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(...) I think the strategy is also to announce the desirable features of Messiah 2.0 and then not actually ship it. When others announce their version of Messiah, threaten them. Of course, a significant portion of the user base hasn't even (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Colleen McCullough, who has read thousands of classical sources, writes invocations in her historical fiction that start, "Jupiter Optimus Maximus, of whatever name you prefer, of whichever sex you prefer..." I've not yet encountered this in (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would suggest that its a conceit of your ego that these "things" exist. Love is probably just your nervous system "grooving" with someone else's nervous system. There are lots of popular "scientific" views now that "love" is largely a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, that's what I meant earlier when I mentioned that religions were memes. I'm always curious how religions manage to propagate themselves. Thus, it doesn't seem surprising to me that a religion with a first commandment in which its deity (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I shouldn't talk for Bill, but I think I know what he means... Law v Grace You are saved by grace according to the New Testament. But you show your love of God by following his commandments (i.e. starting with all the Mosaic laws and up to and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BTW, Judaism is NOT the first monotheistic faith. The Egyptian Pharoah Akhenaten, A.K.A. The Heretic King, is probably the first monotheist in history -- believing in a single solar diety -- The Aten. When the same idea was taken up by Moses (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right off, I'm not able to recall much from reading Dawkins (it was half my lifetime ago.) So anything I take issue with doesn't refer to his book. I'd probably benefit from reading it now! (But I've got a pile of new Stephen Jay Gould and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Say, this bring up an interesting point (for me, anyway). I'm curious about something... Over my lifetime, I've heard God referred to as He millions of times, and in more recent years, occasionally I've heard Him referred to as She, but I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, from what I know of Eastern religions, they've always made more sense to me than Western religions. (I'm thinking Zen Buddhism vs. Christianity in particular here.) (...) IMHO, holding oneself accountable to a deity is to ignore the one (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I honestly know little to nothing about eastern religions. But I figure, if there's no god to be accountible to, it doesn't matter if you believe in it or not. It might be a nice little "this is good, this is bad" system that might have it's (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have to say that was a hasty remark of mine. I was saying to myself, "I will not use Altavista, I will not accept somebody's junky information, I will search my books first..." But since I left campus life, the only library I go to regularly is at (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) me (...) how (...) on (...) toss (...) well - didn't you say that you feel god's interest? I never felt that, and never saw anything to even make me begin to think that... (...) when (...) first of all, I did read all through the old testament (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From Erik Olsen's sig: (...) Do both. I go through 6-10 library books a week as well as heavy net use. But I don't watch TV. Kevin --- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) auctions:(URL) to my Lego auction mailing list: (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Consider the following bits of everyday information: * Tanoy message in the subway stating that all trains westbound are delayed * The release date for a software package is May 2000 * Street Preacher (Manic or not) telling you that your soul (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What proof have you looked for? Give me some indication and then we can take this further. (...) You've decided that God is a she just to make things more interesting. That's about as rational as me calling you "Rebecca" just to make things (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, it should be She! --Todd (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is true. God the Holy Spirit is not gender specific. But Greek and Hebrew original writings speak of God the Father and God the Son as well. You can't argue about God the Son - Jesus was a man. God the Father is what Jesus called Him, and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) i love this book too!! the hellhound, the four riders of the apocalypse, the unknown fifth rider ~"grievous bodily harm", the "nice and accurate" prophecies... i smile warmly and laugh just thinking of it. i've always thought it would make a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) kya ~ that was "dream of a thosand cats", one of my favorite sandman stories. if only a thousand cats could have that primal dream simultneously, it would become reality once again. this is impossible though. just try to get a mere three cats (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not Gaiman by himself, but try _Good Omens_ by Gaiman with co-author Terry Pratchett. Pratchett should have written for Monty Python, but Python broke up before Pratchett's career began. I'm not familiar with Gaiman's solo works, so I don't (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I loathe the term "meme." It seems to focus on form to the exclusion of substance, as if ideas were magical incantations that just take over and needn't be analyzed very deeply. I think the meme theory appeals to a void in the mind of bankrupt (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Warning: this message is on-topic. Bull-beggars? Heh heh. I quote more: "Reginald Scot mentions fairies (and nymphs) among bugbears used to frighten children: 'Our mothers' maids have so terrified us with bull-beggars*, spirits, witches, urchins, (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Warning: this message is on-topic. (...) I think it is a safe guess