lot more comfortable leaning toward something like .boxtrot or
.mixorama if more possibilities were enumerated exhaustively.  I ran out of
ideas after 10 minutes.

I hear you, but don't forget that sometimes the best names are thought
of first, and that we have to decide how much analysis the name actually
deserves! :-)

Me, I don't think the name is nearly as important as the process, which
isn't under control yet, I don't think.

Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text
4 plural : DIARRHEA


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:29:27 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text


4 plural : DIARRHEA

As in "I'm suffering from boxtrots"? eeewwww! That's just as bad as the
example of
what Ed said it sounded like to him.

I'm liking it less and less, too many gross images.

Julie


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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How about "bootybox"?  That's slang free AFAIK;-)

Other ideas:

.Grabbin
.Brickvegnugen
.Fahrvegbricken
.BrickcitementBox
.Treasure-Drove
Traveling Mystery Brick Box (.TMBB)
SpamcakeTheater2001: A Brick Odessey (.ST2K+1)
.LSB (LUGNET Swapbox)
.GYFHOTBIGIF (Get your filthy hands off those bricks, I got it first)

.02,
John


dkrenz wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text

4 plural : DIARRHEA

As in "I'm suffering from boxtrots"? eeewwww! That's just as bad as the
example of
what Ed said it sounded like to him.

I'm liking it less and less, too many gross images.

Julie


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Sorry my comments are a little late on this subject.  Every hotel in Europe
provides it on unique set of issues when trying to get online.  It seems
like everytime I figure out the dialing sequence it is time to change hotels
again.

Anyway, my connection woes aside, I have to agree with Julie on this one.
"Box Trot", expecially when written without spaces like it would be as a
news group, conveys some images (at least to me anyway) that I can do
without.  Everytime I read it I see "Box Rot".

How about "Box Quest"?  To me the word "quest" means a journey with an
indetermite ending which is where the box(es) is (are) going.  Since I can't
look it up right now I can't verify if that is an accurate deifinition or
not.

When ever I go out on a LEGO hunt (Target, Wal-Mart, etc.) I consider it a
"LEGO Quest" as one never knows what one might find.  I typically find
myself on "LEGO Quests" when I am on the road, particularly if I go
somewhere new or somewhere I don't go often.  It sure beats hanging out in
my hotel room or the hotel bar.  Fortunatley stores in the US are open late!
This is harder for me  to do in Europe where many stores close around 6:00
PM.  This really isn't a big problem for me since my travel to Europe is
pretty infrequent (once or twice a year).

This box will be on a quest of sorts.  It has a loose plan and an
indeterminate ending.  We all hope that when it arrives on our door step
that it contains those couple of pieces that have eluded us through all of
the auctions, sales, flea markets, garage sales, etc.

I like the idea of a newsgroup or web page tracking the box.  Someone had
suggested putting some sort of log book in the box as well.  Notes on what
was taken or added and why might be simply from a curiousity stand point.
For example, I can see myself throwing in one blue thin door.  A while back
I picked up a grab bag from a thrift shop.  There were four bags and I only
bough one (I know better now).  In my bag were two right hand doors, and no
left hand doors.  I have yet to find a use for two right hand doors so one
of them could go in the box.  Someone else may be like me and have two left
hand doors.  You just never know.

I also think that tracking the box(es) on LUGNET is important for planning
as well as from a historical perspective.  If this thing works well, the
life span of this could continue on indefinitely.  I personally might like
to see it every two to three months.  It might hit 10-15 people in a two
month time frame.  The whole box could potentially turn over in that amount
of time.  There might be a blue left side thin door in it!

I find this whole idea interesting from a sociology perspective (not that I
am a sociologist, far from it, I am an Electrical Engineer).  A group of
people, most of whom don't know each other except from written text in the
form of e-mails and news postings (of course there are exceptions, some
people have actually met live), will queue up (I love this British term) to
receive a box that may potentially have absolutely nothing of value in it
for them (from their perspective).  Also, participants must commit to
spending $3-$4 (not much actually) to send it on and more importantly, some
of their time to pass it on in a timely fashion.  If you described this
concept to one of your co-workers or neighbors what do you think their
reaction would be?

