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Re: Conflict in the Middle East
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Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:30:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1932000/1932535.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1932000/1932943.stm

...or read Suzanne Goldenberg's report. She describes the camp as "a vast
expanse of rubble":
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,685133,00.html

  Forgive my ignorance, but I want to be clear on something.  Is Jenin a
camp, a town, a camp-within-a-town, a town-within-a-camp, or something else?
I ask because I've heard it referred to alternatively as any of the above,
so I'm unclear of what sort of area is at stake.  That doesn't in any way
reduce the loss suffered by those whose houses were bulldozed, but it would
give me a better sense of the scene.
  In addition, in these articles and elsewhere, is a distinction drawn
between "a town reduced to smoking rubble" and "parts of a town reduced to
smoking rubble"?  I don't see it clearly stated in the article, but if the
destruction is obviously total, then I suppose there wouldn't be much use in
belaboring the point. Again I ask because it would be helpful in
illustrating the scope for me, since "the town" and "part of the town" can
imply very different things.

Thanks,

     Dave!



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  Re: Conflict in the Middle East
 
(...) It's sort of both. Jenin was originally a town. The refugee camp was built next to the town decades ago, and has slowly evolved into a town itself. According to my understandment of the recent events, it was the refugee camp (which is more (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Conflict in the Middle East
 
This is from my memory, so don’t recite too loudly! Dan Jassim probably could give your question more justice. I have never visited but… I think the short answer is "both". On the edge of the town of Jenin exists a refugee camp which has probably (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Well I guess it is only now that the press is getting access: (URL) read Suzanne Goldenberg's report. She describes the camp as "a vast expanse of rubble": (URL) A (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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