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  The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
and you'll never catch me saying anything different! Not any more! (URL) found that via nosing around on the site after finding THIS link (about writing mistakes, totally unrelated but also good): (URL) via a webcomic! I love the internet! ) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wading in...
 
(...) Greenspan's touch only comes in concert with an administration willing to listen to his advice. He's been Chairman of the Fed since the tail end of Reagan. Daddy Bush refused to heed Greenspan's warnings creating the economic recession of (...) (20 years ago, 30-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Small Rant About Word Usage
 
(...) Perhaps it's the word order that's causing you grief. What if you said, "I call for the ouster of the CEO." No, that's the same, isn't it? Eclectic English and its scrambled semantics! :) Regardless, the definition does seem to be accurate, (...) (20 years ago, 30-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Bird Processors (was Re: Rolling Blackouts)
 
My understanding is that wind turbines do not pose a problem to “local” birds. However, migrating birds can fall ‘fowl’ (pun intended) of them when visibility is low. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A Small Rant About Word Usage
 
Am I the only annoyed by the use of the word "ouster". The definition of this word make no sense when compared to other words with the "-er" suffix. To me the only usage of this word should be in referring to "someone in the process of ousting or (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Ed Andrews wrote: (snip) This is off topic for .fun. It is very clearly .debate fodder. FUT has been set there, and your post forceFut as well. ++Lar (don't make me put my admin hat on explicitly please...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Bird Processors (was Re: Rolling Blackouts)
 
(...) Well, Dave, I don't exactly have the data, but here's an encouraging report, if true: (URL) (20 years ago, 26-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ten cheers for Jake
 
Hello! (...) The issue is not the F-word itself in my as always more than humble opinion. It is just one syllable composed of three phonemes (the sounds /f/, /A/ and /k/) when you speak it out loud, using four graphemes (the letters 'f', 'u', 'c' (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Here on the Wet Coast of Canada, it's a lot warmer than many parts of the US. It is, however, Wet. There was more water than air above ground level today, I swear. "liquid sunshine", they call it :-) Kevin (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Shows what I know. I thought it meant "Church of the Yellow Horse." Dave! (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I'm sure my 13 year old son will appreciate that. :-) (...) How do I get a tan with the top down if I'm wearing a coat? (...) Idiomatically, "Check out the babes." If you want Babelfish, "Seek the girls." (...) I've got that here, south to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) But we leave in the profanity, and nudity, that has to count for something???? (...) We sell coats. (...) Can I have a translation please? (...) Apparently no hockey either!! (...) We sell winter boots. (...) Okay, I'm a Canuck and I don't (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I'd like to the United States of the Left Coast secede and take our world's fifth largest economy with us so that we won't continue to be tax donors to the Deadbeat States that voted for Dubya. Better dead than "red". ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) On the plus side: 1. No Dubya. 2. Real health care, rather than health care if Walmart is forced into providing it (which it won't be). Can't be any worse than Kaiser Permanente. 3. No expensive moronic war to save us from non-threats. 4. No (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I don't think he was planning on making room for you, just your lego! (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Can we have the entirety of the Northeast secede from the Union and be the next Candian province? Think if we had a 2nd civl war, we'd win again? Eh, who am I kidding, we pansies on the Left have nobody lining up to fight :) (...) Well, that (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Far too good to pass up...
 
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me. I lift my (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wading in...
 
(...) HEY!!!! No wandering on-topic in here please! (...) people running out of credit. Better start paying off all those cards now!! But seriously, to me it seems it's just another rotation of the fortunes wheel - sure lots of Americans will go (...) (20 years ago, 14-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Wading in...
 
to the debate forum where I usually don't contribute very much. I just read this piece in the online Yahoo edition of the LA Times. To say that I am concerned is putting it mildly. There is probably little that I can do personally, but if the dollar (...) (20 years ago, 14-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) What, and deprive future generations the ability to see what a Great Job™ he did??? ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Hey, we wouldn't be paranoid if the rest of the world didn't hate Freedom™ and Democracy™ so much. And only 51% of the population confirmed that idiot for the Whitehouse. If I'd had my way, not only would he be fired from the job, but his (...) (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) All I ask about tobacco companies are that the people responsible for hiding cigarettes toxicity and increasing their addictive elements are held personally responsible for their deceptions (i.e. thrown in jail forever and fined so much that (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Ouch! For me, I'm very libertarian where smoking is concerned--Hey, you're hurting yourself if you smoke--if you want to play Russian Roulette with the cigarettes (1), all the power to ya! THis gets into a very big 'gray' area where my tax (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking american guns all around the world is only remembered in the history books. with a paranoid nation which has just confirmed its paranoic government it's not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Whew! That's a relief
 
(...) Yeah, and major combat ended in May last year, (URL) apparently>. ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Whew! That's a relief
 
