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(...) Click further and you read: ?It makes me feel ashamed to come from the United States ? it is humiliating.? ? JESSICA LANGE Whatever. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now that is something I can agree with. ('xcept Canada is the best country to live in, but that's just my humble opinion :) ) I don't have cites--thanks for reminding me of hte word-gerrymandering--just folks who live there and to whom I talk (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I think he was asking where YOU would get your morals... you reminded him where he gets his, which I presume he already knew. We've discussed morality and the origins thereof in the past and I think I'm in the rather small minority that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So... Sickle cell anemia is racist. Giving birth to same-race children by same-race parents is racist Tendency toward sunburn is racist The greater incidence of lactose-intolerance among Asian ethnicities is racist The physiologic adaptations (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (You don't have to fly me to Spain to get me to opine that I'm not particularly fond of him either, but if you wanted to, I'd go!) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott is guilty of many sins, too many to list actually, but that particular observation (that historically, it's went better for you if you're white and well off than if you're not) wasn't racist, per se. If it were, why then, pointing out (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hating America. Unless you modify your complaint, you are explicitly equating Bush with America, which is insane nationalistic idolatry. And, frankly, that sort of kneejerk follow-the-leader thinking, not to mention your anti-world diatribes (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The quickest link I could find: (URL) (...) Dave!, tell me why I should care more about some Hollywood star's opinions than anyone else's. The media seems to think that because they make films, their opinions must be somehow more valid and so (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You, my friend, are wrong. Making generalizations based upon skin color is the very definition of racism, no matter what the race. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who has said this? Name the star, and give the citation. (...) The fact that you are unable to imagine a dissenting view by an intelligent, well-motivated person of good character is a fantastic indicator that you yourself are either of low (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa whoa whoa.. Are you reading your own papers? Folks have been held for 'questioning' for long periods of time, even when there are no charges against them. There are people living in, well, not necessarily fear of their lives, but at least (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) That, my friend, shows me that you really can't see the forest thru the trees. In no way, shape or form is Scott's expression racist. It actually shows to me that he sees the inherent racism in the system and tries to point it (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's very nice. You should realize that such immature ad hominems only serve to reflect the complete lack of character of the user. (...) The estimated loss due to 9-11 was $95,000,000,000 USD. What do you suppose the cost (in terms of $$$, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why should US citizens apologize to anyone because our world view happens to differ from other countries'? If I hear of one more Hollywood star say in a press conference in Europe that they hate America, I'm think I'm going to puke! I don't (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was measuring it militarily. How would *you* measure it? By height? (...) Well, you guessed wrong. The US doesn't happen to rule the world; she just makes sure that nobody else attempts to do so. (...) Look, I am not saying the US is (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think both France and Germany have done a good job standing up to the Chimp [sorry, I meant Chump] in the Whitehouse. Scott A (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sorry for 'throwing it out there' to begin with... well, no, not actually. I actually liked this thread up until the word 'dingus' appeared (though to be said, the (sic) response was a jab as well--I think we all agreed to leave the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Slinging names is not the way to keep this debate where it needs to be. Because when you use even a mild one like "Losertarian" you enable ill mannered rabble rousers to do the same (in kind, but far worse in degree). I find the use of the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's keep it in perspective; there has been no "removal of any reference" to the Towers. Last night on Spin City I saw a clear shot of them, and the syndicated Simpsons recently showed the episode in which the family treks to NYC and Homer (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, Larry--you should join the NRA/Christian Coalition/Enron whore known as the GOP. And John, since you're fond of overlooking reality when it favors your agenda, let's not forget that you can make no true claims of majority. Voter turnout (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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No real arguments here, Scott -- just the reminder that your buddy, Blair seems to enjoy kissing Bush's behind. Of course, I am not saying that you agree with that; just pointing out the obvious deficiencies of your own "leaders" over there. -- (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. I'd be happy to see some of those things too, dingus. If you think the war will pay for itself, or be a short easy to pay for war; then you need to reduce your lithium intake. Bush will raise the national debt paying off his (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Does somebody else feel like giving dingus a brief history of the "Grand Old Party"? I sure don't... -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Great! So our goal is war with Saudi Arabia, right? ...er, wait, what the hell is this business with Iraq again? (...) Figures. -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is an easy way to sort that. (...) Why does anyone ever apologize for anything? (...) Is it the judgment you don't like, or the fact that the USA is being judged? Perhaps the French should be denied the right to free speech? Perhaps Bush (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have you never read the bible John? Was Goliath not MIGHTIER than David? It all depends on how you measure "might". Ghandi demonstrated where the real power lies. He was stronger than the then British Empire. (...) Let me guess, the USA is (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought that the appearences of the WTC in the Spider-man movie were for promotional purposes only and never intended for the final cut? As far as I know there were two promotional scenes, one was a poster of a larger than life spider (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What, and miss out on such cogent discourse? -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If by "we" you mean the liberal left, than I guess you are correct. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was my point. (...) *You* could be in the majority too if you'd pull your head out and join the Republican party to work for getting liberatarian agendas implemented, rather than support the go-nowhere, impotent Losertarian party. You are (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What fun is that, except to a German after reading your malapropism:-) (...) As in show me a freer country than the US (it's comparative) (...) I doubt any "coruption (sic) from within" will attempt mass murder upon the citizens of the United (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) all (...) Actually I was referring to the removal of any reference of the World Trade Center towers. I was particularly annoyed that the deleted scene of Spiderman capturing a helicopter in a web between the the towers was not included on the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you referring to that stupid campaign to sue Peter Jackson for the name of the second film in the LoTR trilogy? If so, then I'm with you, in that I can't figure it out, either. It was really insensitive of Tolkien to name his books after (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yikes! Lets just throw in a "Sich heil" for fun too. (...) Freest? What do you mean freest, shouldn't that be simply free. Why are there limitations placed on freedom. Granted as mind bogglingly naive as your rant is, you have the right to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, he can assert that a majority of the estimated 39% of eligible voters chose to vote Republican, and beyond that he's welcome to believe whatever else he likes, of course. But I think he'd come across as less of a stereotypically boorish, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, John -- wake up! You're talking in your sleep and some of us can still hear you... Increasingly we have more in common with socialism and/or communism than we do with a free democratic republic, or hadn't you noticed? THE 10 PLANKS OF (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your demagoguery and paranoia aside, let's take a wait-and-see attitude rather than engage in pointless inflammatory rhetoeric. I am just so tired of Americans apologizing for the US-- it is mad that I would have anything for which to be sorry (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, maybe not as free as you might think... (URL) (who happens to be from the Netjerlands...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave, I am just curious, is your perspective that on a non-US citizen? Maybe you made clear where you're from in an earlier post, but in this context I just wasn't sure. Assuming you are from elsewhere, I certainly hope you do not think that (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll help you with the lego :) It's the zealous nationalism which blinds people to fixing the issues. I'm a nationalist--I love being Canadian. As such, I believe in a 'just war' scenario--that is, I would pick up a gun and join the armed (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) None of us is blessed with omniescence, of course, as far as I can tell. And we're all limited by our horizons, and our companions. But I'm on a mountaintop with Thomas Jefferson, while you're down in a hog wallow with John Ashcroft, so I'm (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In fairness to John, doesn't he have EVERY right to believe his views have been co-signed by the american people? Either by positive act or by apathy, the future has been written. And yes, I do think it may be time to move to a country whose (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Lemme see, how can I put this in the most polite terms possible? O, I know -- self-censorship! Hey John: Shut the **** up! -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Although John may speak for the soon-to-be-installed right-wing overzealous militaristic hegemonic self-righteous theocracy, his wildly nationalistic statements should not be construed as anything like mainstream American thought, but they can (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The world needs to come to terms with the simple fact that the US *IS MIGHTIER THAN THOU* It's not pretentious, merely fact. Be thankful that the US also happens to be the greatest power ever to have existed on the face of the earth AND shows (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As far as you know, which isn't far. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, Ken Krawchuk had a not-terrible showing in the PA gubernatorial race, pulling an estimated 6,652 votes versus (Green) Morrill's 4,952, and Krawchuk had at least *some* name recognition leading up to the election. The four main (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya "Most", Dave! Was gonna say "all" but hey, you know how it is, Dave! And if you've got a problem with that, you know where to go, Dave! :-) ++Lar (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) How 'bout the US get off it's pretentious 'Mighter than thou so we can do as we please' high horse and smell the roses (or the toxic exhaust fumes from rampant consumerism) (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Most?" Dave! (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Since Libertarians didn't sweep to stunning victories in most of their races, I'm not sure I agree. Like I said elsewhere, I fear for the country. Having the House, Senate and White House all controlled by the same party (either one of the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sometimes we have no choice. (...) How about the world showing the US a little respect first. (...) Who would support this? (...) Who wouldn't vote for this? (...) I think America did that. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am just hijacking the thread in service to my own nefarious purposes.... MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH...AHAHAHA!!! Anyway, I was reading some Gore Vidal related stuff on the Observer UK site and realized that we must be missing some pretty wild stuff. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't understand why the chief executive officer has any business whatsoever in campaigning for members of the Legislative branch--isn't that a direct conflict of interest? I don't condemn Bush uniquely for this, although he's been a more (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Shocked!! Shocked, I say, to find out that there's gambling in this here establishment!! This time, the gambling could escalate into very bad things for my neighbours to the south, as (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Democracy is a funny thing sometimes. Thankfully we have limits on what parties can spend. Scott A (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Given the inaccuracy of this counterfactual assertion: "Mr Mondale had taken over the seat previously held by incumbent Senator Paul Wellstone, who died in a recent plane crash." (1) (from: (URL) is not particularly difficult to disagree with this (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Warning--Spoonerisms: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is a little jarring - letting Sharon [a war criminal] enforce "justice" is crazy. I don't think the *current* Israeli government can be trusted to act on human rights abuses. I’m not alone: Amnesty calls for arrest of Israelis for war (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Vote against... ...war. ...continued international power-grabs. ...corporate welfare. ...bad corporate accounting practices. Vote for... ...peace. ...concern over the national economy. ...a rational fiscal policy. ...corporate accountability. Today (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) think my favorite quote was this one: "The report also included recommendations for the Israeli government, including the suggestion that its military not target Palestinian Security Services in reprisal for suicide attacks -- instead arguing (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aw, shucks! Well, I'll harp on that string until it breaks. The Portland story was news to me, but I was struck by its resonance with the Pittsburgh episode. I wonder how many other such incidents are out there. (...) I prefer my clowns to be (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave! Dave! Dave! Is it getting so lonely in here that you have to rehash all of this old news? tsk, tsk... Dude, we still love you! And as to that Bush thing... Everybody loves a ******* clown! -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) nice. By that same logic I imagine that, since Bush isn't really the President, he couldn't ever really be impeached, right? In the spirit of wrongful detention, I'd like to cite an incident clearly illustrating the right to free speech as it (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, Minnesota state law allows them to do this up to 4 days before the election. Problem is the absentee voters who are voting for a *Democratic* senate seat are going to be disenfranchised because votes for Wellstone will not legally go (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Toricelli decision will embolden the Democratic-Farmer-Labor party to put in whoever they think is most electable, no doubt. I'm saddened too. Especially since it happened in a light plane. (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I curious as to the ramifications of his death. Will the Democrats try and elect another dead man? Since Wellstone's wife died in the crash as well, you can't have her serve as happened in the extremely bizarre election of the dead senator Mel (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or enforced. I don't want to make light of this event, but I am curious what the conspiracy theorists will dream up for this one. -Kyle (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Although I disagreed with virtually everything this man stood for, I am saddened and shocked upon learning of his untimely and tragic death. My thoughts and prayers go out to his surviving daughters and family. It seems his promise that he wouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe the Washington Sniper should be refered to as the "Washington shooter at unexpecting people from a hiding place" to protect the good name of 'sniper'? ;-) Cheers Richie (23 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The terrorists win every day. Every time Hammas sets of a bomb, and Bush/Sharon respond by saying they won't talk to Arafat - Hammas wins. Every day Israel steals more and more land - Israeli extremists win. The very last thing Sharon or (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, this may be the first time I have ever heard that terrorism might actually be successful in bringing down a gov't. People aren't shopping for fear of getting killed, tourism drasically down, recession, 10 percent unemployment, and the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Snipers are ordinary people, who have taken on an extraordinary job. The title 'sniper' is one we wear with pride. Real snipers save lives, every time they go to work." From: (URL) A (23 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It looks like it is: Israel asks US for $10bn to halt recession - Intifada takes its toll on a once-buoyant economy (URL) is interesting about the text is how Sharon is reported to be using Iraq as a lever to get more US tax dollars from Bush Jr. (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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For more check out: (URL) I of the U.S. Constitution states the following: "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;" (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I ran across this linked from Penny Arcade... (URL) appears serious (but how can you tell these days). :-) or at least formatted prettily. Contrast with: (URL) (and other variants, which have been around a long time). I posted to both .fun and (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would imagine that both are related to the level the economy is operating at. (...) I'm not sure "Railroads" have been nationalised in the UK(?) - I exepct Tony has went the "3rd Way". (...) However you look at that mess, it is not an (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What are the other criteria used to determine/justify these "natural monopolies?" (...) My coworker has a power line running to his house that he occasionally uses during peak use times on the weekend, but primarily generates his own power. If (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *some* economists do. Others reject the notion of a natural monopoly. The classic example is the (...) Just as a side note, I've said in the past that I didn't buy the natural monopoly argument, and have argued in detail against specific (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Since that would mean that my wife has standing to comment (at about 1/8 Native American) but I (at pretty much all European) don't... I would tend to hold it as not reasonable. Else she'll hold it against ME! (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I assume here you are taking about power supply rather than generation? Likewise for water supply and sewage collection - rather than water and sewerage treatment? (...) For some cities the airports may well be. But I think that as long as (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Economist have a concept called "natural monopoly" which refers to a industry where the capital investment is so large that it is not in society's best interest for there to be one than one supplier. The classic example is the local power industry (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The changes are outlined here: (URL) the UK we "invest" in roads and "subsidise" the railways. Scott A (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There was actually a pretty good opinion piece, I think in the NYT (but possibly in Newsweek), that discussed the disconnect between air travel and train service. It laid out the numbers and pointed out that since 1936, the airline industry (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe the author is the late Paula Giese, and she certainly doesn't make any points with me for her patronizing attitude toward schoolteachers as well as for her panning of Lynn Reid Banks' Indian in the Cupboard: (URL) of the issues (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Consider this page: (URL) author certainly makes a bunch of valid points (although I dunno about the "arrogant and ignorant Brits" being valid or not... :-) )... but consider whether he's likely to make many converts by berating his readership. I (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This article makes the case against airline bailouts and airlines in general... (URL) found the Warren Buffett quote particularly hilarious (his frustration with airlines and their service was part of why he was instrumentel in founding the pioneer (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's great! The CDs and book are probably not that bad, and I kinda like non-black DMs. I used to have a pair of cherry red three-hole shoes. Nice ones. Fredrik (23 years ago, 13-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In addition to my other garage sale FOTW (URL) found some new Doc Martens (1460 boots) in my size for $5! The only thing is they are a forest green color, and I was forced to take two CD's (Erasure and Duran Duran) and a Terry Brooks novel (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or are they one of the puppet-masters? (...) You'll know when there are no other options available. Seriously tough, if you look at the Declaration of Independence, ( (URL) ) you can see some startling similarities between the state that they (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well as my original post was *meant* to convey, (of which the line was snipped,) was that what I assume is that most people who support gun control, actually believe it is for the overall good. I doubt most gun control advocates even think of (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That may be *one* of the reasons, but it's no more insidious than the NRA's big-business pro-gun lobby, which has much less to do with personal freedoms than it has to do with lining the pockets of the gun industry. That's not to say that the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As if he weren't already a canonized thief, W has in a single stroke demonstrated that Clinton (anyone remember our most recently elected President?) was far from our least moral commander-in-chief. (...) Four of the six reps in my area voted (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, it's all just so many words now. From what I understand of it, our reps did well by us in the Bay Area, CA. What's everyone else's excuse? It is not generally thought that any war right now will be good for the economy. With low sales numbers (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Isn't that the real reason behind the "gun control is good" lobby? "Support gun control and give up your fundamental rights today." The Tyrants that actually believe what they do is for our own good, are the most dangerous of all. (I know, I (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a real interesting question. It's crystal clear to me that the parties should have a lot of say over how their name gets used. On the other hand, perhaps the parties should not "own" positions on the ballot. So, let's say a Republican (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good. Because if you go down that road it opens up a whole topic about crackpots... in every party... which I think we can skip, ne? However I think there IS an interesting topic in there, which is this, where should a smaller party draw the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, maybe it's time for me to be a little foolish maybe. I think as long as they know we could revolt, there is likely to never be the actual need to do so -- rather like the concept of mutually assured destruction. I don't think they'll (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't be too hard on yourself -- it's REALLY hard to know what is going on without accessing more international sources. And it doesn't matter the source -- almost ALL media is controlled, and usually by people with hefty wallets. You have to (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There are certainly places where teachers should be making more money. Schools though, waste huge sums of money in an attempt to educate. There are (private) schools that do a better job for less money without depriving the teachers. Maybe the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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