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Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
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Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:09:59 GMT
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On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:00:03PM +0000, Tim Courtney wrote:
> I'm more than convinced it should be a law. When the smoker's right to
> smoke and the citizen (worker, patron, or other)'s right to breathe
> clean air are in conflict, the right to breathe clean air should
> always win.
No contest there. I do think we should allow people to make stupid
decisions for themselves - if you choose to take the job at the bar, you
accept the risks that go with knowing you're working in a place that
allows smoking.
> The economics are quite simple too -- leave it up to the 'market' to
> decide, smokefree bars won't swim. Ban it statewide, and to no
> surprise, business goes up in every case. Banning smoking is not only
> good for the public health, it's good for the restaurant and bar
> business. The only people it's bad for is the 20% [1] of the
> population who smokes, and the tobacco industry [2].
If 80% of the population doesn't smoke, you'd think that smokefree bars
would work, wouldn't you? I've made the choice in the past to go to a
place that doesn't allow smoking instead of one that does. Figure
enough people do that, bars will get the hint anyway.
I just think it's another case of people trying to force their belief on
others. I'm surprised there weren't bans on strip-clubs attached to
these initiatives. I mean, it's not good for the dancers to work there,
is it? How is it different?
--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com
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| (...) I'm with Dave on the interpretation of the job issue. As for letting people make their own stupid decisions--in general--sure. Let people choose to smoke, I can't prevent them from doing so in their own home, or among a group of consenting (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm more than convinced it should be a law. When the smoker's right to smoke and the citizen (worker, patron, or other)'s right to breathe clean air are in conflict, the right to breathe clean air should always win. The economics are quite (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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