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Re: Conflict in the Middle East
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Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:15:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Fredrik Glöckner writes:
> > Now is the time for the American authorities to give a crystal clear
> > message to the Israeli authorities that the violence and the occupation
> > must end. I think that is the only short term solution for the conflict
> > right now.
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> Just to start the flamethrowers:
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> I don't think this White House is going to do that. It would jeopardize
> their rhetorical position, which wants so desperately to be black-and-
> white about states vs. terrorism that they can't see how grey the scale
> really is. Frankly, the only person with the balls to do that would be
> Powell, and he's severely outnumbered by the hawks who are firmly behind
> the Israelis. And yes, I still think Bush is an idiot.
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> I agree with your reading, Fredrik. The money needs to stop flowing.
> The settlers' expansion must end. But Bush can't possibly concede those
> things without losing his rhetorical position, Sharon couldn't accept it
> without forfeiting his life, and so forth. This is an excellent moment
> for the EU as a unit to break from the US line and send a powerful message
> *itself* that the world isn't an American plaything. This is one moment
> for which I'm convinced Gore would have been a better chief executive.
> But somehow I don't think the EU could agree on what to do--its federal
> organs are still too weak.
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> Frankly, I'm becoming more and more convinced that only mainland China
> has little enough invested in the conflict or the alliances therein to
> serve as an arbiter (they're annoyed with both Islam and the US circle).
> But the catch is that they don't *want* to, and in that, they're smart.
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> Just my two cents.
If those were two euro-cents, it would have been me saying it. ;-)
I share this oppinion entirely - especially what you say regarding the
Chinese stand, I think that is a pretty clever reading of the situation (but
then again, China has historically been isolationist outside the immediate
east asian context).
Pedro
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| (...) Just to start the flamethrowers: I don't think this White House is going to do that. It would jeopardize their rhetorical position, which wants so desperately to be black-and- white about states vs. terrorism that they can't see how grey the (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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