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Subject: 
Impartiality, like beauty, is always in the eye of the beholder. (Re: Conflict in the Middle East)
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Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:23:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1932000/1932535.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1932000/1932943.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,685133,00.html

Just a quick aside: is the Guardian considered a reputable news source?
Since I have never been to your land, a comparison to the BBC would be
helpful for me since I do have some sense where they fall into place.

The BBC has a charter that says it must be 100% independent/impartial... and
this is checked quite thoroughly. The Guardian is an independent newspaper
(owned by a trust) which is free to print what it wishes without being
libellous. It reports news and carries quite a few opinion columns (mostly
what you would call “liberal”)... and has quite a vibrant letters page! I
read the newspaper almost daily, although the website has one a great deal
of awards:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/article/0,5814,184280,00.html

Suzanne Goldenberg (who I quote above) has won many UK press awards for her
reporting of middle-east over the years. She often states that she receives
large amounts of hate-mail accusing her of being a "self hating Jew" from
Israel’s apologists. This adds to her credibility{1}.

If you mail me you address, I shall post you a (read) hard copy.


Scott A

{1} This is about her - written after she was presented the London Press
Club’s “Edgar Wallace Trophy for reporting of the highest quality” by Tony
Blair (the UK PM):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,486879,00.html
==+==
Journalists are often derided for what they write. It goes with the
territory. They come to accept that however much people cry out for them to
be neutral observers it is impossible to satisfy everybody. Impartiality,
like beauty, is always in the eye of the beholder.

For journalists whose daily work is to report on conflicts from within
divided communities, the problem is far greater. Nowhere is this more
obvious than in Israel/Palestine. The Israeli state has been particularly
prickly about reporting of the current intifada, believing that it has been
on the end of negative press coverage. That view is endorsed by many Jews
outside Israel who carefully monitor newspapers and then set out to pressure
editors they think guilty of publishing material they deem to be
pro-Palestinian.

Spinning must be expected in such circumstances. But since October last year
there is evidence that it has taken a sinister turn, with attempts to stifle
any objective reporting of events. The main target in Britain has been the
Guardian and, more specifically, Goldenberg.

A shadowy ultra-orthodox Jewish group has organised a campaign of
vilification and denigration against her, attempting to undermine her. Along
with editor Alan Rusbridger, the foreign desk and the letters editor,
Goldenberg has received waves of emails, many of them highly insulting and
defamatory, which call into question her professionalism and her commitment
to telling the truth.
==+==

Scott A


So I guess one could say that these people live either actually at war, or
in a de facto state of war, with one another. Sad. Personally, I blame the
intractable, blood-soaked leaders of both sides.

The only smart thing I heard anyone say about this situation lately was on a
TV the other day, someone said something like: "These people will be living
together for a long time -- they can live together at war or in peace."

The reality is that one can apply that statement to the global scene.  The
world is not becoming a larger place.

-- Hop-Frog



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  Re: Impartiality, like beauty, is always in the eye of the beholder. (Re: Conflict in the Middle East)
 
Scott: Many thanks for the information about the Guardian. The hard copy will not be necessary, but I appreciate the offer very much. -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Conflict in the Middle East
 
(...) Since I have never been to your land, a comparison to the BBC would be helpful for me since I do have some sense where they fall into place. So I guess one could say that these people live either actually at war, or in a de facto state of war, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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