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  Re: Eric's mouth problem (was Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07)
 
(...) SNIP Nice going you guys! only 6 more before the thread gets suppressed! Keep at it!!! Legoswami (19 years ago, 25-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Tim, thank you for your honesty. Then I too am sorry. I was p**ssed as well. I'll take your advice. Though I generally try to already. I don't want to chase people away, but I will confront those who have ill will towards me. Either way, I am (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Hi Eric, I'm sorry for the insulting tone in the parent email. You p**ssed me off and I was a lot ruder than I should have been. I would suggest that both you and I need to be less rude to other people. Either way, I am sorry for being nasty. (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Man, feeling quite proud of himself, then went on to prove that black is white and got himself killed at the next zebra crossing... -HHGTTG--the next bit. You can read volumes into this, but basically, even though I know that DA was a 'devout (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Eric, if you post to a public forum, it is viewed by the public who may wish to comment on your public post. As an aid I have included a link to the wikipedia article explaining what public means. (URL) If you wish instead to address your (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) It was Eric who brought up this point about number of responses, I merely pointed out that by his argument Bonktron was quite valid too, contrary to his previous posts. I take it then that you agree with me that it is not a good measure of (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) In the same manner as are you, Dave! :-) But I have faith in you, Dave! For I believe that you embrace the sentiment of Socrates' statement (about arguments, and Truth): "For I would give the wisdom of Daedalus, and the wealth of Tantalus, to (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Having done just that, I have a few observations: First, some of Socrate's initial arguments would have to be reworked assuming a single God. But I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem for Plato;-) Overall, this discussion simply reiterates to me (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) And flying swastikas are doing well, as are just about any lame topic that is widely and incorrectly cross-posted. A post about a dying MOC is a lot more interesting to me than the bulk of the posts that I've seen in the last month in .space. (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Heh. Not as well as I'd like, to be honest. My knowledge of modern history is embarrassingly feeble, and I have no ear for modern poetry, either. Most of the meaty entries on my "stuff I've read" list came about in college, though I still like (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Just how well read are you, Dave!?? Wonderin'... Dave K (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) (URL) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Good question. Additionally, it must be stated that if our notion of "good" emanates from some entity, then we have no means of objectively assessing that entity's "goodness" or "evilness." (...) This would be a good time for us all to review (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) God's love, what a joke. Send all the sinners to Hell, but love them. Riiiight. (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Right back atcha - WHY does it have to eminate from a Superior Being? What is so hard to understand about the fact that Doing Good is Good, regardless of your "reward" (which, in your case, is Brownie Points To Avoid Damnation)? Good is not (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) To reply to the original before I wade through all the other replies, the answer would be vaguely the same in my experience. Many atheists and those of a rather casual nature about religion contribute through standing organizations, many of (...) (19 years ago, 20-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey, thanks for opening up that can o' worms.... Actually, the offending emoticon in that case was the dreaded "winky"-- a much more complicated and enigmatic tool. JOHN (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Ship: Harlequin
 
(...) Pointy ship = vulgar reference? Sorry, I'm not buying. (...) The original model's gallery on brickshelf uses bonktron with a "b". The header on the message to which I replied uses Pete with a "P". Apostrophes are not quote marks. Junk like (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) ! 
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Not always accepted: (URL) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, Christians
 
(...) "In 1651 the Baptist Obadiah Holmes was given 30 stripes with a three-corded whip after he violated the law and took forbidden communion with another Baptist in Lynn, Massachusetts. " Yikes, I grew up in that town. -Evil Wayne (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Uh, no, Scott, that would be a "joke" (hence, the "smiley", an accepted indication that one is simply kidding). (...) Relax. Sheesh. Ideas are ideas. Some are simply better than others. JOHN (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hmm, is this an insult? In American-English, is being a "lefty" worse than being one of those malevolent "liberals" that everyone bemoans? Scott A (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) And I completely agree with your disagreement. Writing always is never, ever, ever a good idea. I'll change the "always" to "almost always" and then I'll be fine ;). Tim (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) That's why I coined this stunningly witty phrase: preaching to the choir, even if the preacher isn't part of the congregation. Nyuk nyuk nyuk. (...) No. All arguments by non-believers are inherently perfect and sumptuously articulated. (...) (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I absolutely disagree. Unitarian Universalism (which is not all atheists) is generally promotes the idea that there is not an external reward for good deeds. Frank (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey Tim- I knew this would come up:-) Actually, doing good for religious people is more of a response rather than an attempt to curry favor. Christian doctrine is that we are saved by grace alone; God's love is unconditional. One cannot earn (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
--SNIP-- (...) I would think that doing good for religious people is more about personal gain than for atheists. Theists always believe that their good deeds will go rewarded by God or Karma or some other external system whereas atheists care only (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I'm an atheist, and I tend to agree with that opinion, just not as strongly, ie life is about a *mixture* of MEMEME and caring for others. But if your opinion is your best argument, then I don't think you have much of an argument - the article (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, Christians
 
