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  BrainStorm version 1.0 available
 
BrainStorm version 1.0 released. Brainstorm is a version of the LOGO programming language with added commands and functionality to control Lego MindStorms spirit.ocx. The new commands can be used to write Programs for download as well as giving (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  FW: Mindstorms/reinforcement learning
 
-----Original Message----- From: Ralph Hempel [mailto:rhempel@bmts.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 11:59 AM To: Blake Winton Subject: RE: Mindstorms/reinforcement learning (...) Yes!!! The simple FORTH tutorial is good. Thanks for the link. (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
 
  RE: Forth vs Assembler
 
(...) There are a couple of reasons to choose pbFORTH over raw assembler... 1. Assembler requires an assembler, which means downloading and configuring the GNU tools on eiher Linux or Cygwin for Win9x. Not for the faint of heart. 2. Once you get (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
 
  RE: Mindstorms/reinforcement learning
 
(...) Declaring variables (almost any number of them) in pbFORTH is like this: VARIABLE FOO Fetching and storing is like this: 23 FOO ! ( this stores the value ) FOO @ ( this fetches the value ) Values are 16 bit integers - 32 bit doubles use a (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
 
  Turning send.c into a dll
 
Hi, Has anyone been able to compile send.c into a .dll file under Cygwin? Can you provide instructions on how to do that? Thanks Andy (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0.1, MacNQC 2.0 b2 released
 
The Keyspan adapters are still a bit of a grey area. I've had several reports of them working just fine, and one report of it not working at all. I'm still trying to isolate this problem (which affects NQC and presumably MacNQC). The tweak in MacNQC (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0.1, MacNQC 2.0 b2 released
 
(...) Dave, Oops, I meant Keyspan, I see it does, I should have read before I wrote. thanks for the effort! DLC (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0.1, MacNQC 2.0 b2 released
 
(...) Dave, Does this one fix the bug when dealing with the Faralon USB to serial port adaptor on the newer Macs? just asking... DLC (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  NQC 2.0.1, MacNQC 2.0 b2 released
 
Visit www.enteract.com/~dbaum/nqc for details. The NQC release fixes a couple of minor bugs. The MacNQC release pulls in the latest NQC compiler and tweaks a couple of things. Dave Baum (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc, lugnet.robotics)
 
  RE: Rotary electrical coupling
 
It's interesting you mention this. I have also started to use RJ11 and RJ45 connectors in my constructions. It is a neat and compact way of routing 2, 4, 6, or 8 wires around. I am working out the most neat and compact way of stuffing them into a (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Rotary electrical coupling
 
G'Day If you are willing to use 'non-pure Lego' parts, then Radio Shack has a telephone cord 'detangler' that plugs into standard RJ-11 jacks, has 4 conductors, and 360 degree motion. Works rather well, esp. with some contact enhancer for a cleaner (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: firmdl3 @ 41.13s
 
(...) If you deactivate complements or headers in the ROM protocol, then the ROM does not transmit exactly what you might want it to. See the comments for init_serial in lib/rom.h of the Librcx distribution. If you use the default mode settings, or (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: firmdl3 @ 41.13s
 
(...) Bug, what bug? Have I missed something? My Tcl based uploader broke when Scriptics released 8.2, and now it works again. Seems I wasn't handling the rcx_recv parameter in my equivalent functions... Anyways, could you elaborate on the bug a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: firmdl3 @ 41.13s
 
(...) I'll have to test it out in my office, which has difficult lighting. Errors in transmission can often break things in unexpected ways, leaving you in states that are hard to recover from, often resulting in the downloader aborting after giving (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  firmdl3 @ 41.13s
 
Hi, on my machine, original firmdl3 took 45.2s to download firm0309.lgo. - I increased packet size to 240 bytes, gaining roughly 2 seconds. - Added packet size prediction and bytewise decoding with a state machine (The decoder spent 50 ms per packet (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Rcx Command Center version 3.0 available
 
(...) (you forgot to include the URL :-) (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc, lugnet.robotics)
 
  NQC 3.0 is where?
 