that one of Jack's models for Narnia was the fantasy novel _Lilith_ by George MacDonald. It too is remotely based on that Jewish folktale about Adam's other wife. I forget which (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's a good book called _Virus_of_the_Mind_ -- probably available at Amazon or Fatbrain or B&N. (And hey, if B&N doesn't have it, nobody does! ;-) --Todd (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) seen on the net in a loooong time. (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I'm currently interested in what in the world the book was that talked about memes that my anthropology professor mentioned cause now you people have me curious and want to read that. (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) good "starter" Gaiman stuff be? I really liked 'Day of the Dead" that he did for Babylon 5 and I've read a few short stories in Sandman that I liked. (One was about a cat telling other cats how they used to rule the world and chased humans (as (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I just had a thought on that "God doesn't play dice" phrase. If we truely have free will, then you bet that God plays dice (we'd be a living example). So...yeah...just thought I'd throw that one out there. (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) Oh. I never said I believed in the story. I was just throwing in some extra comment to bounce around. No, I believe that Adam's first real family problems started with his children. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Matt. 12:46-50 Matt. 13:55 Mark 6:3 Matthew 1:25 says Joseph "knew her not" until after Jesus was born. So much for perpetual virginity. The "H" stands for holy. Bill (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. His siblings James, Joses, Simon, and Judas are mentioned in Matthew 13:55; this crew plus their sisters are mentioned in Mark 6:3; and brother James is mentioned again in Galations 1:19, and probably wrote the Epistle of James as well as (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Eve (...) I don't think incest would have necessarily been an issue then, from a medical standpoint anyway. With a relatively "pure" gene pool, for example from 1st to 5th generations since Creation, incestual couplings would produce far fewer (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't know Mr. and Mrs. OfNazareth(aka Mary and Joseph) had other kids. Seriously though, does anyone know where it tells about His brothers and/or sisters? I've always heard He had brothers but never read it anywhere. Also, where did the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think he had a sister named Faith. {:^D Bill? (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought that it said that we were saved by Jesus. :D Ben Roller (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most definitely, tons of it. Usually comes from having preconceived ideas or from a lack of drawing conclusions until processing all of the facts. The bible must be viewed as a whole to try to get the overall picture. Too many christians make (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't want to be picky, so I almost didn't post this, but... It's important to realize that not every religion has a God. That is, I think, one of the more common differences between Eastern and Western religions. Ben Roller (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wouldn't say "some" disagreement. :) Ben Roller (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) brought (...) Abel (...) find (...) That was the point above about the 130 years, enough people could have existed at that point to have migrated to Nod and settled. 130 years is a long time. It's 135 years back to the civil war, to put that (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't even see his message till I saw a reply to Selcuk's reply to it on another group - I had stopped reading .reveiws. Hey... you know the saying, "don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes" <g>. Let them creep out of hiding and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First off, my translation of the original, hebrew 2nd commandment: "You shall not make yourself any statue and any picture". It originally told the Jews not to create or worship images and/or statues of the dieties. These were very common (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's, IMO, just to explain it so that there was no incest. I don't see why it couldn't be true though (as it is not mentioned either way in the Bible). As far as I'm concerned, if it's not mentioned, it didn't neccessarily happen or (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Isn't there some disagreement over this between the various christian sects? Kevin (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) have (...) meant (...) Well, if God's going to hold you accountable for what you've done with what you know. (And that's the impression I get from reading Romans 1 and 2) Then don't you think He would take the time and make the effort to let (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep. Not only that, but he'll bear a mark on his forehead, the curse mark. (...) Actually, there are many other theories that say that even though Adam and Eve were the first couple, they weren't the only one. That God had later created other (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) or (...) Oooh, one more thing. I found in Psalm 93 where it says that God is clothed with majesty and strength. I know it's in a poetic format, but I betcha if you could see God, there'd be so much beauty and light surrounding Him (like Isaiah (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) or (...) Okay, well that obviously isn't in the Royal Book. And it doesn't really make sense. Here, in the perfect Garden of Eden, where there's no sin, except for a serpent. I honestly know nothing of Lilith. It's not a good policy to drag in (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hurmph. I have still yet to see anything that tells me that God "cares" (not to mention exists). The only reason that I can't say I don't believe in god is that I admit the possibility that such a being does exist, and it's beyond me to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) commandments (...) grace (...) book (...) That's