Lastly, where did we end up on a set of rules?  While I believe that most of
the interested parties are on the up and up, it would only take one person
to really screw up this process, which would be unfortunate.  I still like
the idea of disallowing 1xN and 2xN bricks ascontributions and I am sure
other people have similar ideas.  A list of non-allowable parts should also
be included in the box just as a reminder.  I also think that there should
be a limit on the number of parts that could be exchanged.  While some
LUGNETeers (I saw used the other day, what do people think of this term?)
have literally thousands of "scrap" pieces, others may only have a dozen or
so.  We certainly don't want to limit this project to the "LEGO Endowed".
In fact the people who have smaller collections should probably be the
primary beneficiaries of this effort.

Thoughts?  Comments?  Disagreements?  Any feedback is welcome as these are
just my thoughts and I am by no means an authority, simply someone who wants
to participate and see this thing succeed for more than a few months.  In
fact, if it dies out before six months have past I think we as a group will
have failed.

Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://members.tripod.com/mike_walsh

dkrenz wrote in message <3787F377.7A1259ED@mc.net>...



Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text


4 plural : DIARRHEA

As in "I'm suffering from boxtrots"? eeewwww! That's just as bad as the
example of
what Ed said it sounded like to him.

I'm liking it less and less, too many gross images.

Julie


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:

I'd feel a lot more comfortable leaning toward something like .boxtrot or
.mixorama if more possibilities were enumerated exhaustively.  I ran out of
ideas after 10 minutes.

--Todd

Howabout - The Block Exchange


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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I am not real good at brainstorming but I just thought of a couple.

How about...
.lugbox
.lugbricks
.lugabs

I just thought that the box would be "lugged" around quite a bit and this is
"Lugnet".

Anyway this is my first post to this string but I have been following it and
would like to participate.  I tend to travel quite a bit.  Mostly from Boston
to Dallas-DFW about 1 week every 2 months or so.  But I do travel elseware as
well just not consitantly.

Eric

Remove the ".jawaspam" when replying by E-mail.



In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal writes:
How about "bootybox"?  That's slang free AFAIK;-)

Other ideas:

.Grabbin
.Brickvegnugen
.Fahrvegbricken
.BrickcitementBox
.Treasure-Drove
Traveling Mystery Brick Box (.TMBB)
SpamcakeTheater2001: A Brick Odessey (.ST2K+1)
.LSB (LUGNET Swapbox)
.GYFHOTBIGIF (Get your filthy hands off those bricks, I got it first)

.02,
John


dkrenz wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text

4 plural : DIARRHEA

As in "I'm suffering from boxtrots"? eeewwww! That's just as bad as the
example of
what Ed said it sounded like to him.

I'm liking it less and less, too many gross images.

Julie


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general
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Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:32:22 GMT
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Richard Dee wrote in message ...

What if the box was occassionally "hand carried" to Europe by one of the
LUGNET faithful that is going across.  It could be "delivered" to a • primary
contact who would then pick up the responsibility to The return trip • could
be handled the same way.  There seems to be a few people going back and
forth so given a little notice this might save a few bucks.  Once the box • is
in Europe, is shipping between European countries expensive as well?

Not terribly expensive, but it can get comparitively expensive within
some countries, where cost of living is higher. The
US-Europe-US hand-off is a good idea, though.



If we can get this project off the ground I will volunteer to courier it to
Europe on it's first journey.

I will be going back to Stockholm again at the end of August.  Right now my
plan is to leave North Carolina on August 21st connecting in London on
August 22nd and then into Stockholm later in the day.  I will be connecting
via Gatwick this time so if there is a box that we want to try and get to
Europe, I can take it to either London (if someone will come pick it up at
the airport) or to Stockholm where someone could get it from where ever I am
staying (which I don't happen to know off the top of my head but likely will
be either down town or out in Kista).

I think we will need a European volunteer to coordinate the effort in Europe
sort of like what Larry P. is doing in the US.  After August I don't have
any more trips planned but there is a very small chance that I will go back
in October.

Mike - mike_walsh@mentorg.com
http://members.tripod.com/mike_walsh


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
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John Neal wrote in message <378836C1.341000B9@uswest.net>...
How about "bootybox"?  That's slang free AFAIK;-)


Well, booty isn't totally slang free. Shaking your booty has nothing to do
with trying determine whether that package under the Christmas tree is the
latest town junior set, or a Metroliner you wife found at Goodwill...

Frank


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman wrote:

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

I certainly don't have any issues if that were the case. :-)

But I see where others have found other pejorative connotations, so we
can skip that one if you want. I'm about to go very offline for a few
days, sales trip, so... just pick something you like would be my
advocacy. Like I said, process consensus is more important than name
consensus

But when we get back I'll be scrambling to try to get things organized
so I hope the group is named and operational by Wednesday or things will
be a little tight for the weekend after next when I am in MPLS.

