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Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
it. Today, such an announcement is made.
We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
reasons, all of which you can read about at:
http://www.LEGO.com/build
or at the voting itself at:
http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
in your 2 cents!!
Jake
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Jake McKee
Senior Producer
LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
Yepee!
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
I'd put a buck if I could... helàs, I can only vote once. Off to vote now,
6390 come to daddy!
Pedro
(very, very happy - thank you LEGO!!!!)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
So, do we move this over to .general and start exit polling to get a best
guess on which will win? 8?)
Matt
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
OOOOO!! Blacktron I :-D
I have one word, 'space.'
And for you non-spaceheads, remember, that set comes with black shutters.
Jake...you da man!!
-Tim
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Alright! Let's see some space! (or on the contrary,
something cool at that:)
I'm just hoping the next Legend will diversify the
Legend's series. Then Lego Direst's product line will
be a *bit* more stellar.
Just my two brickz...
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Lugnet No. 1112
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Jake, all I can say is, Wow!
Why do you torture me so?
As a fan of Town, I lean towards <Set:6390>
But, as a lover of "my Era" of classic sets, I look towards <Set:6285>
Grrr, Decisions Decisions! :)
Also, one quick question. If LEGO can release the Cypress Tree Packs, why
can't a Cypress Tree be included in 6390? Also, will the old style signs or
the new style signs be included? Thanks for your speedy response.
-John "Vote 6390 for Legend" Rudy
www.geocities.com/TJJohn12
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The voting page mentions some changes required for the yellow
castle, but I didn't see anything about the little red windows.
Could this set possibly come with the real 1x1x1 windows?
I need to know before I register to vote. :)
Don
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> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
>
> Jake, all I can say is, Wow!
> Why do you torture me so?
> As a fan of Town, I lean towards <Set:6390>
> But, as a lover of "my Era" of classic sets, I look towards <Set:6285>
> Grrr, Decisions Decisions! :)
> Also, one quick question. If LEGO can release the Cypress Tree Packs, why
> can't a Cypress Tree be included in 6390? Also, will the old style signs or
> the new style signs be included? Thanks for your speedy response.
I too voted for 6390 for the simple fact that it was going for in excess
of $100 on E-bay, and it would be sold for around $60.
"...it would include new ”rails” for the crane to slide sideways in, new
road plates with a broader road and fewer rows of studs, and a new tree
instead of the tall cypress tree"
This was one of the factors that almost lost my vote...and I am big town fan!!
They have cypress trees out, why not use one of those... and for the road
plates, they better not be the green ones, because that would look really
cheap!! As far as the crane goes, that would be super-cool!!!
I have to agree with the "posting" majority....they should have put this set
out first, not that I am not complaining about the release of the breezeway
cafes, especially at sub $25 (US).
Benjamin Medinets
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
Cool. At Brickfest last year, I practically begged Brad Justus to
re-release the Battrax as the next Legends set. It certainly is nice to
know he listened. Excellent! *crosses fingers*
Adrian
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www.brickfrenzy.com
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Are you able to vote again!?
My internet is not working properly & it stoped loading the pages halfway
though:-( Not the server won't let me try again:-(
Josh
(who is going to change his ISP after dealing with 2 months of CRAP (excuse
my language), not being able to get on for hours/days on end, cheep service,
busy signals, frozen links to ISP... & on & on... NEVER, if you EVER live in
the U.P. of Michigan, use UP.NET!)
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Jake McKee wrote:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
Am I blind, or once again did the question "Why did you come to Lego.com
today?" not have as an option "To vote"? Although there was an "Other"
option. . .
Note: all those cookies recipio.com wants to set aren't needed to vote.
Voting would be a more pleasant experiece if recipio.com didn't try.
Obligatory effusive praise: The best Black Falcon set! It's only a matter
of time, now. . .
Looking forward to hearing about the cypress tree and the windows.
Thanks,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
TWS Garrison
tgarriso@math.purdue.edu
http://www.math.purdue.edu/~tgarriso/
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
Jake,
It seems odd that the voting wouldn't have been limited to one vote per
person...why are we allowed to vote twice a day?
Maybe this would have worked best as a straight poll, with IPs logged?
Matt
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I had to vote for the Barracuda :P
All of the other sets can be built, or very nearly so, from easily accessible
pieces. The Barracuda, however ... those pieces are a treasure!
-s
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This is for the spacies who seldom stray from thier humber section of Lugnet...
SPACE.
(Read on...)
In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> > Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> > reasons, all of which you can read about at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> OOOOO!! Blacktron I :-D
>
> I have one word, 'space.'
>
> And for you non-spaceheads, remember, that set comes with black shutters.
>
> Jake...you da man!!
>
> -Tim
Word there Timmah.
--Kyle
http://lego.kepplah.com
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> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
Hello all...8^)
My two bricks on the potential re-releases:
375 Yellow Castle
Now here is a Legend choice. I can remember seeing it in the catalogs way
back when and wishing I had it. Plus seeing the castle ideas in the old 6000
idea book and wanting one even more. Even if the castle was a strange yellow
colour...this one is an excellent choice as it is one that people talk about
and still want... Would there need to be any changes to the set??? Or can
Lego still release it exactly as it was?? That is definitely something that
should be answered before people commit to it...Would I get it?? Maybe...
6074 Black Falcon Fortress
Cool looking little set, but deserving of being in the Legend line, well, up
for debate. It is a better, more practical castle than the 375 and does have
some very good elements(and projected price is alright to me). Would I get
it?? Probably...
6285 Black Seas Barracuda
Great Pirate ship. Best of all the sets (Pirate) in my opinion. I am also
slightly biased as I own the original (with shooting cannons to boot!). I
bought it way back when for $100 CDN and never regretted it. More than got my
moneys worth playing with it. I loved the monkey and the figure assortment. I
also appreciated the detail that went into it. Would I get it?? No, but only
because I have the original...
6390 Main Street
My first though was "which Main Street???" I always like the fact of implied
playability in it. You had a good number of minifigs included, trees, flowers,
and to me, road plates!! I can't actually recall seeing this set in stores,
but then again, maybe I just don't remember. You can't argue with a set where
you get trees, flowers(!!!!!), lots of windows(glass too), and minifigs. As
mentioned, before committing to it I would like to know exactly what would need
to be changed before it could be released. Would I get it?? YES!!!
6941 Battrax
Don't recall much of this set, but a Legend??? No, I don't think so. Sure
it has some good bits (as Tim I believe pointed out - Black Shutters), but I
don't think it is a good option. Again, would there be need for any changes??
Would I get it?? Not likely...
I am a town fan first and foremost, so that is why I voted for 6390. It is the
most relevant to what I like to build. These are also just MY opinions on the
choices available. I really think that instead of two castle choices they
should have made only one and possibly included a Technic set instead, or
Train, or something!! That would have better spread the choices around instead
of splitting votes(two Castle sets). I realize some parts (especially the
Technic ones) would likely make some sets improbable as re-releases, but if
they have done it once...I also believe that the choice of the Battrax is a
poor one as the set "497 galaxy explorer" would have made a better choice, but
curiously was absent from this list...maybe later this year??? 8^) the 497 is
more of a classic choice than 6941, but for the space fans...well, sadly, we
all can't win...8^/
At least it seems to me that these sets are ones in which they are made up of
bricks/plates and not highly specialized/unique/useless bits like most of
today's choices. Maybe there is hope yet...
My two bricks...right or wrong
Jason Krish
NALUG
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Me too.
Pirates were a theme that ran during my dark age; I'm seriously bummed that
I missed them. No really, I'm crying right now...
I'd love to see a nice big BROWN hull make it's way into my collection.
Groove On.
-Evil Wayne
______________________________________________
"There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
http://www.geocities.com/legomaniac70
In lugnet.lego.direct, Shaun Sullivan writes:
>
> I had to vote for the Barracuda :P
>
> All of the other sets can be built, or very nearly so, from easily accessible
> pieces. The Barracuda, however ... those pieces are a treasure!
>
> -s
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! *snip*
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
> Jake
MAIN STREET MAIN STREET MAIN STREET
Pleeeeeease!!!!!!!!!! Please! Please!
i voted but i was SO excited--this is my all time favorite set
jeff
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Wow! I think it's great for Lego to give us such a great selection to choose
from. While I'm leaning towards the 6285 or the yellow castle, I am
wondering about the comment on the new tree for set 6390. Will this be a
NEW tree (unlike any other) or just a different tree (which doesn't really
make sense after the re-release of the cypress tree)?
Another question I have for other lugnetters...does the town set really have
a "black" cowboy hat? I was under the impression that there were no "black"
cowboy hats. I've been using the adventurer's hat as a substitute!
It's a tough decision! But it will be fun to see what happens...
Thanks Lego...
Tom
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Waa Hoo!
Those are all great sets that I would like to get. Of course being a space fan
my vote had to go to the best space theme ever, Blacktron. I would be almost
as happy with a Falcon Fortress though just for the grey pieces.
-Mike Petrucelli
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
WELCOME BACK, BLACK SEAS BARRACUDA!