Mark's NQC page can be found at: (URL) for the great piece of software, -Phil (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  RE: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) Is this the movie where there are guys competing in unassisted (except by a huge weight) deep dives? Those guys are mental... Cheers, Ralph Hempel - P.Eng ---...--- Check out pbFORTH for LEGO Mindstorms at: (URL) ---...--- Reply to: rhempel at (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) [mlnoga@mauve mlnoga]$ make firmdl3 cc firmdl3.c -o firmdl3 firmdl3.c:146: rcx_comm.h: No such file or directory firmdl3.c:569: srec.h: No such file or directory make: *** [firmdl3] Error 1 Seems to me we're both getting a little hasty here (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Rcx Command Center version 3.0 available
 
Dear All, I am happy to announce that RCX Command Center version 3.0 is now available. The new version uses NQC 2.0 and is completely compatible with it (e.g. colorcoding, etc.) and contains a translator to translate NQC 1.x code to NQC 2.0. The (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) The URL is: (URL) in the nick of time? The original firmdl.c was dated 10/3/98. It is currently 10/3/99 (PDT at least). This was not planned! Like firmdl.c, firmdl3.c is a single file joined from smaller ones for simplicity. I will link a .tgz (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Here are thoughts on the variability in the tester issues posed. The most important sources of variability in the RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester and precautions to be taken are as follows: 1. The compressor under test itself may be (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: couldn't keep myself from it ;-)
 
(...) Whoa. Not so fast. My firmdl3 does the job in 44 seconds, not 53 seconds, so I think firmdl4 is a step backwards. :) Just hold on a bit while I finish packing it up. It is almost done, I promise. The new version (firmdl3) will be MPL. If you (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) I've already got some feedback that this fix doesn't quite work, so don't bother downloading it if you haven't already. I'll post again when I think I've got something that actually works. Dave (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  couldn't keep myself from it ;-)
 
Hi Kekoa, I herewith jettison fastdl. - added code to remove parity and disable complements to your stub - split up firmdl2 into nice little modules - figured out how to deal with complement-disabled packets - optimized delays, fixed numerous little (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Mazes
 
We are planning on solving a physical maze (ie cardboard or plywood.) The plan is to use LegOS to allow C (NQC) capabilities. We haven't started on the physical part yet; instead we are concentrating on developing a working algorithm for solving (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
I've looked at a couple of traces and it looks like the serial driver just stops receiving data after a certain point. One theory is that something happens (framing error or overflow), which then keeps the driver from relaying more information. I've (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Mazes
 
(...) Yes, right, apparently... -Kekoa (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  RE: Mazes
 
(...) Yes, and that's all I'm saying until Mindfest. Right.... Some time ago, I responded to a maze thread and suggested inverting the problem to make a maze walker that worked on a simple sheet of paper. I have now built a gantry system to suspend (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) Oops, I meant complements, not checksums, throughout the above paragraph. After reviewing my notes, it seems that the ROM properly obeys the complement flag when receiving but not when sending. When the ROM is sending a "long" message, it (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Mazes
 
Does anyone know anything about the RCX being used to solve maze problems? I am doing this for a school project, and I wanted to know if there is any information out there about it. Thanks, Eric (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) Can someone send me a trace of the verbose output for the failure case on an NT machine? nqc -v -d program.nqc >output Perhaps I can figure out what's going wrong with the serial port. As an aside, does anyone have a snippet of boiler-plate (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
"Mario Ferrari" <mario.ferrari@edis.it> wrote in message news:FJ0Jpv.Mvp@lugnet.com... (...) Mario, I can try to download your long program with my Windows 2000 RC2 machine. Send me a copy if you want.... Ciao Carlo (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  RE: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) This is what I like so much about the "Extreme Team"...usually more than one way to skin a cat. I must have missed those posts, Kekoa. I try to use as much as possible of the ROM code in the brick too. The next step for pbFORTH is to link (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) I received an e-mail from "Mike Kory" <kory@advancenet.net> that says: ---...--- Howdy, I downloaded Mario's big program successfully 3 times in a row on my Win98 machine using the command line interface. So it seems like a problem with NT or (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) Just for the record, I implemented a dual-speed downloader a few months ago and mailed John Tamplin with information about it with regards to the JVM port that seems to have died. I used a different strategy to hack the dual speed downloads. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) Great! I found a Win95 machine and just performed some downloads. All of them completed with no problems. I compiled with NQC 2.0 and 1.x compatibility option. I'm not sure I understand the problems under NT, but at least now I can go on with (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  egcs-1.1.1 patch, legOS projects structure
 