not at all what those verses say. Gal 3:18 is as follows: For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise; but God gave it to Abraham BY PROMISE. Abraham had nothing to do with (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am reading right now Colleen McCullough's _Caesar_ (book number 5 of her excellent novels) and there is a passage where she has a fictitious conversation between Caesar and the chief Druid, Cathbad. Caesar is anxious to make an impression, (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) According to KJV Galatians Ch. 3, in particular verses 18 and 21, the promise given to Abraham for fulfilling those laws is still valid, even after some were made redundant by Christ's ministry. Granted, the speaker gives a fair amount of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pretty dead on. Satan didn't mess it up. You're right, God knew this would happen. If you read Genesis and Revelation, the beginning of the first is the same as the ending of the latter. Everything in between has to do with God's plan of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hell management to open a piano bar) is being continued in an ongoing series by another great brit writer, mike carey. yours truly is getting ready to embark on the illustrations for a back-up feature or guest issue of the book. i just (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despite the size of this thread, I don't feel this question has been answered yet. There are many places in the Bible that God specifically says "there are no other Gods (deities)". So God clearly denies the existance of other Gods. (See a few (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) worship (...) sabbath (...) was (...) Sabbath, (...) In the New Testament, all of the commandments are repeated, not as commandments but as exhortations to fufill the law of love, (because we are saved by grace not by our deeds) all are (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know if it was mentioned in RELIGIOUS texts, but C.S. Lewis mentioned it in "The Lion, the witch & the wardrobe", which is definitely christianity- influenced... (Not to mention it's like a bible to me :) I love Narnia!) -Shiri (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It never says "forever". It just says he'll be a fugitive and a vagabond (...James VagaBond) sorry. Also, it doesn't say there were only four people at this point. It says she gave birth to them two and then it says, "in the process of time" (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We never left it. Fridays are (IIRC) typically slow days for traffic on Lugnet, for a bunch of reasons. Today, that low volume is combined with a fast-paced debate (not the first, won't be the last), so it looks a bit weird on the stats, but (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Besides, we're having fun. ;) James (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't know exactly which message you mean (I can guess) without a group and message number, but if you can point precisely to it (send me an email) I can cancel it upon your request. However, I can't (won't) cancel other peoples' replies (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Outside of .off-topic.debate, certainly please -do- complain...but here in .off-topic.debate, this is on-topic. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) S'okay, Erin. I was just playing around. I hope there are no hard feelings? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay, I may have made a .........er............terversial error in posting that message, so.....Todd, please delete my message (and if you could, all the messages in reply to my message) Thanks. Erin -- "The only god minifigs believe in, are the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Love that word! Anyway, this thread is more interesting to me than the Loud Urguments about Goofballs, erm, presidential candidates. :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay, if I can't complain about religious discussions on a Lego newsfeed, then I might as well get myself in trouble by stating my views. =) Okay, so let's start at the beginning. (Of sorts) God creates everything, and finishes up with Adam and Eve. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why do you feel that way? I am of the understanding that in the New Testament, the law of the Sabbath was never revoked. Christ challenged many laws concerning activity on the Sabbath, but as far as I can determine, Christ never denounced (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because they were naked. It doesn't say that they were ashamed of what they did. They said that they hid because they were naked. If you think of it as they are equal with God now (that they know everything like Him), they still would have (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's equally pathetic to believe that God is a male. You're limiting the supreme power with gender. (...) Don't be so sure of yourself. I've seen translations that use Mother and She instead of He. I don't need that, but if I had a twisted (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...? Which role playing games? I'm sure the game company lawyers would *love* to argue that they had the idea first, but Lilith is a valid character from several ancient religious texts. I found the reference: Lilith is mentioned early on in (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Todd, you might be interested in reading "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson. It's a slightly goofy cyberpunk novel that toys with the concept of religious memes. Josh Spaulding josh_spaulding@hotmail.com (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aaron, Probably, you would be better off entering the groups through the Traffic Report web page: (URL) using a real newsreader. The .off-topic.* group hierarchy was created specifically to give a place for debates such as this, rather than (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em: I'm interested in what the commandment about "no graven images" originally meant and what it means now. Can't remember off hand. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) make (...) selected (...) he (...) Not so much provoke the man, but do what Christians (and Jesus Himself) have been trying to do for the last 2000 odd years - show that Jesus is the Saviour they've been waiting for, and demonstrate this (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) the (...) Neat (...) YOu know, I don't like the idea of future generations getting their theology from role playing games. Markus (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The reason I'm interested in knowing what the 1st Commandment originally meant (or, more importantly, from an evolution-of-religion point of view, what it means to people nowadays) is because religions are memes vying for dominance in the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) devil. (...) Absolutely! But only if acted upon. Bruce (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay, when I check the compact list of new messages and 90% of them are in the religious off-topic thread, it's time to stop! Everyone, can we get back to the Lego stuff now? =) Aaron -D'OH (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One things for sure. When it all comes down, it doesn't matter how many arguments I have for or against anything. I think at the end, God will have a bigger case. -Markus (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A lie spoken into the proper ears can destroy a world, ne? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wasn't Lillith mentioned in some other religious text, perhaps Babylonian or Phoenecian? Evidently, Adam's first wife was Lillith, who left due to interpersonal incompatabilities. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) go (...) It's a neat debate. Nowhere that the war in heaven is described (which is not that many places), does it say that the fallen are stripped of power or status or title, just that they are cast from heaven. Neil Gaimen has some neat (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, I just had an insight to what the problem is. I bet some of the people who are complaining read Lugnet from the main page, which consolidates all the newsgroups. Perhaps the top page should not consolidate the off-topic hierarchy (I'd also (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yep! My goof. Sorry about the confusion. See, I had this most interesting conversation with an associate last month, and it's still fresh in my mind. The person I was talking with was absolutely convinced that indiscriminate violence is (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aaron is quite correct. Adam and Eve had the opportunity to live for ever in the Garden of Eden, as long as they adhere to a few simple rule. Not so unreasonable, as the Garden belonge to God. Much like were here in Lugnet on the condition (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) stories (...) could (...) That is indeed in Genesis. It's been the source of any number of cheezy things, including much of White Wolf's back story for their Vampire:The Masquerade RPG. It also talks about Cain, after being sent away for (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See July 98 National Geographic, "Dinosaurs Take Wing". I have seen no report of them being fake in any scientific journal, newspaper, or on-line source. Bruce (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if that god were God's dad? I'd take satisfaction in my kids if they perform well, and avoid usurping them unless there was no other alternative. Just a thought... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Cain is said to have never died, being cursed to walk this world forever lest he enter the next. But I could just be remembering a terrible mini-series, I dunno... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) of (...) That's what makes God even more amazing. The fact that He is all powerful and all knowing and all creating, and yet desires to have a relationship with us all. He has stated this countless times throughout history. His greatest (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yah, I forgot about that one in the heat of debate. So it was a combination punishment / preventative maintenance decision, then. (...) Wha--?! Whose side are you on? ;-) But I dunno; I still consider Satan's speech at least a half-lie, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As cool as that would be (and you could just say it was a misprint, or that he was faking it or some other excuse to make that type of story), it is "known"(1) that he died. Eve on the other hand is not mentioned after Cain and Abel are born. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know its OK. I was just growing tired of it dominating Lugnet. I'm sure it will get back to normal soon. (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmmm, interesting. I'm one who feels that Lucifer has no power (over the living). None. Zip. Nada. All he can do is lie. Assuming there is a devil. Other than politicians. OOooo...ooo..... :-) Bruce (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's entirely what my reading of the situation was too. Top kudos for *not* flaming him though - you showed infinately more restraint that I would have, had I caught this thread earlier. Richard (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I heard it on the radio news - AP or USA - they were going to exhibit them and then it was announced that they were fake. Best I can do. Bill (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, hey, does this mean that there is some confusion or ambiguity as to whether or not Adam actually did die? Or is it known beyond the shadow of a doubt that he did actually _for sure_ die? Assuming it's not known absolutely for sure, have (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rick: The .off-topic.* groups (_especially_ .off-topic.debate) are specifically for non-LEGO topics. It's perfectly OK for people to be discussing non-LEGO stuff here in .off-topic.debate. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, back on the farm, we had a couple of roosters who wanted to kill each other. Not for the purpose of eating each other, but for control, I think. They would fight to the death if we'd let them. (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ummmm, that's exactly what I said. Muslims forced people other than Jews and Christians to convert. Bruce (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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