Ok, it's a premature statement, but of the 5 listed, it is by far, the
greatest of the 5!
Be sure to vote and bring one of the 5 back (hint: vote for the BSB! LOL)!
-EmeraldOak (Robert)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Well folk, just returned from voting (how could I resist!) and those are
some "interesting" choices. Let me post here what my impressions as a 25+
year Fan-O-LEGO and an owner of what my wife calls,"too much LEGO":
1. Yellow Castle 375--definitely a Legend. It began the Castle theme and
forcast the future of minifigure and thematic sets. If you are a collector
or have never had the set, certainly worth the title. Did I vote for it?
No. I love Castle to death, but I own this one, or could at least build it
a few times over. The minifigures and accessories are not enough to draw me
to it and I'd rather have this set in a different color. Love it, but not
enough to buy it.
2. Main Street 6390--Definitely a Legend. As I said of 375, this set a
standard for the development of the Town theme. As a kid this one was the
center of every city and much of my play with "my old LEGO", the old idea
book really expanded my use of this set as well. Great features and fun, it
would be way cool to see how LEGO would update this one. Complaint! How
can you change the Cypress Tree!?! I can buy a forest of them, but you
won't put one in this set?! That tall tree balances the tall buildings.
Still, worth the money, would buy it for my son as I think they will do this
one. I, however did not cast my vote here, but he did :)
3. Black Falcons Fortress 6074--Awesome set! This is a Legend to me, if
not to others here. This set redefined and redirected Castle into modular
sets designed to be stand alone or interconected. Gray walls make it seem
more realistic and the company of knights seem adequate to post on guard
duty and build an army from multiple copies. The selling points here are
Gray castle walls and corners, Black Falcon Knights (pikemen, bowmen and
cavalry!), yellow Tudor walls, and a low, crazy LOW price point!!! I will
spend all of my hard earned brick money on as many copies as I can get of
this great Castle Theme set!!!! Obviously I am a Castle head and have
placed my vote for the Black Falcon fortress. Primary reason: I can get
bunches of these at this suggested price to add to my own Castle World.
4. Battrax 6941--Cool Space addition, but Legend? I wonder what criteria
brought this model into the mix? This was a very nice set with nice parts
(love theme retro-rubber tires!), but why did they not go back to the
landmark Galaxy Explorer 497 or Galaxy Commander 6980 with just a few modern
changes as those suggested of the first two???? No, not a Legend, but if
the reissue the Blacktron series the way they have done of Western and
Pirate, then perhaps it would be worthy. No vote here. No offense
Spaceheads, just that I know they could do (and MUST) do better. As a
matter of fact, I believe that LEGO will issue a redone 497 around
Christmas. I have money riding on that...
5. Black Seas Barracuda 6285--Ooooo, a Legend for sure. I think a new in
box direct from Lego would be a steal at $100 and I would buy it. This set
has perfect grade play features, parts list and fun fun fun!! I have
drooled over this set for 10 years, passed once on a $75 KMart set (doh!)
and it is now going for anywhere between $100 and $400 on eBay!? But, yes
there is a but, is now the time for this set? Already they have a Large
Pirate set on the market (granted, it is not as cool), perhaps they should
let the other Large Pirate sets sell down before they redo this one.
Personally I love this set and *want* to buy it, just not yet. I think
timing is important with a set of this price point, and there is to much
market competition coming from the Pirate sets currently available. LEGO
get back to me on this one in a year, or after you no longer have Pirate
Battle Ship 6290 available. Not a no, just a not yet vote (gads! My budget
can only take so much!). Way cool though!!!
That is what I think and how I voted. I REALLY want to se LEGO do some
Classic Space reissues with a few modern changes, that would rock! I really
would like to see Pirate and Imperial Guards/Soldiers return in a BIG way.
And I am absoultly ga-ga over LEGO Castle theme, more is better, and I only
have two Black Falcon torsos! So more than 20 Black Falcon Fortress 6074
would be good to add to my collection. And I mean it!
Thank you LEGO Direct for bringing to life old dreams.
-Aaron West-
Lugnet member #279
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Spaaaaaaaaceee.......yay..... *crosses fingers for the Ice-Sat V*
In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
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Thanks, but it didn't work. In Communicator 4.79, it loaded a blank page when I
tried to go to the voting area. (GO button for the surveys area). I loaded it
in IE5.5SP2, and it loaded blank too, so I hit Reload. After that, if I clicked
the GO button, it basically said "you already voted, go away", though much more
politely.
So I never got a chance to vote for 6390.
Jake McKee wrote:
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
--
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Aaron West writes:
> That is what I think and how I voted. I REALLY want to se LEGO do some
> Classic Space reissues with a few modern changes, that would rock! I really
> would like to see Pirate and Imperial Guards/Soldiers return in a BIG way.
> And I am absoultly ga-ga over LEGO Castle theme, more is better, and I only
> have two Black Falcon torsos! So more than 20 Black Falcon Fortress 6074
> would be good to add to my collection. And I mean it!
> Thank you LEGO Direct for bringing to life old dreams.
Yeah I pretty much voted the same way you voted, Aaron, as I feel the same
way about the sets in question. I'm crazy about castle too, so I'd get
multiple copies of 6074 for the grey bricks, walls, and corners. And those
minifigs! I only have a handful of black falcon torsos, and I want an
army!! I gotta start saving up...
In regards to space, I was really surprised they didn't choose something
from classic space. I do have a heart for classic space, so I was hoping
for the Galaxy Explorer. But I'd only buy one of those... My guess is that
classic space will come later in the year - just in time for Christmas perhaps?
As for 6285 BSB, I must admit it's a great set, but the price may limit the
number of sets that TLC actually sells. TLC already has a large pirate ship
available, and the 10001 Metroliner legend is already the $100+ set of the
Legends line...
-Bryan
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>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
Hi Jake and people at lego.direct,
I am not glad about the idea of the legends at all (in the way they are done so
far). I gave my opinions in lugnnet.trains when the Metroliner 10001 has been
released (That is in fact the only train set I never bought and I will not do
it later... I own two or three 4558 and do not need a "faked" copy of that
great set).
Just to repeat some of my statements:
- Legends are legends, because they have been desireable sets: good design +
often rare sets because they have been discontinued since years.
- a re-released legend is no longer a legend, because it is just a mass
product (you have not to desire it any longer - just buy it). If a legend is
re-released it becomes a dead legend in my eyes: might be a cool set, but it is
by far less desireable. (You alway desire most, what is hard to get.)
I would wish, TLC could bring out more new and good designs like the 10020
Santa Fe or the 3451 Sopwith Camel. And if they had a lack of own ideas they
should bring more MOC-sets like the 3739 Blacksmith Shop. But legends in the
way they are released now are not very helpful for lots of fans.
If TLC wanted to do us a favour, they would do major changes to the new
legends. For example the 375 castle:
It has been a great set in 1978. I loved that set and will always love it. But
do I need a "faked" 375 set today? Really not!! A re-release has not the charme
of the original set from 1978. And I do not need yellow bricks for own designs
- does anybody else? I cannot imagine.
But what if TLC would bring a 375 version in basically tan colour (the knights
for e.g. with silver helmets)? That would be really cool in my eyes! I promise:
I would buy at least 5 copies of a tan 375. (And the tan 375 would not hurt any
"collectors" feelings + it has same opportunities for "players" + it has
a by far better brick assortment for "MOCcing people" (like me).
(Same argument was valid for the 4558: a dark grey one would have been very
cool - lots of nice parts for me (and other MOCcers) - same playing value and
challange in building for kids or adults that missed the 4558).
Just my 2c on the legends theme.
Kind Regards,
Ben
(lugnet #448)
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Excellent stuff Jake, I shall be voting but...
I do have one small cavil and I really hate to do it after you have put in
so much work but there has still been no Technic Legend. Is this because
Technic sets are so large that it is feared they would not sell? Perhaps
you could have another poll about what themes should be investigated for the
legend after this one (clearly Classic Space would win but you may get some
idea of the market for Technic!)
Are others at .technic interested in seeing one?
Simon
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> Just to repeat some of my statements:
> - Legends are legends, because they have been desireable sets: good design +
> often rare sets because they have been discontinued since years.
> - a re-released legend is no longer a legend, because it is just a mass
> product (you have not to desire it any longer - just buy it). If a legend is
> re-released it becomes a dead legend in my eyes: might be a cool set, but it
> is by far less desireable. (You alway desire most, what is hard to get.)
Spoken like a collector without regard for what others may or may not have in
their collections. I see this as a kind of greed on your part, pure and
simple. Others, who for reasons of youth or having made different spending
choices in the past, now have an opportunity to pick up something they have
had to do without in the meanwhile. And while the Yellow Castle (more
below) is not my first choice as a rerelease given some of the details, many
others may well want to have one and not have to pay $300 or whatever for
what is in the end mostly just a pile of yellow bricks...! You would deny
them this for what reason? Your elite ownership of the previous release?
I have said it before and I will say it again: lego is not a great choice
for collectors for numerous reasons.