Hi, this night is proving productive. I went ahead and tweaked egcs to produce RCX-specific interrupt handler prologues and epilogues. Apply this patch against egcs-1.1.1/gcc/confi...0/h8300.c, and you will be able to create interrupt handlers the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) Mario, I just loaded it 6 times in a row without a single error... How? I'm scared but I have to say it... I tried to load the program in Windows 95. There must be something in NT that is preventing to load big programs. I tried to check the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) Mario, I just loaded it 6 times in a row without a single error... How? I'm scared but I have to say it... I tried to load the program in Windows 95. There must be something in NT that is preventing to load big programs. I tried to check the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader - and compilers
 
(...) Not at all ;-) fast.srec works like this: - load new image, storing it immediately behind fast.srec - fix stack pointer, you'll start new firmware anyways - relocate a small routine immediately below SP - call that routine - relocate the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: fast firmware downloader - and compilers
 
I'll have to try fastdl at some point. My pbFORTH image is assembled to live at 0x8000 and be loaded just like "real" firmware. If I use fastdl, how do I have to change my firmware assembly output to accomodate it? On the subject of configurable (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
(...) Erm, hrm, well... the reason I didn't ship it yet is that it won't compile with any released version of legOS. In order to gain full configurability, I had to set up a seperate directory structure, with its own include tree and stripped down (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) Thanks for your help. Hope you're wrong, otherwise I have to dramatically downsize my program and make it a lot more stupid :-) Some more info on the problem: - The memory has been cleared before any attempt. - I tried both NQC 1.3 and NQC 2.0 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: fast firmware downloader
 
Looks real nice on the PC side, Markus, but- where is the source for fast.srec? Was that a deliberate omission? Or just a mistake? I'd really like to look at what is in there, especially considering the small size of the .srec. Let us know... -Luis (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  fast firmware downloader
 
Hi, I'm currently implementing LNP. As a first demo application, I just finished a quad-speed firmware downloader. If you're using replacement firmware, maybe this will be of use to you. (URL) you at MindFest, Markus. -- Markus L. Noga (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  fast firmware downloader
 
Hi, I'm currently implementing LNP. As a first demo application, I just finished a quad-speed firmware downloader. If you're using replacement firmware, maybe this will be of use to you. (URL) you at MindFest, Markus. (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) programs with the Spirit.OCX. I coded a huge program, with lots of tasks and subroutines, and long stretches of code. When I try to download it, I get the dots and then AsyncronBrickError returns Error 2048 (not 100% certain about the number) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) You're right - I forgot the delay (that's what I get for typing code from memory). Yeah, 'test and set' is the best solution, but unfortunately the RCX doesn't have one. The bitflag stuff is a little ugly for my tastes, which is why NQC does (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) Yes, |= is atomic. At the bytecode level you always OR from some source into a destination variable. Dave (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Rotary electrical coupling
 
Jeffrey Hazen <jeffrey.hazen@northmill.net> wrote in message news:01BF0C69.13794F...thmill1... (...) wires (...) I'd be interested in seeing this one. When I created my version of Grey Walters robot turtle I had to use a windshield wiper motion in (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) This only works if |= is atomic, though. Is it? Cheers, Ben. -- (URL) grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
Your proposed solution is susceptible to the "lockstep starvation" problem. Lockstep starvation happens when two tasks try to get the lock at the same time and execute the same code in lock step, like so: task 1: lock |= 2; task 2: lock |= 4; task (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) I forgot to say I cleared the memory before my attempts, and checked it was actually cleared using the Tools -> Memory Map option. The problem is still there. In lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc, Dave Baum writes: (...) No problem with the source. Just (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Rotary electrical coupling
 
I have been working (when I should have been Working) on two things which may be of general interest. The first is a rotary electrical coupling, which allows you to pass 4 wires through a rotary joint. I built the prototype tonight, and I think it (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
(...) you don't want to send source, you can always compile it and send the binary... nqc -Ofoo.rcx foo.nqc Another alternative would be to download it in verbose mode and send me the log... nqc -v -d foo.nqc >log My email is dbaum@enteract.com Dave (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) I'm going from memory here, so I may miss a detail... int lock; #define TASK_BIT(task_num) (1 << task_num) void acquire_lock(int task_num) { while(1) { // wait for lock to be clear while(lock); // try to own it lock |= TASK_BIT(task_num); // (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Well, people, I think we'd better get down to some serious business... (...) Agreed. Building instructions on the way soon as I can see whether improvements are required as as been variously suggested:a. use an angle sensor b. use a pressure (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Just kidding! Well, you my weakness. How could I possibly pass off the opportuntiy to build and test what might turn out to be the ultimate Lego air compressor? Fact is I've already started on it but there may be some delay coz I'm truly out (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Well, didn't really expect you would let me off so easily. (...) Oh dear, my site's a mess. Just hope you know what you're doing. (...) A better idea - if I could contort myself to fit into the DHL box .... Cheers -- C S Soh (URL) where air is (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Download problem
 
