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Re: Heads up, atheists
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Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:59:28 GMT
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An atheist could easily take upon his or herself that same imperative, but it
seems to me that it would lack a motivating force (except for
self-satisfaction, which argueably isnt altruism anyway).
So, doing good is more of priority for a Christian, and may or may not be for
a non-believer, depending on I dont know what. I still have a hard time
understanding what would motivate a non-believer to do good anyway, if not
for personal gain.
JOHN
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I would think that doing good for religious people is more about personal gain
than for atheists. Theists always believe that their good deeds will go rewarded
by God or Karma or some other external system whereas atheists care only about
their self-respect and the respect of others.
Tim
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| (...) Hey Tim- I knew this would come up:-) Actually, doing good for religious people is more of a response rather than an attempt to curry favor. Christian doctrine is that we are saved by grace alone; God's love is unconditional. One cannot earn (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I absolutely disagree. Unitarian Universalism (which is not all atheists) is generally promotes the idea that there is not an external reward for good deeds. Frank (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Thanks for the response, Dave! Okay, so you'd tend to disagree with his supposition:-) What interested me about the piece is the fact that the author claims to be an atheist, so the typical "preaching to the choir" accusation doesn't quite fit (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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