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Re: Conflict in the Middle East
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Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:22:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Trobaugh writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> <snip>
> > As did the British Empire and the United States. Why? There was no 'clear
> > victory' of either side in that war ('cause like, Canada's still here :) )
> > but, bottom line, imho,-- education. First it was war. Then realizing that
> > neither party was getting anywhere with it, they grew up, sucked it up, put
> > aside their differences (sure it took decades), got to a point where they
> > could say 'we agree to disagree'. Look at the countries now.
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> Huh? I'm pretty sure that there was a clear victor in the American
> Revolution, otherwise our money would still have a picture of the Queen on
> it. (no real comment on why Canada is here :))
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> Education is good, I also think that having a common goal or enemy can bring
> countries together. Kind of like how it works in a family sometimes. I can
> pick on my brother all I want, but if someone outside of my family tries to
> mess with him, they have to mess with me also.
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> Now if the world was to be attacked by aliens the I think as a world we
> could put aside our differences in order to combat the common enemy, the
> aliens. Well maybe, there would probably be some country that would try to
> suck up to the attacking aliens and become allies with them, and the French
> would just surrender....ok ok, just kidding.
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> jt
like Independance Day--I really liked the Presidents speech - the world
united with one voice--'we shall not go quietly into the night...' etc.
Sometimes I wish there was an external threat to humanity, cause that would
put all these petty differences into perspective--oh wait, there is--the
environmental disaster mankind has inflicted on the world!
Anyway, that's a topic for another time.
My point b/w US and UK was not that the US didn't achieve what they wanted -
ie Independance, it was that the empire didn't route the US, nor did the US
route the empire, and a border was established and the confilct ceased,
'cause both parties got to the point where they realized that the conflict
couldn't go on. The war could have continued--the US troops were as far as
Stoney Creek, Ontario (though to be said, we had Mackinaw Island, taken with
one shot :) )-- and we could have been bitter bitter enemies, rehashing the
sins of our fathers thru the generations, fighting skirmishes along the
49th. But we didn't. No, as it stands, longest *un*defended border in the
world ('xcept when you're trying to smuggle booze from the duty free).
That's maturity. That's education. That's putting aside the diffeences and
realizing that we have more in common than naught.
Dave
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) Huh? I'm pretty sure that there was a clear victor in the American Revolution, otherwise our money would still have a picture of the Queen on it. (no real comment on why Canada is here (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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