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Here's a name for consideration:

.travelingbob  (.travelingbobs?)

bob = box of bricks

I already think of this box as having a life of its own, why not give it
a true name?

"bob was at my house today, I took some white fences and sent him on his
way with some
white arches"
Julie

Eric Kingsley wrote:

I am not real good at brainstorming but I just thought of a couple.

How about...
.lugbox
.lugbricks
.lugabs

I just thought that the box would be "lugged" around quite a bit and this is
"Lugnet".

Anyway this is my first post to this string but I have been following it and
would like to participate.  I tend to travel quite a bit.  Mostly from Boston
to Dallas-DFW about 1 week every 2 months or so.  But I do travel elseware as
well just not consitantly.

Eric

Remove the ".jawaspam" when replying by E-mail.

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal writes:
How about "bootybox"?  That's slang free AFAIK;-)

Other ideas:

.Grabbin
.Brickvegnugen
.Fahrvegbricken
.BrickcitementBox
.Treasure-Drove
Traveling Mystery Brick Box (.TMBB)
SpamcakeTheater2001: A Brick Odessey (.ST2K+1)
.LSB (LUGNET Swapbox)
.GYFHOTBIGIF (Get your filthy hands off those bricks, I got it first)

.02,
John


dkrenz wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
[...]
Call it Boxtrot and let's get the group up.

Let's make sure that it's not some twisted slang word for a lap dance or
something like that first.

--Todd

p.s.  Here's what Merriam-Webster online <www.m-w.com> says for "trot":

Main Entry: 1 trot
Pronunciation: 'trät
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from troter to trot, of
   Germanic origin; akin to Old High German trottOn to tread, Old English
   tredan
Date: 14th century
1 (a1): a moderately fast gait of a quadruped (as a horse) in which the
  legs move in diagonal pairs  (a2): a jogging gait of a human that falls
  between a walk and a run   (b): a ride on horseback
2 : an old woman
3 : a literal translation of a foreign text

4 plural : DIARRHEA

As in "I'm suffering from boxtrots"? eeewwww! That's just as bad as the
example of
what Ed said it sounded like to him.

I'm liking it less and less, too many gross images.

Julie


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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I love krenZILLA's idea of personalizing it by naming it Bob.  And I like Ben's lug/Lugnet
play, too.  I vote for "LugBob"

-John

dkrenz wrote:bob = box of bricks


I already think of this box as having a life of its own, why not give it
a true name?

"bob was at my house today, I took some white fences and sent him on his
way with some
white arches"
Julie

Eric Kingsley wrote:


I just thought that the box would be "lugged" around quite a bit and this is
"Lugnet".


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Here's a cool (IMHO), english word that may apply and satisfies the need
for a pun:

bricolage

Main Entry: bri·co·lage
Pronunciation: "brE-kO-'läzh, "bri-
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from bricoler to putter about
Date: 1966
: construction or something constructed by using whatever comes to hand

-- dave


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...
[...snip...]

OK, all of those were too cute or trite...  But I'm excited now --
I just thought of a not-too-obscure word whose second meaning (according
to Merriam-Webster) goes:

   a mixture of diverse elements

and which also evokes visions of a related word which means

   to mix into a confused or disordered mass

in its verb form and

   a mass of things mingled together without order or plan

in its noun form.

--Todd


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
I just thought of a not-too-obscure word whose second meaning (according
to Merriam-Webster) goes:
  a mixture of diverse elements
and which also evokes visions of a related word which means
  to mix into a confused or disordered mass

Second word is 'jumble'.

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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And did you want to tell us what this wonderful word IS?? :-)

Todd Lehman wrote:
I just thought of a not-too-obscure word

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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If it's the word I found, it was pretty obscure to me.  But it has some
not-at-all-obscure negative variants.

Steve

On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:40:02 GMT, "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
I'll toss out a few random ideas off the top of my head...
[...snip...]

OK, all of those were too cute or trite...  But I'm excited now --
I just thought of a not-too-obscure word whose second meaning (according
to Merriam-Webster) goes:

  a mixture of diverse elements

and which also evokes visions of a related word which means

  to mix into a confused or disordered mass

in its verb form and

  a mass of things mingled together without order or plan

in its noun form.