> I would wish, TLC could bring out more new and good designs like the 10020
> Santa Fe or the 3451 Sopwith Camel. And if they had a lack of own ideas they
> should bring more MOC-sets like the 3739 Blacksmith Shop. But legends in the
> way they are released now are not very helpful for lots of fans.
If the new stuff is to be on par with the 3739 Blacksmith shop -- no worries.
If the new stuff is to be on par with bionickels or Galidor, I can't tell you
how glad I am for options to that junk with the Legends line of products.
And consider the cost per set savings if TLC sells older sets it has already
developed many years ago -- they save in many ways, and hopefully pass the
savings on to consumers. I think that's the whole driving force behind the
Legends line right there...
> If TLC wanted to do us a favour, they would do major changes to the new
> legends. For example the 375 castle:
> It has been a great set in 1978. I loved that set and will always love it. But
> do I need a "faked" 375 set today? Really not!! A re-release has not the
> charme of the original set from 1978. And I do not need yellow bricks for own
> designs does anybody else? I cannot imagine.
Well, that one didn't get my highest vote because it will lack the original
knight's headgear -- in my view, this failing makes its rerelease less than
interesting. Given that, the only unique elements that will be offered in the
rerelease will be the yellow steep corner slopes -- which should really be a
parts pack available in most colors. I think the 1x1 "lantern" elements which
may have been the "squared" type originally, will now just be the basic round
one that have been around for years. For those reasons, your precious
original set remains undiminished. Be happy yourself and let others have
their fun.
As to the tan and dark grey variant arguments you raise, I have no arguments
with that either -- just a caveat that the same thing could/should be
addressed by a proper handling of brick bulk/accessory packs.
Anyway, I think I voted for the Black Knight set for the black steep corner
slopes. But I wouldn't care if the rerelease of the Battrax made my 4-5
copies of the original obsolete -- and I am quite sure the elements are such
that they could duplicate this set almost perfectly, I can't think of a
reason that would hex it -- all of the elements have been made until
recently. So great, I have my 4-5 already -- I should care that others pick
theirs up now?
Lego is about playing. There is room in my sandbox for others to have all
of the same stuff I do. I have no sense of competition about it. Why should
you?
-- Hop-Frog
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Oh the humanity!
Oh the torture!
How is one supposed to choose just one?
Should I vote on which I would be more likely to buy? (375 Castle), which I
would most like to have, but probably can't afford (6285 Black Seas
Barracuda), which is most 'classic' (either 6390 Main Street or 375 Castle),
which I have the fondest memories of (6074 Black Falcon Fortress, the only
one of the above I owned), or one from the line I always wish I had bought
(6941 Battrax).. .. noooooooooooo! Now I will not be able to do anything
else for the rest of the day!
plucky - lost in thought...
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> > Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> > reasons, all of which you can read about at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> OOOOO!! Blacktron I :-D
>
> I have one word, 'space.'
>
> And for you non-spaceheads, remember, that set comes with black shutters.
>
> Jake...you da man!!
>
> -Tim
space.
I votes for Blacktron!
Chris <><
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Kyle Keppler writes:
> This is for the spacies who seldom stray from thier humber section of Lugnet...
>
> SPACE.
Yes, I agree with your disappointment. My vote goes to the big, yellow
castle.
Still waiting for Space...
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
>
> So, do we move this over to .general and start exit polling to get a best
> guess on which will win? 8?)
>
> Matt
M'Kay, It was time for a poll change anyway :)
http://www.brickshelf.com/
(poll updated)
KL
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> Anyway, I think I voted for the Black Knight set for the black steep corner
> slopes. But I wouldn't care if the rerelease of the Battrax made my 4-5
> copies of the original obsolete -- and I am quite sure the elements are such
> that they could duplicate this set almost perfectly, I can't think of a
> reason that would hex it -- all of the elements have been made until
> recently. So great, I have my 4-5 already -- I should care that others pick
> theirs up now?
>
> Lego is about playing. There is room in my sandbox for others to have all
> of the same stuff I do. I have no sense of competition about it. Why should
> you?
>
> -- Hop-Frog
I have to jump in and add my agreement to this post. Speaking as someone who
did not have the opportunity to get the Battrax when I was younger, I am
thrilled to have another chance at getting it now that I have the purchasing
power to do so. I couldn't care less if it's "not the original" - it's close
enough for me.
And if one of the other sets happens to win this time, I wouldn't be too
terribly disappointed - I like them all, I just prefer space. Go SPACE!
--
Jeromy Irvine
LUGNET Member #888
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"J. Irvine" <irvinej@accuvera.com> wrote in message
news:GuGM3J.6po@lugnet.com...
> I have to jump in and add my agreement to this post. Speaking as someone • who
> did not have the opportunity to get the Battrax when I was younger, I am
> thrilled to have another chance at getting it now that I have the • purchasing
> power to do so. I couldn't care less if it's "not the original" - it's • close
> enough for me.
I agree here with this - when I was younger I had a couple of small Classic
Space sets but they disappeared a long time ago. With the release of the
Star Wars sets my LEGO interest has been renewed, although I've also started
looking at Space sets for sale. While the Battrax looks dated I think that
adds to the appeal - I would love to get my hands on one of these to remind
me of what I missed in my "dark ages". I wouldn't keep it in the box, it'd
get put together and displayed in my LEGO room (yep, I have a whole room
available to set out my LEGO although my computer shares it too) and
probably let my daughter play with it (and it'd reduce the chance of her
wanting to play with my 8448, although she seems to have taken a liking to
the Snowspeeder at the moment, quite scary for a 2 1/2 year old when she
even makes the sounds of the lasers and the noise of the AT-ATs!). In my
opinion LEGO isn't for stacking away in the hope it'll be worth something
one day, I enjoy building the sets and watching the sparks of creativity my
daughter shows with her Duplo and my LEGO.
Dan
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release!
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set.
If the 6941 Battrax (<set:6941>) is not choosen the winner, I will be filing
a lawsuit with the Florida State Attorney General's Office to contest the
results of the voting. Then they will order the hand counting of all the
votes and someone will have to decide about the hanging chads, etc.
So please, just vote for the Battrax and save us all a lot of time and trouble!
Thank you.
- Bob :-)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Bob Parker writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release!
>
> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set.
>
>
> If the 6941 Battrax (<set:6941>) is not choosen the winner, I will be filing
> a lawsuit with the Florida State Attorney General's Office to contest the
> results of the voting. Then they will order the hand counting of all the
> votes and someone will have to decide about the hanging chads, etc.
Old Joke. Very old joke. :^)
> So please, just vote for the Battrax and save us all a lot of time and trouble!
>
> Thank you.
>
> - Bob :-)
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Wow!
Because of LD, an amazing thing has happened this past day. We have the
power to decide what LD puts out next. We've always placed messages in
.lego.direct asking for whatever the heck we wanted, but now, we will
actually get it. (Well sorta, we as the general community).
My vote went for BSB because I have been a pirate fan since I started
collecting and I passed up my only chance to get a BSB back in '93 and since
have thought I would never get it without paying the expensive ebay price.
However, what a hard vote. I always wanted to be a castle collector but I
didn't really get started while I had a chance. (Before Fright Knights,
Uhgg...) Now with the Gaurded in I have finally begun but now need more,
thats why the Black Falcon Castle almost won my vote. My whole voting
experience sucked because by voting I was asking for something I wanted but
also damning the others back to the vaults. Maybe lego will just re-release
all of them, but the one with the most votes first, then the second most, etc.
BSB ALL THE WAY!!!
Jeremy Scott
The die hard Pirate Capitan, Content Town Citizen, Inept Train Engineer and
Day Dreaming Castle Head. :-)
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Woo-hoo! FWIW, my thoughts on the choices:
1. Yellow Castle. This was my vote without hesitation. All bricks, no
panels! This is true building. As the set that began the castle theme,
this is a legend. I'm not worried about some changes as some have
been--that should keep the collectors happy anyway. Mainly it's just a
great design. I've often considered assembling the pieces from Bricklink
and putting together an approximation of this one, but would much rather buy
it complete (and not at the outrageous e-bay prices).
2. Main Street. Another great set. Is the Legends line our only source of
Town anymore? This set has lots of elements and rebuild possibilities, so
it could be the core of any budding town enthusiast's collection.
3. Black Falcon castle. Nice design and I'd get it, but there are too many
panels for my taste. I've always felt that these were cheating. Also, I
can't be overly excited by the promise of a yellow tudor wall, which some
have promoted as the selling point. You'd need several to make any building
and so this one goes in the worthless parts pile until I hit the lottery and
can afford to pay $35 for one piece.
4. Battrax. Sorry, spaceheads, this doesn't do it for me. Blacktron came
in my Dark Ages so I don't have any emotional attachment to this. For me
the true space legends are the originals--galaxy explorer, space cruiser,
alpha-1 rocket base, rocket launcher, etc. Oh, black shutters don't sell
this set for me for the same reason as one yellow wall doesn't sell the
Black Falcon set.
5. Black Seas Barracuda. A really great set, but I probably wouldn't buy
it. It's too expensive for a theme I'm not otherwise invested in. Plus
you'd think that Lego would wait a couple of years after the Red Beard
Runner to rerelease another big pirate ship.
