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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:21:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:

Consider this:  Lucifer was an angel before his fall, and one of the
brightest.  Literally, the son of the morning.  (1)  After his fall, he has
been working diligently towards thwarting all that is good, promoting
politics, etc.

But even after his fall, his powers are *still* significant.  And he didn't • go
alone; he took a bunch with him into banishment.  I figure at least a few of
those fallen angels were nearly as powerful as Lucifer as well.  While they
aren't necessarily world-creating gods, they certainly have a nearly-god-like
influence over our lives.  So yes, compared to you and me, they are powerful
and arguably gods of some type.


Hmmmm, interesting.  I'm one who feels that Lucifer has no power (over the
living).  None.  Zip.  Nada.  All he can do is lie.  Assuming there is a
devil. Other than politicians.  OOoooooooooo.....   :-)

It's a neat debate.  Nowhere that the war in heaven is described (which is not
that many places), does it say that the fallen are stripped of power or status
or title, just that they are cast from heaven.  Neil Gaimen has some neat
twists on this in his _Sandman_ series.

(I *like* Gaimen's work.  A lot.  He is one of, if not the, best modern
storytellers.)

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/

  gaiman rules!  his lucifer storyline (in which morningstar retires from
hell management to open a piano bar) is being continued in an ongoing series
by another great brit writer, mike carey. yours truly is getting ready to
embark on the illustrations for a back-up feature or guest issue of the
book. i just completed a short story with mike for vertigo's FLINCH
anthology. titled "the wedding breakfast", it will be out much later this
year in issue #15 or 16. (end shamelesss self-promotional plug) buy multiple
copies of the issue! it means more royalties, i.e. more lego for craigo!
(ok, now it's really over. ;-)

   gaiman's recent short story colections are truly great indeed, but his
broad scoped work on sandman does qualify him as one of the ggreatest modern
storytellers, for sure. (oops here comes another one...) i've done two
sandman pictures; one in in "the gallery of dreams", and another in issue
#50.  (neil has been promising me a sandman story to illustrate for years.)
the "starlight" graphic novel illustrated by charlie vess is absolutely
amazing! have you seen the bbc production, "neverwhere", written by neil?
it's supposed to air in the states at some point.  also a film of "death ~
the high cost of living" is in the works. oh, and there's also his
hysterical colaborative novel with terry pratchet, "good omens." i keep a
witch's windship built to decorate the section of my bookshelf where this
tome resides. willa could be agnes nutter!  (forgive the mention of lego in
off-topic, ok?)  ;-)

  later ~ craig~



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