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
And did you want to tell us what this wonderful word IS?? :-)

jumble & jambalaya

--Todd


From www.m-w.com...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Main Entry: jam·ba·laya
Pronunciation: "j&m-b&-'lI-&
Function: noun
Etymology: Louisiana French, from Provençal jambalaia
Date: 1872
1 : rice cooked usually with ham, sausage, chicken, shrimp, or oysters
    and seasoned with herbs
2 : a mixture of diverse elements  <curious jambalayas of competing
    elements -- Neil Hickey>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Main Entry: ¹jum·ble
Pronunciation: 'j&m-b&l
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): jum·bled; jum·bling /-b(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: perhaps imitative
Date: circa 1529
intransitive senses : to move in a confused or disordered manner
transitive senses : to mix into a confused or disordered mass -- often used
   with up
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Main Entry: ²jumble
Function: noun
Date: 1661
1 a : a mass of things mingled together without order or plan : HODGEPODGE
  b : a state of confusion
2 British : articles for a rummage sale
----------------------------------------------------------------------------


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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
And did you want to tell us what this wonderful word IS?? :-)

jumble & jambalaya
[...snip...]

Any objections then to  lugnet.market.jambalaya ?

It would sort in the raw newsgroups list like so:

   lugnet.market.auction
   lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
   lugnet.market.jambalaya
   lugnet.market.shipping
   lugnet.market.shopping
   lugnet.market.theory

and it would show up on the <http://www.lugnet.com/market/> webpage like so:

   Marketplace /
       Auctions          Jambalaya      Shopping
       Buy/Sell/Trade    Shipping       Theory

I like it because it's a word with the right amount of pizazz, it's not
overly obscure, and it even means the right thing.

--Todd


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I just wanted it created. Agree it's important the name have meaning but
no longer care specifically.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:57:01 GMT, "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
And did you want to tell us what this wonderful word IS?? :-)

jumble & jambalaya

OK, that wasn't the word I had come across (good thing, too!).

Steve


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Add me to the queue.

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:
Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got
a box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.
[...big snip!...]

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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I tend to agree with Mike on this - I do no trading except through online
contacts.  And my needs are specific to vehicle parts, so I would hardly dent the
boags/boxes, while I could probably add some decent stuff that is of no use to me.

Mike Poindexter wrote:

Larry,

I have a more novel idea:  how about starting the box out with people who have
nobody to trade with.  Out here in Fresno, it is about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to
drive to the nearest other AFOL.  No Lego in garage sales, swap meets or
antique stores.  My only source for Lego outside of TRU is eBay and Lugnet.
And I am also salivating over the old windows.  I would gladly get rid of my
classic space, castle and pirate stuff for them.

If anyone has train items or classic windows/doors and doesn't want to wait, I
would be more than happy to trade.

Mike

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Tamyra Teed ("Mookie") writes:
They aren't the only ones that are salivating... Can I have the box
next???
Larry on your way to MPLS make a stop in Milw please???? it's on the
way!! Honest :) or just drop it out the window as you go over??
I'd even be nice and toss in a couple of whole poly bags I've got
sitting here... besides a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I would easily
find in my 5 gal bucket of "seldom" used parts...
I do believe this is going to be fun to see just what some people have
no use for.. Like they always say, someones garbage is someone else's
treasure :)

Tamy

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Todd Lehman wrote:

Ahh, that would be splendid.  We could just meet for suds or pizza or food
or coffee somewhere and it that could be end of it from my p.o.v.  :)

Sounds like a plan, Stan. I fly in Sunday, out Friday bound for MPLS.

I even promise not to take too many of the windows or trees. Hm... gotta
plan what to bring for input fodder.  A couple Trans yellow 1x4x3
thinwalls, a couple white train windows, some Royal Kings (to get Doyle
excited), an Air Tank (to make Harro salivate), a fiber optic unit, some
1.2x6 train railings, some orange bricks (to get John Neal all worked
up) an astronaut gold visor... this might be fun!

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Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
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I just had a ring of the doorbell and found a U.S. priority mail box sitting on the
front step.

At first, after giving it a shake, heard the familiar sound of a lego rattle, and
thought "I didn't order anything in the last week from an auction".

Then upon opening the box, found a mix and match (jambalaya) of parts that reminded
me of a garage sale bin.

I asked my wife if she ordered anything for me as a surprise.  No.