(...) First off, I'd say Moyers is over-reacting a bit. Any Christian who would want to set up any type of Christian theocracy is just as much a fringie as MM is to the Left. Both are to be eschewed IMO. It is not my desire to see the US turned into (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I don't feel obligated. However, if I want the best world for me and my children and my children's children, then helping others build a future for themselves is the best bet. It is a version of the "self-serving" argument. My family (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey, Lenny- Do you support them because you feel an obligation towards your fellow man? And if so, from where does that sense eminate? JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) That's because I'm not, Scott. I am not really a loyal reader of any particular publication, but seek interesting ideas and perspectives from many places, even "lefty" ones:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Thanks for the response, Dave! Okay, so you'd tend to disagree with his supposition:-) What interested me about the piece is the fact that the author claims to be an atheist, so the typical "preaching to the choir" accusation doesn't quite fit (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Heads up, Christians
 
Hey John, I was recently passed an article talking about conservative religion in America, and I'd like your impressions. (URL) > -Lenny (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) -snip- (...) I agree with Dave completely. Another key weakness of his opinion is that he ignores whether atheists could actively support religious charities for non-religious purposes. Although I am an agnostic, I regularly donate to Heifer (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
Hi John I’d never have figured you were a fellow Guardian reader. Scott (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Well, it's an opinion piece, so we can only dispute the opinion as given. I gather that Hattersly considers himself a nonbeliever, but his beliefs are irrelevant to the validity of his argument, of course. Regardless, here are a few notes: (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Heads up, atheists
 
Here's an article to which I am interested in your reaction: (URL) JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
(...) This seems like something of an overreaction to me. If Lego continues to have its humanitarian commitments in place then they will only source from reputable manufacturers within China anyway. If you're worried about them propping up an 'evil' (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dustin Jones wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Here's my humble POV-- We can talk of rights of workers and such, and we can discuss environmental impacts and how bad 'those countries' are for everyone... My problem is that we, (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
One of the main reasons I have always been enamored with LEGO bricks is that they are European. I've always been fascinated with being able to build with bricks crafted in Denmark and Switzerland. I can handle production moving to the Czech (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question about job security
 
(...) Either everyone has figured out that Dubya is an idiot by now, or they refuse to admit it out of party....loyalty. :-) -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 9-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: John Stossel, friend of the wealthy
 
What a blithering idiot. If the gougers didn't buy all of X up, then it would still be available at normal market price... (...) (19 years ago, 9-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
(...) Space is going stronger than ever (URL) elsewhere>... ~Kevoh (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
(...) Funny how the "LUGNET is dead" pronouncements always seem to come from people associated with other (moderated) forums. It's really too bad that you can't be an admin here and (URL) censor posts>, buy why don't you get over it already? Marc (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  John Stossel, friend of the wealthy
 
I've called (URL) John Stossel> a jerk in this forum previously, but this time I mean it. Jerk. (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
At the risk of being told I am quoting out of context, I will leave all of your text here. (...) "..held your nose..." you sir, (up until recently) were an active member of JLUG. you, YOURSELF have said things on JLUG that have explained what you (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) Ah, but if he were English, he would have to ask his mum for permission to marry... us Scots are a little more liberal in that respect. If he were English, he'd also not want me to say this: (URL) NI 1 :Eng(er)land 0>... so I won't! Scott A (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question about job security
 
Hmm. It sounds like he needs to setup and chair a committee to investigate his own ineptitude. I note that he is now accepting aid from those nitwits at the UN... Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Question about job security
 
Why hasn't Dubya fired Michael Brown? Why hasn't Dubya fired Michael Chertoff? While he's been President, has Dubya ever fired anyone? While he's been President, has Dubya ever fired anyone for anything other than a perceived lack of loyalty? (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) Actually, as he has said, he is 17. In the UK certainly, that would make him not a minor (for a lot of things anyway*, confusing world that it is :) ) Tim *Allowed to get married and serve in the army, but not to buy alcohol or vote (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) I had a great-uncle who was a 15 year-old miner before The Great Depression, if that helps. At least, I hear that he was great. Dave! (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) If he lived a country where the age of majority was 15, would you still consider him a minor? (I don't think it is 15 in India BTW) Tim (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Just ignore him, he's a Space Nazi(TM). (...) Is that Tormod 'the modder of bricks' or Tormud 'the Tor of earth' (as Lenny stated) ? pete'Torte'.w (the Tor of desserts) (19 years ago, 6-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: The big disconnect regarding NOLA
 
It must be humbling to see your unilateralist president begging for international help. If people were not dead/dying, it would be funny. Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 4-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  The big disconnect regarding NOLA
 