Hi Mario, I've encountered some weird problems like this too. I think I was able to fix things up by erasing the memory. In RcxCC, use the Tools -> Clear Memory option. Please let us know if that works. Jonathan (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
Michael, Another great post! You should be in the "LEGO Hall of Fame" along with Dave Baum and Mark Overmars! Thanks for your many contributions, - Nick - (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37F4B2C6.5A1298...ger.net... (...) For the development of my pressure sensor I used a digital pressure gauge that you can buy for checking tire pressure. ($8.00 at KMart) It requires removing (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Works for me. I'll even pay for shipping. :-) Just kidding. I think we need to see instructions for the tester! That way we can all reproduce the results. But, maybe we need to compare several testers to see how much variability there is (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Download problem
 
Hi Dave and everybody, I have a strange problem with an NQC program. It's something Marco Beri and I are preparing for the Mindfest. The program is rather large if compared to the average NQC programs: about 240 lines of code with large inline (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Yea, I bought two of the technic subs just for the tanks. Your fine data does show they help : ) Thanks again for sharing it!! (...) That is an excellent idea. Maybe a group buy thru him could be worked out if he doesnt want to have them as a (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) well, you did ask for a parts list : ). I was trying to be complete and not run you off. Please don't feel obligated to run any tests on this as I understand too well life's time constraints. After I finished up all the picts and description, (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) DON'T go back into hiding! We're all glad you popped up. Excellent site, I know I nominated it for CLSotW and I bet other people did too. Very important work to the community as a whole. Thanks!!!! (...) You could probably oh, I dunno, DHL it (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) There is a way to do it even if you have no test and set, though I can't remember it off the top of my head, and it is slow. Don't see how using bitflags helps? Cheers, Ben. -- (URL) grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Yes, it's a real pain to get those little blue air tanks as spares. And I forsee there will be an increase in their demand since my article was posted. Perhaps, here's where Emmanuel of DYA-shopping (where else but in France itself) could come (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
On semaphores... There was a lot of discussion a long time ago on whether NQC should use semaphores to protect temp variables between tasks. There isn't an atomic test-and-set bytecode, so the only way I know of implementing sempaphore would be to (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Gosh, that's a tall order. Y'know, you're going to send me back into hiding for quite a while. And I was just thinking of taking a break after coming out with my new creation. Maybe I should just loan you my testing machine.... -- C S Soh (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Ahhh I see now... DHL is the one with the flying trucks arent they ? As soon as I personally watch one of them land on my street, I will gladly send him the assembly( without tanks of course) Its hard to replace them since I dont live in (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Greetings : ) Silly me, made it more complex than it was. Does DHL stand for "Delivers Holy LEGOs" ??... Thanks for the clarification. Anyway here is a link to several pictures of the assembly process. I will try to put together a parts list. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Well, sort of. As you can imagine, all my pumps and air tanks are already taken up in my models of Mike's and Ralph's and other compressors in order to carry out the comparative tests. Seriously though, if anyone has pneumatic parts they no (...) (25 years ago, 1-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) I think that if you do something like this you should use a semaphore to secure no tasks access y and z simultanously. But that wastes another variable storing the sema. (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Er, DHL is one of the international express courier services. They'll deliver parcels to any place in the world. You could also use Federal Express... No, I don't want the DAT files, I want to lay my hands on that awesome creation of yours (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
DHL is an express service, competitor to Airborne and FedEx. Master Soh is making a play for a donation. :-) (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) heehee more air power is better,right ? <grin> of course it really depends on the application, but in this case I want to push about 8 cylinders. maybe this upgrade to the pump will help get me inspired to complete it. (...) I will put some (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) My, that is an awesome looking compressor design, indeed. I hope it doesn't throw my recording device off-scale. I'm not too sure I can build it just from the pictures but I'll give it a go. It'll help if you could include some exploded views (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) That's exaclty what I was thinking of doing. Originally, the compiler had no way of allocating temp variables which is why code for % couldn't be emitted. The temp allocator is now pretty good, so I could emit the above sequence, but it just (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Er, I didn't actually measure the pressure. I merely recorded the movement of the piston of the cylinder up to its maximum extent. -- C S Soh (URL) where air is power (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Hi, Ralph Your double-acting pump is still a cool design. I like the futuristic look. It was quite easy to build from the pictures. I had to substitute for the tall sloped brick but otherwise I followed the images faithfully. Of course, I'm (...) (25 years ago, 30-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Hmmm .. Two stage might not be the correct term. Two stage would imply it was compressing already compressed air, right ? I am sorry about that. Double acting would probably be more correct as each compressor leads to it's own airtank then (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
Hmm maybe I should clean up my Compressor design and add it to my Lego page I have expanded on the mini-compressor to make it double action - but full stroke. It is about twice as long as the mini pump, and a little wider due to three 24t gears. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
Why is this two stage? I could not follow this design clearly but are you feeding the output of one stage to the input of the next? Two compressor pistons in parallel is something else (double acting?? I am not sure what)... Cool design no mater (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Hi Chio Thats a pretty interesting design. Nice work! (URL) Here is a link to some pictures of the two stage compressor I built. Hopefully there are enough details shown to reconstruct it but if you have any questions let me know. The actual (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
c s soh <cssoh@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message news:37F21B8E.1C3CD6....com.sg... (...) What kind of maximum pressure (psi) can you get? I built a pressure sensor that I will publish very soon based on the Lucas sensors available from Digikey. I (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  RE: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
The page on compressor comparisons is really informative. I'm honoured that you felt my design was worthy of testing. The reason I made it a two stroker was to "balance" the load on the driving system. Michael Powell's compressor tends to "lump" (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Thanks, It could possibly be done but I've not tried it. It would have made the air compressor tester more complicated than necessary. As you can see I'm really a minimalist. One of the design goals was to keep it simple yet fully functional. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) <snipsnip> (...) <snipsnip> (...) That seems easily solved with some extra gears, or am I missing something? I mean, you could amplify the rotation of the axle by five (or three, or two) any number of times until the rotation sensor does pick (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: NQC 2.0 and some math questions
 