We're all safe at (URL) last:> "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." Funny. The way I hear it, we're all in constant and permanent danger of being killed by terrorists at every single moment. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Just thought of this one: I think your basis for saying that these establishments should ban smoking is for the employees, not the customers. Basically that if the employees were, say, robots, that it would be ok to have bars that allowed (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) They're open to the public. We aren't talking about esatblishments that close their doors to people walking in. Nontheless, I don't sense we can agree on this issue, as we take a fundamentally different approach towards individual rights. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Where? You have no right to breathe ANY air (clean OR dirty) when on my property, unless I grant it. And conversely I have no right to emit smoke on your property, unless you grant it. Therefore when you're on my property, you will breathe the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) The right to breathe clean air is inherently superior to the right to subject others to the byproduct of your pleasure. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Even if it violates people's rights? (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking is only remembered in the history books. Not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. In the mean time, whatever I can do to clear the air, making it safer for me and others, I'll do. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  IN Transportation Finance Authority to bail out already bankrupt ATA
 
(URL) that the IN TFA is not even supposed to be making loans so they engaged in chicanery to get it done. How is this appropriate? Government should not be favoring one business entity over another. Let bankruptcy function as it is supposed to. (20 years ago, 9-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (US) Social Security Reform
 
From Cato: ' Social Security is likely to be a major issue in a second Bush term. "President Bush has shown that he is willing to expend his political capital in pursuit of a higher goal," said Michael Tanner, director of Cato's Project on Social (...) (20 years ago, 8-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Kind of a tricky line to walk. I mean, getting a job as a stunt man you're subjected to physical danger and harm. Working as a stripper will almost guarantee what (in other industries) would easily be construed as sexual harassment from (...) (20 years ago, 8-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) Well if you're looking for plausible deniability so it's not YOUR fault, it's always better to pick the victim whose alibi is harder to check. :-) The Guardian is foreign but Ohio is larger. You'll have to do a risk assessment yourself on (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) So....I should cancel those bumper stickers that say "Don't blame me, it's Ohio's fault", and change them to "Don't blame me, it's the Guardian's fault"? :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) So you would oppose mandatory non smoking areas as a way to lessen health risks to restaurant workers, then? (...) I agree. Are restaurants and bars public places, though? I would argue not. (...) Has this been adequately demonstrated? If it (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) This apparently came to pass. According to an article in today's USA Today, (URL) County was the only county in Ohio that voted Democratic in 2000 that went Republican in 2004 (certainly other county vote totals shifted in the GOP direction, (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Heh, phew! (...) Awesome! That's what I was looking for. That although you may not accept the CURRENT data you've seen as accurate, that you WOULD be willing to accept data, even though it runs at least SOME risk of being subjective, that (...) (20 years ago, 4-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton wrote: **snip all of that, yours and mine** Let's start afresh, because we've veered into abstract neuro-epistemology that I don't think either of is qualified to address. However, I've been thinking about the (...) (20 years ago, 4-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Opinion hardens against the people
 
...or there is this way of looking at things (From a high volume UK tabloid ): (URL) ;) (...) What friends does Washington have left? Scott A (20 years ago, 4-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Opinion hardens against the people
 