(URL) the government version of what's going on in NOLA, and there's what appears to be the truth. Tangentially, this blog makes fascinating reading: (URL) (19 years ago, 4-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) I wouldn't directly correlate humans and rats, either. Rats turning on each other in bad situations is an 'instinctive defense mechanism' that they can't consiously do anything about. Humans, on the other hand, even though we have 'instinctive (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
My brother in law in Atlanta paid $5 a gallon. I just paid $2.80 in California, which usually leads the nation in artificially manipulated prices. -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Not for everyone. Those who are wealthy enough not to have to worry about a 60 or 80% increase in the price per gallon aren't going to be affected at all, except perhaps to enjoy a larger profit from their oil stocks. Raising the prices serves (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I hope that some information I can add here might be helpful. I do have a handfull of contacts in Japan that I converse with regularly via e-mail. And even though I have done a larger number of trades - I can only speculate why they didn't (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) That’s discussed at some length in “Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors” by Ann Druyan and the late Carl Sagan. They stress that one can’t always predict human crisis-response based on the behavior of rats, but real-world examples make one wonder (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) What were those tests done with rats in a cage-- a few rats in a large cage with lots of food and water, no problem many rats in a small cage with hardly any food and water--mass pandemonium We've seriously not evolved that far from the other (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Hmm. (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Dear Jake, I am not trying to attack a faceless monster here, I am responding to Lenny's claims that you guys were personally being in some way harrassed/ attacked/ asserted against in my original post. I believe that you love your job enough (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Well, I wasn’t upset because you said that, I was upset because the ambassadors didn’t do the same. (...) You certainly didn’t offend me by the statement. I thought it was great that applications spanned the globe. And disappointed that it (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I know it might be nearly impossible to believe, but I'll say it anyway - the group responsible for this program is much much smaller than you might believe. I know that when you talk about a company, any company, it's extremely easy to turn (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Personally, I don't see the problem. I see a (hopefully temporary) product shortage due to an unplanned for natural catastrophe. Google for "katrina colonial pipeline". There was a BusinessWeek article that came out in the past two days that (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Jake said "The application pool spanned the globe". Maybe "spanned the globe" is now a turn of phrase meaning "spanned europe and north america"? Maybe Jake could share some evidence otherwise? Cheers Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I'm not accusing them, I am accusing their employers. Don't accuse me of characterising people when I have said absolutely nothing about anyone. It seems to me you are just using this thread as an excuse to namedrop. The Ambassadors program is (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) How many of those 30-40 Million people applied to be LEGO Ambassadors? Knowing the people who've made this selection, having met them in person (Jake, Steve, Jan), I seriously disagree with your characterization of them ignoring such a wide (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) I believe that I tried to point out the relativism of my usage of the word 'severe.' My sister is a Muslim, and my understanding above is directly related to my experience of how she expresses her faith in Islam. We often talk about the (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Whereas I fundamentally agree with your words, the 'election platform' of the current president was that, if need be, he'd go 'toe to toe' with OPEC to keep gas prices low. As well, many republicans whined bitterly and blamed Bubba when he was (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) regular is $3-3.50 a gallon in the chicago area. it really depends on the distance from downtown chicago but i've seen it as high as 3.69 for regular. thankfully i have a good bicycle. i've been using it alot. the only thing i can say is if (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
Sorry... had to jump in. (...) Just let me point out here that 'severeity' is something relative. I don't see any problem with the 'severeity' that you refer to. It's their religion, and it's up to them how they should practice it, or not practice (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Hi, Here (France) the price of gasoline is about $6.5 $/gallon (1.40 euros/l) and raising. I have a 45-50 miles (74 km) commute from home to the office (quite the same situation for my wife). To answer to Allister, I have to say the government (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) The government is not responsible for your commuting choices. Low petrol prices are not a right, and they're not likely to get lower no matter how much gets pumped out of the ground. If you're not prepared to pay the market price, your only (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) You're not alone in that regard, alas. Gas prices in my area have jumped $.32 in the last 32 hours, and I expect another bump overnight. That's hardly an increase of 100%, but it still stinks mightily! Unfortunately, oil supply isn't the (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Gas prices in USA
 
The price of gasoline here in the States has been too [@#$%&*] high all during Bush II's reign, and now (thanks to H. Katrina) they're getting higher! I've heard that Gov. Perdue (GA) has ordered gas stations to close tonight at 4:30pm here in (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) And I agreed that the statement was valid. It was the wording I had a problem with. (...) Had it been worded like above I would have had no problem with it at all, and would have looked the topic up or asked about it. As it was you said "Is (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Summarized Transcript of Grover Norquist's 8/29 TV Appearance
 
MODERATOR: Thank you. Government is evil. Except Republicans. GROVER NORQUIST: Let me begin by saying that government is evil, except Republicans.. Despite all evidence to the contrary, government has never done anything that’s not evil, except (...) (19 years ago, 30-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) As Lenny explained, there is a (URL) in Islamic art> of not portraying the human figure. I'm not sure what you found unfortunately worded about my post. I am asking a valid question: is the LEGO Factory TOS' prohibition on the depiction of (...) (19 years ago, 28-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Life size guns and assault rifles on Brickshellf-- opinions?
 