Bruce
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
> 5. Black Seas Barracuda. A really great set, but I probably wouldn't buy
> it. It's too expensive for a theme I'm not otherwise invested in. Plus
> you'd think that Lego would wait a couple of years after the Red Beard
> Runner to rerelease another big pirate ship.
I'm speculating but RBR was brought back under something a bit different
than "LEGENDS" (it's a bit muddy exactly how it's organized to this reader).
Also it was a lot more recent. Maybe they brought back RBR to test the
waters and make the business case that BSB could be brought back, by
demonstrating good sales, without any special parts creation/compromise
required since it went out of production so recently?
Good analysis though. (except you didn't conclude Main Street was the one to
vote for. :-) )
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So I'm not the only one.... that's a bit of a relief.
My two cents on the choice of five sets?
I couldn't care less!
Why are they all minifig sets again? My choices for legends:
Constellation, what can I say? But it has to be with the original yellow
1x1x1 windows.....
Black Cat, without a doubt one of the best sets ever.
Technic: 8848, an early highlight. Great combination of looks, functions and
playability. But it would never sell big nowadays. 8868 simply has
everything: motor, pneumatics, looks, playability.... And of course the
Space shuttle.
As for trains, well, they've had the metroliner, but I guess a 9V 7740 would
make a lot of people happy...
and if you are pushing me for a minifig set: 540, 'cause in my memory that
was the first with the modern minifig.
Allthough I must admit that if the Galaxy Explorer (928) was ever rereleased
I'd buy it....
Duq
Simon Bennett <simon.bennett@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:GuGC69.4Eo@lugnet.com...
> Excellent stuff Jake, I shall be voting but...
>
> I do have one small cavil and I really hate to do it after you have put in
> so much work but there has still been no Technic Legend. Is this because
> Technic sets are so large that it is feared they would not sell? Perhaps
> you could have another poll about what themes should be investigated for • the
> legend after this one (clearly Classic Space would win but you may get • some
> idea of the market for Technic!)
>
> Are others at .technic interested in seeing one?
>
> Simon
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past
> [snip]
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home!
So-- If I may ask, how are Legends doing as a product line? Are we likely to
see "legends" in stores? Are the Wild West & Pirate sets currently in stores
considered "legends"?
I guess why I ask is that I'd much prefer them in stores. I hate to admit
it, but I *am* somewhat of an impulse Lego buyer. If the Guarded Inn were
released in stores, I'd have at least 10. As it is I have 2. I'd have a few
Breezeway Cafe's, Pizza Shop's, and even a Metroliner (of course I probably
*will* end up buying one of each of these from S@H-- just not as many as if
they were in stores).
The scary thing is that I'm buying less and less Lego-- not because I don't
*want* to mind you, but because of that whole psychological impulse buying
dealy. I used to check out every KB toy store for a good markdown.
Occasionally I'd go to TRU for no reason other than to pick up a few sets
and build them-- no projects in mind, just buying. If I passed a WalMart or
an Ames I'd go in and browse the Lego section looking for something to spark
my interest.
But now? I've stopped going to KayBee entirely. I don't go into stores that
I pass by in my car. If I'm in the store already I'll check out their Lego,
but that's pretty much it. And I'll admit I've tried to visit TRU a couple
times on a buying binge. But 90% of the time I buy *NOTHING*. Jack Stone?
Ick. Bionicle? Ick. Soccer sets? Eh. Alpha team? Eh. Galidor? Blech. Only
thing that occasionally sparks my intrest is Star Wars...
Then I look at a S@H catalog and there's SO much I want to buy. Lego
Legends, parts packs, "model team" style sets, sculptures, etc. If *these*
were in stores? I'd be buying twice a week. But for whatever reason, I'm
always less inclined to buy from S@H or via Lego.com than from a store.
Maybe it's the fact that it's not right in front of me. Maybe it's cuz
paying by cash or check is either not possible or too time consuming to do
via S@H. Maybe it's the shipping time. I dunno.
Anyway, I realize that service packs, sculptures, and things like the
Sopwith Camel/UCS sets just don't sell well in stores, but what about
Legends? I'd assume they still possess the same appeal for kids as they did
when they were released-- and they can range in price just like "standard"
sets (and unlike sculptures & UCS sets which just sit on shelves due to high
price & size). Is there a chance we'll see things like Battrax and Black
Falcon's Fortress hit the store shelves ever?
DaveE
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
> >
> > So, do we move this over to .general and start exit polling to get a best
> > guess on which will win? 8?)
> >
> > Matt
>
> M'Kay, It was time for a poll change anyway :)
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/
>
> (poll updated)
>
> KL
Kevin, is there any way to make sure that people don't vote for a set more
than once? I wouldn't want to see somebody rigging the polls. :o)
Rob
robo2705@hotmail.com
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Daniel Crichton writes:
> "J. Irvine" <irvinej@accuvera.com> wrote in message
> news:GuGM3J.6po@lugnet.com...
>
> > I have to jump in and add my agreement to this post. Speaking as someone • who
> > did not have the opportunity to get the Battrax when I was younger, I am
> > thrilled to have another chance at getting it now that I have the • purchasing
> > power to do so. I couldn't care less if it's "not the original" - it's • close
> > enough for me.
>
> I agree here with this - when I was younger I had a couple of small Classic
> Space sets but they disappeared a long time ago. With the release of the
> Star Wars sets my LEGO interest has been renewed, although I've also started
> looking at Space sets for sale. While the Battrax looks dated I think that
> adds to the appeal - I would love to get my hands on one of these to remind
> me of what I missed in my "dark ages". I wouldn't keep it in the box, it'd
> get put together and displayed in my LEGO room (yep, I have a whole room
> available to set out my LEGO although my computer shares it too) and
> probably let my daughter play with it (and it'd reduce the chance of her
> wanting to play with my 8448, although she seems to have taken a liking to
> the Snowspeeder at the moment, quite scary for a 2 1/2 year old when she
> even makes the sounds of the lasers and the noise of the AT-ATs!). In my
> opinion LEGO isn't for stacking away in the hope it'll be worth something
> one day, I enjoy building the sets and watching the sparks of creativity my
> daughter shows with her Duplo and my LEGO.
>
> Dan
I tried to not to be too much of a "me too" person around Lugnet, but I
thought I would have to throw in my agrument here too. On Beneke's opinion.
When I was younger, I never had a chance to get my hands on a Battrax,
Yellow Castle or even a Black Falcon's fortress. Instead, the only sets I
had a chance to get were exploriens, unitron and royal knights, not the best
items, but still great sets. However, I never got a chance to get my hands
on the
real sets" such as classic castle and space sets.
I never collected Lego for value, no way! I took up the brick solely because
I wanted to build something awesome. But what Beneke wrote about turning
Legends into "faked up sets" I firmly disagree with. If you re-release a
set, most likely you will see changes (i.g old parts thet no longer can be made)
Even though some parts have changed, and the sets are now a current product,
does that really change the set? I think not!
Legends were made for a reason, they were popular sets with a wide appeal to
a variety of collectors, adult and kid alike. Even though the cash value of
the set has been lost, think of it in a good term, now Lego fans of all ages
can get an equal chance to get their hands on something they couldn't get
before. Lego isn't about value. Adult collectors shouldn't be the only
people to get thair hands on a particular set. Unfortunately, some people
seem to think so.
Remember, Lego wasn't made to be stacked brick by brick locked in a safe.
Lego was meant to be built.
Anyway, J. Irvine's opinion pretty much sums it up, but I thought I had
to add my two cents to this deal. You see, well...that's my nature...
Just my two brickz...
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Lugnet No. 1112
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Rob Drechsel writes:
>
> Kevin, is there any way to make sure that people don't vote for a set more
> than once? I wouldn't want to see somebody rigging the polls. :o)
While there are some controls to reduce the chances and effect of
ballot stuffing, there is no sure way to prevent it (without
requiring a login like LEGO does on their poll).
KL
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matt Hein writes:
>
> I tried to not to be too much of a "me too" person around Lugnet, but I
> thought I would have to throw in my agrument here too. On Beneke's opinion.
>
> When I was younger, I never had a chance to get my hands on a Battrax,
> Yellow Castle or even a Black Falcon's fortress. Instead, the only sets I
> had a chance to get were exploriens, unitron and royal knights, not the best
> items, but still great sets. However, I never got a chance to get my hands
> on the
> real sets" such as classic castle and space sets.
>
> I never collected Lego for value, no way! I took up the brick solely because
> I wanted to build something awesome. But what Beneke wrote about turning
> Legends into "faked up sets" I firmly disagree with. If you re-release a
> set, most likely you will see changes (i.g old parts thet no longer can be made)
> Even though some parts have changed, and the sets are now a current product,
> does that really change the set? I think not!