I looked at the return address and saw it postmarked from Burlington, Ma.
I don't know anyone from Burlington.

Then I thought that someone must have had my name and address mixed-up with someone
who must have paid for an auction prize and it was shipped to me by mistake.

Then I remembered asking Todd to put me on the list for TAPLAP.

Can this be????

With so many messages, I must have missed one that said it started.

I've tried to go back through all of the original thread and then to this group,
but I'm not sure where I send it next and waht the final "rule" were that everyone
decided on.

Is there a list with names / addresses?
I thought we discussed putting a log or diary in the box, but I didn't find
anything.
Is there a website?

Sorry for the long message and the wonderful surprise; whoever it was that sent
this to me.

What do I do next?

-Phil Watt - Los Gatos, Ca.



Tom Stangl wrote:

Add me to the queue.

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:
Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got
a box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.
[...big snip!...]

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...

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Subject: 
Re: take a piece, leave a piece -- traveling box of LEGO
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.market.jambalaya
Followup-To: 
lugnet.market.jambalaya
Date: 
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For closure.

It was me. I mailed this box to Phil. Burlington is where Novera HQ is
and that is where I happened to be at the time.

Phil now knows what is going on and has posted the appropriate messages
to lugnet.market.jambalaya. I have pointed followups there.

If you want in on this or any other Jambalaya box now started, post a
message as a direct followup to the append that announced it's
availabilty, copy Mookie and watch her website to see where you are in
the ordering list.

(all starter messages have something like "xxx box #n" in their subject
and all but one as of this writing have been started by me.)

Phil Watt wrote:

I just had a ring of the doorbell and found a U.S. priority mail box sitting on the
front step.

At first, after giving it a shake, heard the familiar sound of a lego rattle, and
thought "I didn't order anything in the last week from an auction".

Then upon opening the box, found a mix and match (jambalaya) of parts that reminded
me of a garage sale bin.

I asked my wife if she ordered anything for me as a surprise.  No.

I looked at the return address and saw it postmarked from Burlington, Ma.
I don't know anyone from Burlington.

Then I thought that someone must have had my name and address mixed-up with someone
who must have paid for an auction prize and it was shipped to me by mistake.

Then I remembered asking Todd to put me on the list for TAPLAP.

Can this be????

With so many messages, I must have missed one that said it started.

I've tried to go back through all of the original thread and then to this group,
but I'm not sure where I send it next and waht the final "rule" were that everyone
decided on.

Is there a list with names / addresses?
I thought we discussed putting a log or diary in the box, but I didn't find
anything.
Is there a website?

Sorry for the long message and the wonderful surprise; whoever it was that sent
this to me.

What do I do next?

-Phil Watt - Los Gatos, Ca.

Tom Stangl wrote:

Add me to the queue.

Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:
Here's an idea I've been itching to try out for about 4 years...  I've got
a box of several hundred (or maybe 1000 or more, I haven't counted) LEGO
elements that I know I'll never use.  These come from buying up large
collections at garage sales or on the net, in order to get a few sets I
wanted for my Space collection, but there was always stuff left over.
[...big snip!...]

Zoinks!  I just dug the box out of the closet, and it's more than I'd
remembered.  There's 16 pounds of LEGO semi-sorted into about two or three
dozen ZipLoc bags of varying sizes (from a pint up through two-gallon).

At first blush, this complicates things, because now instead of one big mix
there are several big less-mixes.  But let's forget that and just say that
this is good like it is, because now there's definitely plenty of fodder for
several packages (at least 5, I should think), and I wouldn't want to mix
stuff together that's already semi-sorted.

Suzanne is away this week at a trade conference and has the camera, so when
she gets back I'll snap some photos of the LEGO and take queue requests.
Mostly, it's mixes of 70's & 80's stuff -- a bag classic red 70's windows
(many sizes), a bag of town and space and castle parts, a bag of minifigs,
a bag of trees, a bag of old gears, a bag of old wheels, a couple bags of
generic bricks, etc.  Too much stuff to list; photos will work better.

I'm not going to sort any of it into sub-bags; I'll probably actually combine
a few bags so that it works out to 5 or 6 roughtly equally sized packages to
mail.  Fair enough?

--Todd

p.s.  This is straying off-topic from the spirit of .general at this point
and into the spirit of a person-to-person "trade" type of thing, so follow-
ups on this article are set to .market.buy-sell.trade (stay tuned there for
more details)...

--
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|      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer

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