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Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney wrote:
> As for letting people make their own stupid decisions--in general--sure. Let
> people choose to smoke, I can't prevent them from doing so in their own home,
> or among a group of consenting individuals. But I DO NOT CONSENT to people
> smoking around me in public, and WILL NOT, unless I am in a smoker's private
> residence (which, for obvious reasons, I rarely go there). I think its
> criminal to force the harmful effects of smoking on another individual who
> doesn't consent, and I'm determined to fight for the rights of all nonsmokers
> to breathe air clean of the filth.
Kind of a tricky line to walk. I mean, getting a job as a stunt man you're
subjected to physical danger and harm. Working as a stripper will almost
guarantee what (in other industries) would easily be construed as sexual
harassment from patrons. Getting paid to be a medical test subject invites all
sorts of unknown physical/mental side effects. Should the government ban such
professions (or "sources of income" since I wouldn't consider "medical test
subject" to be a profession) because they run serious risks? Or is it up to the
individual to say "Gee, that sounds dangerous, so I won't apply for that job"?
> If you dig up articles on smokefree.net, you should find that in any case,
> business goes up with a total ban.
I wouldn't be suprised. I think if I were in the government's shoes, I wouldn't
have a total BAN on smoking, because I'd say it's up to the establishment and
its employees to make that decision, but I would do my best to ENCOURAGE
smoke-free establishments. Perhaps put a tax on businesses that allow smoking,
or a tax break on businesses that are smoke-free. Or both.
DaveE
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| (...) I'm with Dave on the interpretation of the job issue. As for letting people make their own stupid decisions--in general--sure. Let people choose to smoke, I can't prevent them from doing so in their own home, or among a group of consenting (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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