>
> Legends were made for a reason, they were popular sets with a wide appeal to
> a variety of collectors, adult and kid alike. Even though the cash value of
> the set has been lost, think of it in a good term, now Lego fans of all ages
> can get an equal chance to get their hands on something they couldn't get
> before. Lego isn't about value. Adult collectors shouldn't be the only
> people to get thair hands on a particular set. Unfortunately, some people
> seem to think so.
> Remember, Lego wasn't made to be stacked brick by brick locked in a safe.
> Lego was meant to be built.
>
> Anyway, J. Irvine's opinion pretty much sums it up, but I thought I had
> to add my two cents to this deal. You see, well...that's my nature...
>
> Just my two brickz...
>
> <<_Matt Hein_>>
> Lugnet No. 1112
Amen!
I have to agree. And I, for one, have grown up with UFO, town JR, and
Insectoids, and believe me, I ain't happy with it!
:-)
Lego Legends are supposed to be that: legends. I think that if you don't
count a set as a legend just because its equally avaliable and dosn't go for
absurdly high prices, you are doing something wrong.
John Kruer
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Tom Reed wrote:
> Wow! I think it's great for Lego to give us such a great selection to choose
> from. While I'm leaning towards the 6285 or the yellow castle, I am
> wondering about the comment on the new tree for set 6390. Will this be a
> NEW tree (unlike any other) or just a different tree (which doesn't really
> make sense after the re-release of the cypress tree)?
> Another question I have for other lugnetters...does the town set really have
> a "black" cowboy hat? I was under the impression that there were no "black"
> cowboy hats. I've been using the adventurer's hat as a substitute!
Definitely exists (I have two 664 TV Camera sets bought for the black
hat). There is at least one other stiffy set with a black cowboy hat
(372 Texas Rangers, which also has red ones).
I agree about the question on the tree on 6390, WHY???
Frank
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Simon Bennett writes:
> I do have one small cavil and I really hate to do it after you have put in
> so much work but there has still been no Technic Legend. Is this because
> Technic sets are so large that it is feared they would not sell? Perhaps
> you could have another poll about what themes should be investigated for the
> legend after this one (clearly Classic Space would win but you may get some
> idea of the market for Technic!)
At least they did re-release 8459 (as 8464). Though not a "legends" release,
it certainly made me happy 8?)
ROSCO
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Ha, think you have problems? Try living in Canada and see the money we have
to pay for S@H....at least you have Shop@Home as an affordable option...
Oh well, when life gives you lemons, chuck 'em at somebody else and laugh ;)
--
Erin
In lugnet.lego.direct, David Eaton writes:
>
> But now? I've stopped going to KayBee entirely. I don't go into stores that
> I pass by in my car. If I'm in the store already I'll check out their Lego,
> but that's pretty much it. And I'll admit I've tried to visit TRU a couple
> times on a buying binge. But 90% of the time I buy *NOTHING*. Jack Stone?
> Ick. Bionicle? Ick. Soccer sets? Eh. Alpha team? Eh. Galidor? Blech. Only
> thing that occasionally sparks my intrest is Star Wars...
>
> Then I look at a S@H catalog and there's SO much I want to buy. Lego
> Legends, parts packs, "model team" style sets, sculptures, etc. If *these*
> were in stores? I'd be buying twice a week. But for whatever reason, I'm
> always less inclined to buy from S@H or via Lego.com than from a store.
> Maybe it's the fact that it's not right in front of me. Maybe it's cuz
> paying by cash or check is either not possible or too time consuming to do
> via S@H. Maybe it's the shipping time. I dunno.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jeremy Scott writes:
> I passed up my only chance to get a BSB back in '93 and since
> have thought I would never get it without paying the expensive ebay price.
>
> [...] snip
>
> BSB ALL THE WAY!!!
>
> Jeremy Scott
Which one? Howie, AJ or Brian? ;) g,d,r
(FUT .pun)
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Erin
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Henry Kruer writes:
> Amen!
>
> I have to agree. And I, for one, have grown up with UFO, town JR, and
> Insectoids, and believe me, I ain't happy with it!
>
> :-)
Yeah. I was stuck with excuses for space for quite a while until Star Wars
hit the market. (and I joined Lugnet)
> Lego Legends are supposed to be that: legends. I think that if you don't
> count a set as a legend just because its equally avaliable and dosn't go for
> absurdly high prices, you are doing something wrong.
Yeah. For months I wanted a Guarded Inn before it became a legend, and there
was *no way* I would blow one hundred dollars on a 6067. Luckily, that model
is now available at the cheap cost of $25. I think Lego should definitely
release ALL of the candidates for Legend (although I *know* they won't in
the first place). I just say that they should make a set universally
available. That's all I ask as a consumer. :)
Now, I'm stuck between voting for a battrax or a yellow castle, OR a BFF.
It's giving me a headache, but oh well, I *really* need a battrax, then I'll
be helfway BT1 complete!
Just my two brickz...
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Lugnet No. 1112
> John Kruer
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XPFUT .general
<snipped it all>
First off, this is XPFUT'd to .general because I'd like to spark an
intelligent conversation about the Legends line. I don't want this to turn
into some kind of argument or debate.
Ben,
I can understand your point as a collector. But, like so many have echoed
now and in the past, lego is not a very suitable collector's item. Tell me
- what is the difference (other than the age and the mold) between a yellow
2x4 brick from the 375 and a 3033? Nothing. They're all the same. They
are bricks, plain and simple. They are designed to have fun playing with.
You call these new sets "fakes." Why? They are just as official as the
originals, and the new product line gives people like me (only 19) an
opportunity to experience these great sets for ourselves. There are a
number of reasons why people want sets that were unavailable to them. Age,
dark ages, lack of money at the time, etc. Why should I have to pay out
$400 for a yellow castle on eBay, when it's really worth a lot less to me?
If I were a collector, I'm sure I'd say different. But I'm a hobbyist.
These plastic bricks, that so many people from so many different
demographics enjoy, are merely a hobby to me. I don't buy a set with the
intent of keeping in box, or holding onto it for some-odd years and hawking
it on eBay or the like. I buy a set for that feeling - that experience that
you get when you build a fun (and sometimes challenging) set, admire it,
dismantle it, and build something new out of it. What fun are the bricks in
your "original" yellow castle or "original" metroliner if all they do is sit
on a shelf looking like a yellow castle or metroliner and collect dust?
I can't understand why anyone would not like these new legends sets, unless
it was merely a "hey, I have that and it's rare, and I don't want you to
have it too" attitude. Like Rick said, it's a form of greed. I'm not
saying that's *your* motivation, but if it's something else, please explain
it to me so that I can understand your side.
I remember when I was a little kid, and I'd see all these great sets like
the Black Seas Barracuda and the Black Falcon's Fortress that I couldn't
have. Whether it was because my parents couldn't afford them, or because
they thought I wouldn't take care of them, or whatever, I don't know. But I
can remember saying "someday". Well, now that someday is here. Lego has
listened to their customers and is bringing back the best sets from the
golden ages. And I'm nothing but ecstatic that I can get back a little
shred of those memories, and actually get to experience a build that would
have otherwise been lost to me.
My .02,
-Chris
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Ross Crawford writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Simon Bennett writes:
> > I do have one small cavil and I really hate to do it after you have put in
> > so much work but there has still been no Technic Legend. Is this because
> > Technic sets are so large that it is feared they would not sell? Perhaps
> > you could have another poll about what themes should be investigated for the
> > legend after this one (clearly Classic Space would win but you may get some
> > idea of the market for Technic!)
>
> At least they did re-release 8459 (as 8464). Though not a "legends" release,
> it certainly made me happy 8?)
Unfortunately, it is no longer available. :-(
I ordered a couple right when they came out, and just a few days ago wanted
to order a couple more. No luck. That was too short a timespan to
re-release this set, in my opinion. Oh well. We could definitely use a few
good technic sets at this point in time! Come on LEGO!
And bulk technic, while we're at it!
--
David Schilling
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In lugnet.lego.direct, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past
> > [snip]
> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home!
>
> So-- If I may ask, how are Legends doing as a product line? Are we likely to
> see "legends" in stores? Are the Wild West & Pirate sets currently in stores
> considered "legends"?
Legends are only available directly from Lego, as you know.
The other re-issued Lego sets that ARE available from retailers are not
Legends, but are classified as CLASSICS. That distinction seems to make all
the difference. So, the re-issued Fort Legoredo, for example, is NOT a
Legend set but a Classic set.
It is unfortunate that Legends sets are not marketed to retailers, but there
is nothing we can do about that. LegoDirect has its hands tied and they are
doing all they can for now to provide the Lego sets we want; items excluded
from the retail assortment may not be the best situation, but it is better
than not having them at all.
Personally, I am very willing to order from Lego Shop At Home here in the
USA for buyers who are elsewhere. Or people can order for themselves and
have items shipped to me.
I will gladly re-pack and re-ship the items for very little compensation. I
have offered this privately to several people over the years but few people
have taken me up on it. Those that have bought through me have been happy
and have gotten Lego items that they would otherwise not have been able to buy.
If anyone wants to take me up on this offer, contact me via email.
__Kevin Salm__
....Over 20 years experience playing with Lego toys....
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In lugnet.lego.direct, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past
> > [snip]
> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home!
