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Re: Why not Both?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:12:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
> > The Bible,
> > however, does not claim to re-interpret itself. It's the "God is infinite"
> > point again - He doesn't need to since He was accurate in the first place.
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> And therein lies a problem for me, but only because the Bible doesn't answer
> all my questions to my satisfaction. And my personal judgement does. And
> since I find my personal judgement in conflict with the Bible, well, sorry,
> one of 'em's gotta go.
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> > Unfortuantely, our nihilistic, relative society has convinced itself that
> > there is nothing sure, that all is relative. That bias has blinded many to
> > the fact that there is a God who is sure and absolute, and whom we can trust
> > absolutely.
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> While you may find that a failing, I find that a reassurance. Don't ask me
> why, it's just more comforting to me to know that there are no absolutes.
> But of course my question to you then is (obviously) Why are you so sure in
> the Bible? What gives you the confidence in it apart from some other
> 'sacred' book, save personal preferance? And if only personal preference,
> then out of what? Pride? Fear? Or bad experience? Something else? I'll put
> my money on 'pride' (though for both you and I, I don't think I'd name it as
> 'pride' per se, but it's subject to interpretation :)
2 things in particular come to mind.
1) personal relationship with God - difficult to explain. Outwardly could
appear to be similar to your beliefs. Although there's more historical basis
for mine... I also have the evidence of my life and others' whom He has
changed.
2) Logic / reason
a) the logic of the failings of man's interpretation of the universe -
evolution et al...
b) the logic of the witness of the man Jesus who claimed to be God and thus was
either God or crazy - but nothing of His life supports madness
-Jon
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| (...) You'll have to clarify here: your personal relationship has a historical basis, and is based on the evidence of your life and others'? Actually, I'll correct myself by saying I think you're adressing two topics-- both the personal connection, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Exactly. And maybe I erred semantically-- your assumption (I think) is that when what science tells us disagrees from what the Bible tells us, obviously science's conclusion has erred somehow-- either due to lack of data, incorrect data, or (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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