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Re: Heads up, atheists
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Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:45:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
Sorry, but this opinion piece is simply preaching to the choir, even if the
preacher isnt part of the congregation. Maybe hes trying to shame atheists
into charitable action. Maybe hes trying to goad uncharitable theists into
action. Who knows? But in any case hes certainly not mounting a convincing
argument.
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I agree with Dave completely.
Another key weakness of his opinion is that he ignores whether atheists could
actively support religious charities for non-religious purposes. Although I am
an agnostic, I regularly donate to Heifer International because I believe in
their mission and methodology. I first learned about Heifer while attending
church as a kid. I support them regardless of whether they calls themselves
Christian or Buddhist or what-have-you. I imagine that many atheists do the
same.
-Lenny
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| (...) Hey, Lenny- Do you support them because you feel an obligation towards your fellow man? And if so, from where does that sense eminate? JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Well, it's an opinion piece, so we can only dispute the opinion as given. I gather that Hattersly considers himself a nonbeliever, but his beliefs are irrelevant to the validity of his argument, of course. Regardless, here are a few notes: (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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32 Messages in This Thread: ![Heads up, atheists -John Neal (18-Sep-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Heads up, atheists -Dave Schuler (18-Sep-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![You are here](/news/here.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Heads up, atheists -John Neal (18-Sep-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Heads up, atheists -Leonard Hoffman (18-Sep-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
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