>
> So-- If I may ask, how are Legends doing as a product line? Are we likely to
> see "legends" in stores? Are the Wild West & Pirate sets currently in stores
> considered "legends"?
>
> I guess why I ask is that I'd much prefer them in stores. I hate to admit
> it, but I *am* somewhat of an impulse Lego buyer. If the Guarded Inn were
> released in stores, I'd have at least 10. As it is I have 2. I'd have a few
> Breezeway Cafe's, Pizza Shop's, and even a Metroliner (of course I probably
> *will* end up buying one of each of these from S@H-- just not as many as if
> they were in stores).
I suppose it is cold comfort if there isn't a Lego outlet store near you,
but the Lego store in Anaheim (Downtown Disney, accessible without going
into the park) carries the Legend line. They even got in the new Blacksmith
Shop this week (Metroliner, Guarded Inn, Pizza to Go were all there). I
didn't want to have pay the shipping charges on the Blacksmith Shop, so I
just waited until it showed up at the outlet store. There is something
about actually having the box in front of you that shopping by mail doesn't
satisfy.
Bruce
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> I suppose it is cold comfort if there isn't a Lego outlet store near you,
> but the Lego store in Anaheim (Downtown Disney, accessible without going
> into the park) carries the Legend line. They even got in the new Blacksmith
> Shop this week (Metroliner, Guarded Inn, Pizza to Go were all there). I
> didn't want to have pay the shipping charges on the Blacksmith Shop, so I
> just waited until it showed up at the outlet store. There is something
> about actually having the box in front of you that shopping by mail doesn't
> satisfy.
>
> Bruce
Arrgh! Why doesn't Lego set up a direct shop in Arizona? I know they
probably have them in California, NY, and near their corporate HQ, but It
seems where I live, is the last place to get Lego at a decent price. :(
If only Lego released Legend sets in toy shops, or even better, hobby shops.
It seems to me, that Lego co. doesn't take to full, their marketing potential.
I mean, there are a lot of opportunities out there for marketing, such as
placing actually decent products on store shelves, placing bulk quaitity
sets and accessory packs next the lego aisle, and possibly minifigure,
architectural, brick quantity, foliage, landscaping and technic accessory
packs on store shelves.
If a store like this were to be like every toy shop (not Lego direct stores),
with reasonable prices, and a diverse selection, then I might actually go
back to the store and *buy* lego again. Now, they're missing potential
profits on my part, and most of them probably go to some old senile toy
collectors on ebay. A shame? Definitely!
Can Lego fix this?
They should!
Perhaps this lack of convenience is due to the fact that Lego corporation's
inner echeleon seriously comtempletes that they may be facing competition,
not from only clone bricks, but from the action figure line (e.g jack stone?
bionicle sets?) If this is true, perhaps they think on the borderline that
they need to introduce kits with a low complexity level so that when they're
(consumers) finished building, they grow slowly bored, and go to the toy
store for more, hoping to find something more complex, more on a futile
basis. Perhaps it's time for a change to look back to the basic bricks,
technic parts, and architecture to add integrity to the model, not just sell
it from behind a brand name label, or take the bandwagon approach. IMO
Just my two brickz...
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Lugnet No. 1112
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matt Hein writes:
> Arrgh! Why doesn't Lego set up a direct shop in Arizona? I know they
> probably have them in California, NY, and near their corporate HQ, but It
> seems where I live, is the last place to get Lego at a decent price. :(
I have the funny feeling that where you live gets GREAT sales if you know
where to look and wait for the right moment to spring into action. I guess
it depends on the population density of your particular town. I find good
deals in places that are sort of near large population centers, but not at
the heart of them -- more along the outskirts of such centers of trade.
As better tools are developed to ascertain what a manufacturer should
actually produce and what a retailer should actually buy to maximize
profits, we may see a drop in the extreme sales we have seen in the past.
Depends on a lot of factors though...
-- Hop-Frog
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Ok, it´s wonderful. But why Spain and Portugal are off? Lego Direct doesn´t
work at all in our countries, and sets heve been added every month... if the
home service is launched, I am not going to have enough money to buy Sopwith
Camel, Rebel Blockade Runner, MOC sets, Red Baron, Guarded Inn... I´m very
sad and confused. Please, Lego, help the Iberian Peninsula to be in the
Shop@Home SOON :-C
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Julián,
Today is your lucky day...
We're proud to announce the addition of Spain and Portugal as available
shipping countries to Shop At Home online:
http://shop.LEGO.com
--Jarid
Jarid Lukin
Commerce Project Manager
LEGO Direct
In lugnet.lego.direct, Julián Guerrero Molina-Prados writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> >
> > Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> > comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> > it. Today, such an announcement is made.
> >
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> > Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> > reasons, all of which you can read about at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/build
> >
> > or at the voting itself at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
> >
> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> > more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> > the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
> >
> > And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
> >
> > So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> > in your 2 cents!!
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > ---
> > Jake McKee
> > Senior Producer
> > LEGO Direct
>
>
> Ok, it´s wonderful. But why Spain and Portugal are off? Lego Direct doesn´t
> work at all in our countries, and sets heve been added every month... if the
> home service is launched, I am not going to have enough money to buy Sopwith
> Camel, Rebel Blockade Runner, MOC sets, Red Baron, Guarded Inn... I´m very
> sad and confused. Please, Lego, help the Iberian Peninsula to be in the
> Shop@Home SOON :-C
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I've tried to vote for the last four days and I keep getting an error screen
that says there is something wrong with the website. what's up?
thanks
-Lenny Mckee-Hoffman
In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > Just to repeat some of my statements:
> > - Legends are legends, because they have been desireable sets: good design +
> > often rare sets because they have been discontinued since years.
> > - a re-released legend is no longer a legend, because it is just a mass
> > product (you have not to desire it any longer - just buy it). If a legend is
> > re-released it becomes a dead legend in my eyes: might be a cool set, but it
> > is by far less desireable. (You alway desire most, what is hard to get.)
>
> Spoken like a collector without regard for what others may or may not have in
> their collections. I see this as a kind of greed on your part, pure and
> simple.
Just turn the medal and I tell you: it is greed that makes people wanting to
have these legends...
(Stupid argument of mine? Agree - but is yours the better one?)
> Others, who for reasons of youth or having made different spending
> choices in the past, now have an opportunity to pick up something they have
> had to do without in the meanwhile. And while the Yellow Castle (more
> below) is not my first choice as a rerelease given some of the details, many
> others may well want to have one and not have to pay $300 or whatever for
> what is in the end mostly just a pile of yellow bricks...! You would deny
> them this for what reason? Your elite ownership of the previous release?
I do not own one that deserves the name 375. So your argument is
completely hollow.
> I have said it before and I will say it again: lego is not a great choice
> for collectors for numerous reasons.
Why not? Because you dislike collectors? I tell you: there are not much more
better items to be found than MISB Lego sets. Take a look into ebay and you see
these items are collectors items. But I am not a collector and I do not own any
MISB set. I trow away boxes and I give away these needless instructions
(except from train theme)....
I am building MOC. That is, what I have my bricks for.
> > I would wish, TLC could bring out more new and good designs like the 10020
> > Santa Fe or the 3451 Sopwith Camel. And if they had a lack of own ideas they
> > should bring more MOC-sets like the 3739 Blacksmith Shop. But legends in the
> > way they are released now are not very helpful for lots of fans.
> And consider the cost per set savings if TLC sells older sets it has already
> developed many years ago -- they save in many ways, and hopefully pass the
> savings on to consumers. I think that's the whole driving force behind the
> Legends line right there...
Agree - but the costs would be the same for a changed design: Lego made new
instructions anyway and the costs are the same if 10001 is grey or dark gray:
they had to take for e.g. the nose piece mould back into production anyway.
> > If TLC wanted to do us a favour, they would do major changes to the new
> > legends. For example the 375 castle:
> > It has been a great set in 1978. I loved that set and will always love it. • But
> > do I need a "faked" 375 set today? Really not!! A re-release has not the
> > charme of the original set from 1978. And I do not need yellow bricks for own
> > designs does anybody else? I cannot imagine.
> Well, that one didn't get my highest vote because it will lack the original
> knight's headgear -- in my view, this failing makes its rerelease less than
> interesting.
Tell me why? The building of the set is the same challenge. Why do you need a
copy of 375 that is as near to the real one as possible?
> Given that, the only unique elements that will be offered in the
> rerelease will be the yellow steep corner slopes -- which should really be a
> parts pack available in most colors. I think the 1x1 "lantern" elements which
> may have been the "squared" type originally, will now just be the basic round
> one that have been around for years. For those reasons, your precious
> original set remains undiminished. Be happy yourself and let others have
> their fun.
??
> As to the tan and dark grey variant arguments you raise, I have no arguments
> with that either -- just a caveat that the same thing could/should be
> addressed by a proper handling of brick bulk/accessory packs.
If so - why rerelease 375 if bulk could do the same?