Well, with a pair of nunchuks the worst case scenario is likely a bloody nose (perhaps not the wielder's) or a VERY painful groin (more likely the wielder's!). :-D I do not now, nor would I ever advocate censoring anybody's MOC's, but I would (...) (19 years ago, 27-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) Thanks for the overview Lenny. I do find the wording of the original post quite unfortunate (to put it lightly) but I can see that it is, at least, based on a somewhat valid assumption. On a related topic, I do find it interesting that most of (...) (19 years ago, 26-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) Islamic views on "idols" are quite a bit more .. umm.. severe? than Christian views. Basically, Islam wants to avoid any appearance of idol worship what-so-ever, so images of people are usually avoided. Photographs of friends and family are (...) (19 years ago, 26-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) What exactly do you mean by 'some sort of Islamic thing?'? Are you referring to the way that one should not make images of the Prophet? If so then it is probably some sort of Christian thing too as the Bible is pretty firm about idols. Tim (19 years ago, 26-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Life size guns and assault rifles on Brickshellf-- opinions?
 
(...) That's very interesting. I wonder then, what are your thoughts on a MOC such as this (URL) being posted here? ROSCO (19 years ago, 26-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Actually, there wasn't much discussion of censorship in the LUGNET thread. You may be thinking of the one on JLUG[1], but i thought we'd agreed that what goes on in JLUG should stay in JLUG. Cheers, Allister [1]which didn't transpire quite as (...) (19 years ago, 25-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Really? Looked to me like little more than 'not funny, this shouldn't even be on lugnet', which is a fair enough comment I suppose, but to characterise it as 'honest and accurate' is stretching credibility a bit. 'Off the cuff' might be a (...) (19 years ago, 25-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) I believe Dave Schuler correctly identifies the root cause of the nazi mess here: (URL) response to your questions, You should speak your mind whenever you want. It's amusing to me that those who called you out for censorship wanted to censor (...) (19 years ago, 24-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Refering to this post: (URL) I think you should have taken out the parenthetical part, and the footnote. (...) Yes. Leave the conversation. If you start out talking about LEGO, and after a reply or 2, it has nothing to do with LEGO, leave! (...) (19 years ago, 24-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Life size guns and assault rifles on Brickshelf-- opinions?
 
(...) Does that not cause you neck problems or is it an ergonomic halftrack with memory foam? Jude (19 years ago, 24-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Life size guns and assault rifles on Brickshellf-- opinions?
 
Hey James, Thanks for getting my point and the little accompanying nudge (which was all in fun)! With all the virtual fur flying around here lately, I was really nervous about posting. The last thing I want is to mistakenly start a wildfire, (...) (19 years ago, 24-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Life size guns and assault rifles on Brickshellf-- opinions?
 
(...) Don't go away. Go there as well. Ondrew either will respond, or he won't. I don't care which. Do I look offended? <:^D Cheers, Allister (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: overreaction was Re: More random flaming
 
(...) Hi Lenny, I emailed Suz soon after you cancelled your posts to ask for mine to be cancelled too but they are still here (I probably stuffed something up, it's my first cancelling) so if you (or anyone else) can cancel post 27201 and 27206 for (...) (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: overreaction was Re: More random flaming
 
(...) Hi Lenny, I've asked to have mine removed too for the same reasons. No hard feelings! Tim (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: overreaction was Re: More random flaming
 
(...) Actually, I saw my post as random flaming. But I feel that my recent posts have been over the line, despite whatever good intentions I may have had, so I had them cancelled. Please take that as a sign of my regret for what I've said. -Lenny (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Few things--summer's been insanely busy, but beyond that--nothing to say (surprises me as well...) Swastika ship? Baah. I've seen personal pleasure devices built with LEGO. And the history of the swastika goes far beyond the third reich. If (...) (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I did not call Lenny a racist was Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Although I disagree with the similarity to the "I hear you beat your wife..." argument (what I said was definitely not a leading question) if you see that it can be construed as me saying that Lenny was a racist then I will take the criticism. (...) (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I did not call Lenny a racist was Re: When to speak one's mind?
 
(...) Not to get into it, but if someone states, "I hear you're a racist", that someone did not explicitly say "You are a racist" and can state "I didn't say you were a racist, I just said 'I *heard* you were a racist" Just like if someone stated (...) (19 years ago, 23-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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