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Subject: 
Scariness (was Re: Conflict in the Middle East)
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Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:38:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Trobaugh writes:
> > The only way for a true peace to become a reality in the Middle East is for
> > one side or the other to achieve a complete military victory.  Appeasement
> > got us where we are … victory can bring peace.
> 
> People that prize peace do not express themselves in terms of "complete
> military victory."  And you think I make scarey comments?

I was tempted to reply to James with "this is one of the scariest, most
disturbing posts I've ever read on LUGNET."... but I thought I had better
not! ;)

Scott A

> 
> I think Israel already has complete superiority by way of arms.  Why don't
> they just march on in and commit genocide? Perhaps that will satisfy you --
> conquest "Joshua" style? "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the
> city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with
> the edge of the sword."
> 
> > I personally don't live with the idea that it's ok let my son go out into the
> > world with explosives strapped to his body and become a homicide bomb,
> 
> Is it okay for him to go into the world carrying rifles in a foreign land
> with which to commit homicide en masse? Could he drive or command a tank?
> Could he use a bulldozer to run over people in their homes? Bomb? Rifle?
> Bulldozer? There's a difference? The instrument is not the issue, the issue
> is usage and the intent to kill.
> 
> For the record, I agree that that people should NOT leave their countries to
> commit acts of aggression.  Everyone should stay home with their families.
> The U.S. should abandon aid to the middle east and be totally neutral, if at
> all possible.
> 
> BTW, I'd appreciate it if you would be good enough to remove the name
> "Hop-Frog" from your replies.  I'd REALLY hate for there to be any confusion
> as to the statements that are yours versus my own.
> 
> -- Hop-Frog



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Scariness (was Re: Conflict in the Middle East)
 
(...) Maybe because what James said happens to be true-- you need to think about history to appreciate its wisdom. I will go on record as to saying that Richard's post in question was probably the most disturbing I've ever read in this forum as (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Conflict in the Middle East
 
(...) First let it be said that I don't enjoy the idea of war, I have never personally fought in one and hope I never do, nor do I hope my son has to. (I did spend 5 years with the Sheriff's but that's a whole different kind of battle). What I am (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Conflict in the Middle East
 
(...) People that prize peace do not express themselves in terms of "complete military victory." And you think I make scarey comments? I think Israel already has complete superiority by way of arms. Why don't they just march on in and commit (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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