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Re: debate fodder from an unusual source...
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
This article makes the case against airline bailouts and airlines in general...

http://www.fool.com/news/foth/2002/foth021010.htm

I found the Warren Buffett quote particularly hilarious (his frustration
with airlines and their service was part of why he was instrumentel in
founding the pioneer fractional jet ownership company)... not that I would
ever advocate initiating the use of force, mind you, but it was funny anyway.

   There was actually a pretty good opinion piece, I think in the NYT
   (but possibly in Newsweek), that discussed the disconnect between
   air travel and train service.  It laid out the numbers and pointed
   out that since 1936, the airline industry has made a net profit of
   $3 billion--FOR THAT ENTIRE PERIOD--counting the $5 billion that
   they took as a bailout.  And they've come asking for more.  Amtrak,
   on the other hand, is demanded to show a profit; virtually no rail
   companies handling passengers do, and most rely on infrastructure
   subsidies in any case.  But Amtrak is being held to a standard that
   if airlines were held to it would require their reorganization as
   well.  (From what I heard, the UK has renationalized
   the rail infrastructure, which I think is a good move.)  It may be
   wasteful, but I'm of the opinion that mass transit requires some kind
   of governmental incentive and central control (promotion of the
   general welfare), because of their unique position relative to
   other kinds of enterprise (which is something I've discussed in
   other threads, but which I can't put a pointer to right now).

   best

   LFB



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  Re: debate fodder from an unusual source...
 
(...) The changes are outlined here: (URL) the UK we "invest" in roads and "subsidise" the railways. Scott A (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Economist have a concept called "natural monopoly" which refers to a industry where the capital investment is so large that it is not in society's best interest for there to be one than one supplier. The classic example is the local power industry (...) (22 years ago, 15-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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This article makes the case against airline bailouts and airlines in general... (URL) found the Warren Buffett quote particularly hilarious (his frustration with airlines and their service was part of why he was instrumentel in founding the pioneer (...) (22 years ago, 13-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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