I don't want to hit this too hard, because its limited to feedback from only a couple of dozen people, and there is ample reason for them to exaggerate. That said... When John Howard's party was re-elected in Australia with an increased majority, my (...) (20 years ago, 4-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Sorry for replying to myself, but on that last comment, I forgot to add: (URL) whistles go 'woooo woooooo!'" :-D -Tim (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I'm with Dave on the interpretation of the job issue. As for letting people make their own stupid decisions--in general--sure. Let people choose to smoke, I can't prevent them from doing so in their own home, or among a group of consenting (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Now that's a suprise to me-- Let's say I adamantly insist I'm a P, not a J, so when I test as a J, I manipulated it to be a P. But 58 psychologists rate me as a J, so if you compare my results against EITHER P or J you're right either way? (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) It’s the other way around, with Rh- mothers and Rh+ babies, since the Rh factor is a dominant trait, and an Rh+ mother cannot conceive an Rh- baby (barring extreme and unlikely genetic mutation, that is). (...) At present, only a tiny handful (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Wait a few years and move to Australia (URL) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Makes more sense. If you're a patron, you generally get to choose not to enter the smoking section (except in cases where it's inconveniently placed between the restrooms and the rest of the restaurant, like the McD's from my home town). If (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Hahhahahahahahahahah...ahahahhaha ohhohohoheeeheheeegu...ghingmy... Admittedly, it's the state that most conservatives like to whine about because it is big and influential, but most liberal? Don't make me lau...oops, too late. :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) That's actually untrue, based upon the statement by the test's owners. (...) Before I answer, I have to ask what's the point of this hypothetical? We're back to the Infinite MPG car; it doesn't exist in reality, so comparisons between the car (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) But it only allows for manipulation by the testee, which is why I changed the example. In this case the testee might have initially TESTED as an INFP, and changed their mind to ISFJ, only to be contradicted by the 100 psychologists. Plus, (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Hi Scott--haven't seen you in ot-debate for a while... You raise several points, so I'll try to address them in order: If three or ten or fifty people want to marry, why should this trouble me? This type of union may (or may not) be (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) While I mostly agree with you Larry, are we ready to open this box? If we agree that government should not interfere with any type of "Union" are we ready to accept the full repercussions of that decision. The immediate effect would be the (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) No contest there. I do think we should allow people to make stupid decisions for themselves - if you choose to take the job at the bar, you accept the risks that go with knowing you're working in a place that allows smoking. (...) If 80% of (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I'm more than convinced it should be a law. When the smoker's right to smoke and the citizen (worker, patron, or other)'s right to breathe clean air are in conflict, the right to breathe clean air should always win. The economics are quite (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) That would be true ONLY if the test did not allow for tweaking. Because it allows for post hoc manipulation, your objection does not apply to this shortcoming. (...) In the absence of other evidence, personal testimony is not sufficient to (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Hmmm. So the point is to protect the employees of restaurants from smoke? Not about being able to have dinner in a smoke free room? Shouldn't that be left as a choice for the people who work in the bar? I've no problem with a smoking section, (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) If someone is rated as ISFJ by the test and as ENTP independantly by 100 psychologists, I'd call that pretty falsified as far as the test procedure itself. The categories themselves on the other hand, that's indeed another issue, and not (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
This from a smokefree activist list I subscribe to... Unfortunately, workers lost the right to breathe smokefree air in all workplaces in Toledo and Duluth. No barhopping there! :-( Now for Illinois in 2006, I hope! -Tim -- There is mostly good news (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Throwback? I'm pretty sure I had to get a blood test when I got married way back in the dark ages of 2000. The way I understood it was to make you aware of any Rh incompatibilities - which can be an still issue as far a having children (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I used to have a friend who gave herself a tarot reading at the end of each day to help her assess her day's events. If it helped her focus on her life in a productive way, then that's fine, and there's no harm in it. If the cards (ie, the (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Given the sheer numbers represented by organized religion in this country, and how strongly many members feel about certain issues, you can shout it until you're blue in the face, but the only way it'll have any affect is to pass an ammendment (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) The whole license thing is probably, in part at least, a throwback to the days when you had to get blood tests to ensure blood-type compatibility before they'd allow you to get married. Ironically, that's an issue that wouldn't matter at all (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Well, since the returns were suggesting that this is going to pass 2:1, it looks like this is a good time to bring this thread back into play. Michigan doesn't really have a reputation as a gay-friendly State (outside of Saugatuck, at least), (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can we help?
 
(...) Moving production to to a country with less-ethical business practices might make it easier for people to copy your work, but that would depend on the business you chose. There is production that goes on in China, carried out by reputable (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Personally, I would take any of these observations! :-) Bob (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Awesome. The only question that remains is "how much of a 'great deal' of accuracy is needed?", and to show whether or not M/B does or doesn't follow. (...) I think we've agreed on that from the start-- I would argue that while SOME job (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can we help?
 
(...) Full movie, I can see (again: camcorder, DVD recorder, stack of blank DVDs), but was it the full DVD? Did it include any of the special features or menu screens? (...) Maybe. Maybe not. It depends on how much of the concept-to-box production (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Well, I think it's results are more useful that a lame "Bob's a great guy." In some ways, I wonder if the greatest value isn't in the actual results, but in understanding what the different categories are supposed to be and that people really (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I'm sorry, but this hypothetical example doesn't interest me. Suppose I posit a car that delivers infinite gas mileage--wouldn't you buy it? Heck, yes! But what's the point? It's not difficult to create examples that have no relation to (...) (20 years ago, 2-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Hm. Here's a question. Let's say that some old kook of a witch doctor uses tea leaves to predict the names of who his clients will marry (or perhaps clients ask who "friend X" will marry). The leaves predict 49,928/50,000 people's marriage (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: FYI
 
