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Re: Why not Both?
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Let's stick to the creationist refutation of speciation and macroevolution,
> it at least has the potential for not being quite as plowed ground.
Thank you for eventually saying this. The topic at hand could be argued
in a number of ways but it reaches a very philosophical(sp?) level.
> Me, though, I'll be waiting for this macroevolution refutation to be
> published in Nature, win a Nobel prize of some sort, make it into some
> refereed journal, something like that, before I'll give it much credence,
> since it doesn't fit the observations. I won't be holding my breath, though.
> Literal creationism is a terrible predictor of anything observable.
Okay Larry....I must say I'm starting to see Jon's frustration.
PLEASE tell us even ONE observation that that it doesn't fit. Name
specifics. We've been very general up to this point. If you can't come
up with specifics I'll cite a few that Evolutionists commonly bring up
and show you why they're wrong.
--
-TiM
NB, CA
http://echofx.itgo.com
t_c_c@yahoo.com
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| (...) What Larry meant was because Creationism explains everything, it really explains nothing. "Tigers look like lions" -- God's plan; "Dinosaurs don't graze on grassy plains all over the world any more" -- God's plan; "Plant chlorophyll has DNA (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Why? So you could avoid this point? "If you fault my system for not explaining the origin of the universe, why then, I fault yours for not explaining the origin of your god. No better no worse, explanation wise. A draw." I'd rather see you (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) OK. So in the system you accept as a true, revealed system, your god exists forever and created the universe, but himself doesn't need a creator. In the one I accept as likely based on the evidence and observations so far (note the difference, (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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