> Anyway, I think I voted for the Black Knight set for the black steep corner
> slopes. But I wouldn't care if the rerelease of the Battrax made my 4-5
> copies of the original obsolete -- and I am quite sure the elements are such
> that they could duplicate this set almost perfectly, I can't think of a
> reason that would hex it -- all of the elements have been made until
> recently. So great, I have my 4-5 already -- I should care that others pick
> theirs up now?
No idea why you should - I do not care about it either.
> Lego is about playing. There is room in my sandbox for others to have all
> of the same stuff I do. I have no sense of competition about it. Why should
> you?
You are argueing against me as a collector: I am not. So none of your agruments
hit me.
If you are interested in my point of view, read this posting of mine, please:
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=36495
Kind Regards
Ben
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Ben writes:
> Just turn the medal and I tell you: it is greed that makes people wanting to
> have these legends...(Stupid argument of mine? Agree - but is yours the >better one?)
Well, perhaps -- there is certainly desire for certain elements. I think we
would all be served better by more selection in the accessory packs, but if
the only way to get some things are going to be the Legend and Classics
lines, then so be it. TLC and LD makes these decisions, I just try to guage
how clever the decisions happen to be and whether it is worth it to me as a
builder to buy certain sets.
> Why not? Because you dislike collectors?
Not really. It's just that except for MISB condition sets (which still
doesn't appeal to me collector-wise), paying top dollar for any lego is
wildly foolish -- with an open box, there are simply too many variables to
account for.
I feel differently about individual elements, but then I do not personally
acquire them for collector purposes, but rather for building purposes.
> Agree - but the costs would be the same for a changed design: Lego made new
> instructions anyway and the costs are the same if 10001 is grey or dark gray:
> they had to take for e.g. the nose piece mould back into production anyway.
My understanding of the situation is that LD isn't making new molds, so I am
not sure I follow the argument here. Plus, I feel pretty sure that they are
using the same old instructions reprinted, so again there is a presumed
savings on not having to do as much work for the manual that comes with the
sets.
> Tell me why? The building of the set is the same challenge. Why do you need a
> copy of 375 that is as near to the real one as possible?
Building challenge? It comes with instructions and even if it did not, it
doesn't look like brain surgery anyway.
The point of a near perfect reproduction is to get the elements that are
desireable from the set, like the visors, steep corner slopes, and the 1x1x1
windows.
> If so - why rerelease 375 if bulk could do the same?
No arguments again. If we had all the elements we needed as builders
available as accessory packs or in other easily obtainable sets, I wouldn't
give a fig for the Legends or Classics lines. The reality is that TLC/LD
wants to release certain things this way -- I presume there is a profit
motive that prevents them from releasing the accessory packs of our dreams.
So that's where we are.
But BTW, while you claim not to be a collector you do make pointedly
hilarious statements elsewhere like: "Because a reprint of Mona Lisa is not
the Mona Lisa even if you buy the poster in the Louvre. A fake is a fake."
What precisely is the motive for such a statement? I agree that quality
control is an issue for TLC/LD, but the issue is not that severe - esp. when
it comes to plain elements without printing.
But to pursue your terrible analogy a little further, I ask which is the
original "one and only" of any lego design such that we can compare it to
the Mona Lisa? There is none, all lego products are mass produced. So
again, to follow your limping analogy a little further, we are comparing the
first run of a thing to the second run of a thing for which there is no
original. And frankly, who cares which one you get if all you want are the
unique elements of a particular color from a specific set?
Clever and fun toy? -- yes. Works of art? -- no.
-- Hop-Frog
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> <snip>
> But legends in the way they are released now are not very helpful for lots
> of fans.
> <snip>
I don't agree at all. Most of us would rather buy a rereleased legend (if it
was the theme they liked) than any of the sets available on the shelves right
now. The legends available are 10 times better than most of the sets that are
now on the shelves.
I for one am VERY happy for the legends.
Play well.
Tim Strutt 8^)
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Yes, I would agree...the legends and re-issues are all super. They are the
ONLY new sets (other than a few Star Wars and Harry Potter sets) that I have
purchased since '97.
LEGO, are you listening? Like many others, I have spent thousands of $$ in
the last 5 years on LEGO and only, I'd say, 5% of that has gone to LEGO.
That's because what we have to choose from is mostly junk.
And this is a pet peeve with me...please go back to the flap-and-tray boxes
for larger sets!!! The current boxes are awful. That horrid thick corrguated
cardboard with punchtabs is about the worst possible container for LEGO sets.
I would *gladly* pay a couple extra dollars for a better box. What would the
extra cost be for the next Legend...say either Main Street or the Yellow
Castle or whatever...to be in a flap-and-tray box instead of these lame
thick corrugated boxes? $2.00 extra? $3.00 extra? It would be more than
worth it to me.
Similarly the smaller sets should go back to being released in the
double-flap-and-tab design of the early '80s. Those were the only small set
boxes in which you could effectively store the pieces without using a
zip-lock baggie or something similar. Again, the extra cost for a MUCH
better box would be well worth it.
I know that there will be people who will say "LEGO is already too
expensive" but those people ALWAYS complain about price and probably
wouldn't be happy unless every set cost a dollar. :)
Lou
In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Strutt writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > <snip>
> > But legends in the way they are released now are not very helpful for lots
> > of fans.
> > <snip>
>
> I don't agree at all. Most of us would rather buy a rereleased legend (if it
> was the theme they liked) than any of the sets available on the shelves right
> now. The legends available are 10 times better than most of the sets that are
> now on the shelves.
> I for one am VERY happy for the legends.
> Play well.
>
> Tim Strutt 8^)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jarid Lukin writes:
> Julián,
> Today is your lucky day...
> We're proud to announce the addition of Spain and Portugal as available
> shipping countries to Shop At Home online:
> http://shop.LEGO.com
> --Jarid
>
> Jarid Lukin
> Commerce Project Manager
> LEGO Direct
This has to be the best "ask and ye shall receive" I've seen in a while!
Kudos to LD!
LFB
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Yeah, same here, what gives and does anybody know the current standings?
I want to vote for Main Street!
Signed,
Rick
LUGNET member #540
In lugnet.lego.direct, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> I've tried to vote for the last four days and I keep getting an error screen
> that says there is something wrong with the website. what's up?
>
> thanks
> -Lenny Mckee-Hoffman
>
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> >
> > Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> > comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> > it. Today, such an announcement is made.
> >
> > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> > Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> > reasons, all of which you can read about at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/build
> >
> > or at the voting itself at:
> >
> > http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
> >
> > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> > more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> > the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
> >
> > And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
> >
> > So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> > in your 2 cents!!
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > ---
> > Jake McKee
> > Senior Producer
> > LEGO Direct
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
Greed?
GREED??
G R E E D?!?!?!
Whoa… maybe you look @ the hobby in a different manner that I.
But ‘Greed’ isn’t a term I'd apply to my ‘yearning’ for a 375.
~Perhaps your word usage is flawed?
I don’t see anything gluttonous, or insatiable about my desire for a 375!
But those are just the first few words that popped-up in my thesaurus.
(These words that are synonymous with greed appear repellent in nature.)
Mayhaps t’would be more aptly put if you were to imply ‘greed’ in terms
of desire, craving, and longing that do not possess a negative connotation.
> : it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
> (Stupid argument of mine? Agree - but is yours the better one?)
I do believe my argument is better.
I ‘desire’ a 375 not for reasons of ‘greed’ but for the shear pleasure of
building and playing with a set that I've longed for since I was a child.
Now that the opportunity has arisen to purchase a Legend I buy it to add
soldiers to my collection, expand my Lego landscape, and appreciate an
astatically beautiful model.
~And I don’t think I'm alone…
I believe most of us have reasons of virtue rather than vice.
Call me childish, but I'm in the hobby for the fun it.
I really meant it when I said:
> “if ever I should get my hands on a 6075 I swear I'd hug the box…for a
> . long time… telling it: “Your home, your finally home!” ”
http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=12857
For I love playing, building, and creating, with my collection.
Because I believe Lego is “an intellectualists pursuit of creativity
through the exploration of play.” ® -RN 2001.
I see no ‘greed’ in my ways, nor of those who share the hobby with me.
Pure fun with toys that are as adaptable and advanced as the individual
that creates with them.
Sorry, no ‘greed’ here,
--==RïçhårÐ==--
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
>
> Greed?
> GREED??
> G R E E D?!?!?!
>
> Whoa… maybe you look @ the hobby in a different manner that I.
> But ‘Greed’ isn’t a term I'd apply to my ‘yearning’ for a 375.
>
> ~Perhaps your word usage is flawed?
> I don’t see anything gluttonous, or insatiable about my desire for a 375!
> But those are just the first few words that popped-up in my thesaurus.
> (These words that are synonymous with greed appear repellent in nature.)
Nah, I could easily see myself buying one for the sheer desire to
actually get my hands on something so phenominal I never had a chance to
acquire. I think desire is a better word.
> Mayhaps t’would be more aptly put if you were to imply ‘greed’ in terms
> of desire, craving, and longing that do not possess a negative connotation.
I've never seen anyone who hordes yelloe castle parts, so I don't normally
associate greed to legos :)
> > : it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
> > (Stupid argument of mine? Agree - but is yours the better one?)