(...) Yikes! Good luck to you, in that case. Last week my wife and I received conflicting info re: our polling place, so I was gratified to learn that our initial information was correct (and it's only about a block from our house.) Good luck to all (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Well, I have the sense that this website is somehow connected with the M/B test: (URL) the site is replete with purchasing opportunities. Similarly, this website is run by the owners of the Meyers-Briggs instrument, and they seem more than (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Hmm, I've never seen it used or marketted in that way. I've mostly seen it used as a self exploration tool, and perhaps a tool for understanding one's co-workers a bit better. Frank (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Well, it was designed, was it not? And presumably the designers made deliberate choices to include some results and not others, right? QED. (...) Sure, they *may* do that, just as tea leaves *may* tell you who you're going to marry. Let me (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton wrote: <snip> the (...) <snip> (...) Hate to intrude... From my experience with NB from back in college, I recall that there are usually an equal number of questions to help define each personality (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) "Deliberately" general? Got any empirical proof? :) I wouldn't say it's useless at all, except insofar as it IS error prone. If its category divisions are indeed correct (I'd say they seem to be), they may indeed help us understand how people (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
Some of my thoughts on Meyers-Briggs: I have taken this evaluation twice (though I'm not sure if either time was the real evaluation and not just a quick evaluation). The first time I came out INTJ (though very close to the middle). The second time (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) So is it respected, or not? The test is indeed used as a predictive tool, so if it does not function in this capacity, then it should be abandoned. But your wife is correct--the tool has no predictive power because its predictions are so (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Fundamentally, I prefer the way things are : God doesn't exist, so I'm free. Free of being good for myself and others, not because some Gog decides that's the way to go. However, I'm not the only human on Earth. I cannot decide for others. So (...) (20 years ago, 1-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
-snippity- (...) -snipity- I've been following the debate for a bit here, but I'd say this is the core of the problem. Psychology is not a pure science like physics, chemistry, etc - and therefore does not operate on the same basis of scientific (...) (20 years ago, 31-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Here I stand, I cannot do otherwise.
 
Hello! Because I am not pagan but Lutheran I'm not celebrating Halloween but Reformation Day. That's the day when we commemorate the start of the so called Reformation that began with Dr. Martin Luther nailing 95 theses against the practice of (...) (20 years ago, 31-Oct-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.castle, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Not really-- because as I've said I've seen what I believe to be evidence of it yielding *correct* results. And, as I've said, it IS (for my part) falsifiable, because if I had measured someone (say) as indecisive, and they took the test and (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: WARNING--Not Suitable for Children
 
(...) Ah, you must've seen (URL) this>. Happy Halloween, Don (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) This is part of the problem. You're implicitly assuming that the test is a valid instrument, and that therefore the only way to disprove the validity of the test is to take the test (which is designed not to yield falsifiable results) and make (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Well, here's the juicy bit. It's sort of like a Christian believing in God. You can't disprove it, they can't prove it, but they have what they feel is evidence, based on "a feeling" or "an intuition": With me, I'm pretty gosh-darn indecisive. (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: WARNING--Not Suitable for Children
 
(...) So, let's see. We have a two and a half minute video of Dubya playing with himself, while Edwards is attended by an assistant. Well, given the masturbatory domestic and foreign polices of the Dubya administration, I'm not surprised. (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) But I don't need proof; I'm not the one trying to profit off of the test. (By the way, I can't confirm the correct spelling. While researching it, I've found "Myers" and "Meyers" with about equal frequency, so I'm flummoxed) Because the owners (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Lancet... Ra-Ra-Ra
 
The Lancet (a peer reviewed medical journal of high standing) has published a very interesting paper. It appears to be available (URL) free> if one registers, but synopses are available elsewhere ((URL) CNN>, (URL) The Guardian> or (URL) The (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) If I ever got one of these, I'd probably use it for evil. But really, all it does it turn them off. Where's the fun in that? With a full-function universal remote there are sooo many more options. (...) <plans hatching> Allister (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can we help?
 
(...) SNIP oops-sorry, thanks for the heads up, Lar Jeff (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: FYI
 
Eh, not needed. I used an absentee ballot, so MAYBE my vote here will be counted (after all, I live in FL now). (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somewhat OT: Ever read any Robert J. Sawyer?
 
(...) Simply put - who decides what a crime is? Considering currently what can get you locked up longer than if you *kill* someone, there is no way, no how, that I would support such a system, or anything even approaching it. -- Tom Stangl *(URL) (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Aside from the occassional post-meeting meal with other MichLUG members, no. I could possibly be convinced to do so otherwise, if held at gunpoint, but I have very little interest in sports and far less in hanging out with people who are (...) (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Go to sports bars much? They typically have a LOT more than just one TV or just one channel on all those TVs. (20 years ago, 29-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Easy enough with many DVRs, like, say a MythTV box. (...) I guess having using a pool que or a ladder should work for that - just push the button on the TV itself. Since it's only at start/end of day, it's not unreasonable. (...) Not really - (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) All they'd need to do is set up a single tuner that feeds a single signal to all of the TVs and hide it under the bar. Not only would that be immune to this device (which they claim only works on TV sets), but it would also allow them to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) sentiment. While I was at UCLA, at first the student union food court had one TV, which was over at one end. So students who wanted to watch while they ate would sit over there. The rest of the tables were filled with students studying while (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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