(...) x = y % z is equivalent to (where w is an temporary integer): w = y / z; x = y - z * w; I can't think of a useful use of % just with constants. Ciao. Marco. (25 years ago, 29-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  RE: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
For what its worth, the Lego Shop@Home catalog is offering the #8250 Rescue Sub for $25.00, discounted from $49.50. Big pump, air tank, one valve, one big cylinder, long yellow beams and nifty molded shapes. For the price, I'm thinking of getting (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: Listening to IR via NQC
 
(...) FWIW, I did something similar to this using NQC and the Datalog. It uses variable0 for polling and letting the PC know the Datalog has some "stuff" it wants to send. (URL) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) I have tried to emphasise all the time in my web pages. It has probably reached the theoretical limit of efficiency for the small pump. It will be difficult to build another compressor that can surpass his mini compressor. On the other hand, (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Thanks, Indeed, my first attempt was to use a rotational sensor positioned with the axle at the pivot point of the lever arm and tried to datalog the angular movement using DACTA Control Lab. However, the resolution of the rotation sensor (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
A Lego testing machine for Lego compressors... wow, one of the coolest Lego things ever seen around! I love the idea and love your implementation, and find your results very useful. BTW, I think that the Ralph Hempel's double-action compressor (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
Nice work! For a while it looks that you could travel back in time using this recording device, before you realize that the pen draws an arc when the paper doesn't move ;-). Could it be possible to add a rotational sensor and datalog the time and (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Thanks for the nice comments and suggestions. As a matter of fact, I'm working towards a doctorate in Legorobotology, majoring in Pneumatics (what else) from the University of Legoland, if not MIT :-)) -- C S Soh (URL) where air is power (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: RCX Controlled Air Compressor Tester
 
(...) Er, <wipes egg off face> never mind. They're on the next page. Missed that the first time. However the Limit switch reference probably should be changed. I merely hosted the diagram that I was mailed, and I cannot take credit for coming up (...) (25 years ago, 28-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.build, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.technic)


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