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Re: Heads up, atheists
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Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:25:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote:
John wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:


I agree with Dave completely.

Another key weakness of his opinion is that he ignores whether atheists could
actively support religious charities for non-religious purposes.  Although I
am an agnostic, I regularly donate to Heifer International because I believe
in their mission and methodology.  I first learned about Heifer while
attending church as a kid.  I support them regardless of whether they calls
themselves Christian or Buddhist or what-have-you.  I imagine that many
atheists do the same.


Hey, Lenny-

Do you support them because you feel an obligation towards your fellow man?  And
if so, from where does that sense eminate?

Right back atcha - WHY does it have to eminate from a Superior Being?

Good question.  Additionally, it must be stated that if our notion of "good"
emanates from some entity, then we have no means of objectively assessing that
entity's "goodness" or "evilness."

Good is not defined by religion, no matter what you seem to stubbornly
think.

This would be a good time for us all to review Plato's Euthyphro.

Dave!



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  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Just how well read are you, Dave!?? Wonderin'... Dave K (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Having done just that, I have a few observations: First, some of Socrate's initial arguments would have to be reworked assuming a single God. But I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem for Plato;-) Overall, this discussion simply reiterates to me (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Right back atcha - WHY does it have to eminate from a Superior Being? What is so hard to understand about the fact that Doing Good is Good, regardless of your "reward" (which, in your case, is Brownie Points To Avoid Damnation)? Good is not (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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