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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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Sat, 4 Mar 2000 04:31:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
Markus Wolf wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
Wasn't Lillith mentioned in some other religious text, perhaps Babylonian • or
Phoenecian?  Evidently, Adam's first wife was Lillith, who left due to
interpersonal incompatabilities.
YOu know, I don't like the idea of future generations getting their theology
from role playing games.

...?  Which role playing games?  I'm sure the game company lawyers would
*love* to argue that they had the idea first, but Lilith is a valid character
from several ancient religious texts.

I found the reference:  Lilith is mentioned early on in Babylonian-Assyrian
legend as a demon or banshee of some sort.  The even older tale of Gilgamesh,
from Ur, mentions a similar spirit by the name of Lillake.  Lilith is also
mentioned in Hebrew and Arabic folklore, as an extremely hairy posessor of
men's bodies and crib killer of infant boys.


According to some Hebrew myths, Lilith was created from dust as Adam was.
This helped lead to her downfall as she felt she was equal to if not better
than Adam; Adam tried to restrain her with force, and she eventually left him
in a fit of blasphemy.  Adam discovered loss, God created Eve using Adam's
rib, yadda yadda yadda the rest of Genesis.

According legend, anyway...

Cheers,
- jsproat

--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@io.com> ~~~ http://www.io.com/~jsproat/
Card-carrying member of the Star-Bellied Sneech Preservation Society

    Okay, well that obviously isn't in the Royal Book.  And it doesn't really
make sense.  Here, in the perfect Garden of Eden, where there's no sin, except
for a serpent.  I honestly know nothing of Lilith.  It's not a good policy to
drag in Babylonian anti-Jehovah (for lack of a better term, kind of tough to
say anti-Christ that early on) legends.  I have no doubt that there was some
demonic entity that called itself Lilith and gave itself some special place in
history.
    We know biblically that Cain and Abel were both children of Adam and Eve,
and that they had other sons and daughters.  If Cain had got together with a
demonic host, God would've taken care of that issue the same way he dealt out
the flood.  If not, there would be danger in tampering up the bloodline of the
Son of God.
    I know you didn't refer to the RPG.  Someone else had. I was responding to
that.  But my point is that it's dangerous to use extra-biblical sources,
especially from anti-biblical religions to develop your beliefs.



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  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) to (...) Oh. I never said I believed in the story. I was just throwing in some extra comment to bounce around. No, I believe that Adam's first real family problems started with his children. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) FTR, I'm the one who mentioned the RPG. As an aside, that had nothing to do with my point, and certainly not as a source. If I wasn't so impervious, I'd be insulted that someone thought I was dim enough to do that. James (URL) catching up on (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) ...? Which role playing games? I'm sure the game company lawyers would *love* to argue that they had the idea first, but Lilith is a valid character from several ancient religious texts. I found the reference: Lilith is mentioned early on in (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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