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Re: Conflict in the Middle East
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:38:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> > One thing I would really love to see is a good breakdown of the
> > casualties. The categories I would like to see:
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> > - Israeli settlers (with a reasonable definition thereof) killed by
> > suicide bombs
> > - Israeli civilians killed by suicide bombs
> > - Israeli soldiers and police killed by suicide bombs
> > - Israeli rescue workers killed by suicide bombs
> > - the same for those killed by snipers
> > - the same for those killed in cross fire
> > - Israeli soldiers and police killed in battle
> > - all the above categories for Palestinians
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> http://www.idf.il/english/news/nifg.stm
> http://www.idf.il/english/news/graphEat.stm
I can't believe you have quoted the IDF website. I looked for details of
their attack on the Jordanian village of Qibya in ‘53. The day after the
attack a UN observer said that the IDF had forced civilians to stay in their
homes whilst they were demolished around them. 69 civilians were killed -
over half of them women and children. The attack was lead by Major Ariel
Sharon. The same Ariel Sharon who calls Arafat a murderer.
The basic points of the IDF "Security Doctrine" are at odds with reality:
http://www.idf.il/english/doctrine/doctrine.stm
Scott A
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> this only shows the Israeli casualties though... I don't know where to find
> the Palestinian side. Also all these are easy to verify (cnn, ruiters),
> unlike some of the PA claims.
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> Dan
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| (...) so you're not saying that what I quoted was wrong, just that they were missing some info? perhaps. BTW, that attack in '53 is taught today, still, in IDF basic training as an example of an "illegal command", which a soldier is not allowed to (...) (23 years ago, 4-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) (URL) only shows the Israeli casualties though... I don't know where to find the Palestinian side. Also all these are easy to verify (cnn, ruiters), unlike some of the PA claims. Dan (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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