No, I think it is the collector's wish to get a hold of these, and a smart
company move at that. In one way, it's more of a two way deal, than a double
edged sword...
> I do believe my argument is better.
> I ‘desire’ a 375 not for reasons of ‘greed’ but for the shear pleasure of
> building and playing with a set that I've longed for since I was a child.
> Now that the opportunity has arisen to purchase a Legend I buy it to add
> soldiers to my collection, expand my Lego landscape, and appreciate an
> astatically beautiful model.
And I need a 375 just for the sole purpose of getting a load
of yellow bricks! :)
>
> ~And I don’t think I'm alone…
> I believe most of us have reasons of virtue rather than vice.
>
> Call me childish, but I'm in the hobby for the fun it.
> I really meant it when I said:
> > “if ever I should get my hands on a 6075 I swear I'd hug the box…for a
> > . long time… telling it: “Your home, your finally home!” ”
> http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=12857
Ah, I wouldn't go as far as that, but, alas, I would spend quite a lot
oftime building with it. That's for sure!
> For I love playing, building, and creating, with my collection.
> Because I believe Lego is “an intellectualists pursuit of creativity
> through the exploration of play.” ® -RN 2001.
>
> I see no ‘greed’ in my ways, nor of those who share the hobby with me.
> Pure fun with toys that are as adaptable and advanced as the individual
> that creates with them.
>
>
If the individual possesses "I have it and you can't" attitude, than
that takes all of the fun out of Lego. I say, equal opportunity!
> Sorry, no ‘greed’ here,
>
> --==RïçhårÐ==--
Just my two brickz...
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Lugnet No. 1112
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
>
> Greed?
> GREED??
> G R E E D?!?!?!
>
> Whoa… maybe you look @ the hobby in a different manner that I.
> But ‘Greed’ isn’t a term I'd apply to my ‘yearning’ for a 375.
>
> ~Perhaps your word usage is flawed?
Yes, perhaps it is. Ben is E2L(1), please keep that in mind, and sometimes
that causes misunderstanding. Reading over your words and his, I don't find
that much disagreement, believe it or not.
(I'm in the camp that's glad any time Lego, in any shape or form,
(re)releases a good set, in any shape or form... would I rather that the set
was way different than any released before, but still good? Sure. But I'll
take it (the good set, whatever the source(2)) either way)
Hope that helps.
1 - old IBMTEXT shorthand for (E)nglish as a (2)nd (L)anguage...
2 - More MOC sets please, and hurry!!!! And that's all I am going to say
about that.
++Lar
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jeremy Scott writes:
> My whole voting
> experience sucked because by voting I was asking for something I wanted but
> also damning the others back to the vaults. Maybe lego will just re-release
> all of them, but the one with the most votes first, then the second most, etc.
I totally agree! My voting experience sucked too, because while I had an
obvious favourite (6390), I want them all. I have a funny feeling that we'll
be seeing the four loosers in time for the holidays (and my money is on 6390
being the winner).
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> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > ~Perhaps your word usage is flawed?
> Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Yes, perhaps it is. Ben is E2L
Thanks for elaborating on that!
I too knew that English was his 2nd Language and therefore
I endeavored to point out that the discrepancy may exist in translation.
> Ben is E2L(1), (E)nglish as a (2)nd (L)anguage...
> please keep that in mind, and sometimes that causes misunderstanding.
I tried too…
I hope I didn’t come across as impolite.
I like Ben and respect what he has to say, that’s why I wanted to clarify.
> I'm in the camp that's glad any time Lego, in
> any shape or form, (re)releases a good set,
Ah, ‘tis a fine camp to be in!
(Any good Lego is great Lego)
> 2 - More MOC sets please, and hurry!!!!
> And that's all I am going to say about that.
WoW, Yah…
What’s up wit da?
I'd almost forgot!
Is the MOC line more infrequent than the Legends?
Are we only to expect 2 a year?
Till then,
--==RïçhårÐ==--
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
>
> Greed?
> GREED??
> G R E E D?!?!?!
>
> Whoa… maybe you look @ the hobby in a different manner that I.
> But ‘Greed’ isn’t a term I'd apply to my ‘yearning’ for a 375.
>
> ~Perhaps your word usage is flawed?
> I don’t see anything gluttonous, or insatiable about my desire for a 375!
> But those are just the first few words that popped-up in my thesaurus.
> (These words that are synonymous with greed appear repellent in nature.)
>
> Mayhaps t’would be more aptly put if you were to imply ‘greed’ in terms
> of desire, craving, and longing that do not possess a negative connotation.
Sorry Richard,
English is not my mother tongue. So why did I use the word greed here? As a
matter of fact I have not used that word since ever - I had to look into my
dictionary to cheack the meaning of "greed".
I only have used this word, because in the posting before this word has been
used by YOU (and against me)! You told me to have feelings of greed. So your
arguing now is a little unfair in my eyes...
> > : it is greed that makes people wanting to have these legends...
> > (Stupid argument of mine? Agree - but is yours the better one?)
>
> I do believe my argument is better.
> I ‘desire’ a 375 not for reasons of ‘greed’ but for the shear pleasure of
> building and playing with a set that I've longed for since I was a child.
And if you want to "play" with it: what would be wrong with a modified Legend
set? that is all, what I desire. I want Lego to do modified sets - best with
evidently changed colours (like 4554 / 2150).
> Now that the opportunity has arisen to purchase a Legend I buy it to add
> soldiers to my collection, expand my Lego landscape, and appreciate an
> astatically beautiful model.
>
> ~And I don’t think I'm alone…
> I believe most of us have reasons of virtue rather than vice.
>
> Call me childish, but I'm in the hobby for the fun it.
> I really meant it when I said:
> > “if ever I should get my hands on a 6075 I swear I'd hug the box…for a
> > . long time… telling it: “Your home, your finally home!” ”
> http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=12857
>
> For I love playing, building, and creating, with my collection.
> Because I believe Lego is “an intellectualists pursuit of creativity
> through the exploration of play.” ® -RN 2001.
>
> I see no ‘greed’ in my ways, nor of those who share the hobby with me.
And you think I do not share your hobby?! You tell me I am greedy... :-(
Leg Godt!
Ben
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Ben writes:
> I only have used this word, because in the posting before this word has been
> used by YOU (and against me)! You told me to have feelings of greed. So your
> arguing now is a little unfair in my eyes...
Actually, Ben, I think you mean me -- I used the word first.
There are two Richards underfoot at this point -- the best way to tell the
difference between us is that the other Richard is younger and better
looking than I am.
=oP
-- Hop-Frog
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> Ben writes:
> > I only have used this word, because in the posting before this word has been
> > used by YOU (and against me)! You told me to have feelings of greed. So your
> > arguing now is a little unfair in my eyes...
>
> Actually, Ben, I think you mean me -- I used the word first.
>
> There are two Richards underfoot at this point -- the best way to tell the
> difference between us is that the other Richard is younger and better
> looking than I am.
Thanks for jumping in, HopFrog.
And sorry to Richard Noeckel. My fault - I mixed up the two names....
Kind Regards,
Ben
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YES!!!!! =D
I was feeling a bit frustrated, when I voted for the LEGO Legend and not
beeing able to use Shop At Home online to buy the released set (if/when my
elected set wins the Legend status).
Now I'm happy :)
THANKS!
mc.
PS: The only "part of me" that isn't "happy" with these news, is my wallet
:>
~~Bring back the spirit of LEGO Town/City through new sets.~~
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news-gateway@lugnet.com
> [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]On Behalf
> Of Jarid Lukin
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:16 PM
> To: lugnet.lego.direct@lugnet.com
> Subject: Re: You get to choose! -> IBERIA?
>
>
> Julián,
> Today is your lucky day...
> We're proud to announce the addition of Spain and Portugal as
> available
> shipping countries to Shop At Home online:
> http://shop.LEGO.com
> --Jarid
>
> Jarid Lukin
> Commerce Project Manager
> LEGO Direct
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OBRIGADO! :-)
(Thank you very, very much!)
This is a great day for us - shame I did not see this earlier... :-/
Anyway, thank you LEGO. It is nice to see you value our needs. My vows for
the future: that the whole world can use this feature!
Pedro (imensely happy!)
In lugnet.lego.direct, Jarid Lukin writes:
> Julián,
> Today is your lucky day...
> We're proud to announce the addition of Spain and Portugal as available
> shipping countries to Shop At Home online:
> http://shop.LEGO.com
> --Jarid
>
> Jarid Lukin
> Commerce Project Manager
> LEGO Direct
>
>
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Julián Guerrero Molina-Prados writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > >
> > > Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> > > comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> > > it. Today, such an announcement is made.
> > >
> > > We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> > > have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> > > Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> > > reasons, all of which you can read about at:
> > >
> > > http://www.LEGO.com/build
> > >
> > > or at the voting itself at:
> > >
> > > http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
> > >
> > > Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> > > you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> > > more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> > > the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
> > >
> > > And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
> > >
> > > So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> > > in your 2 cents!!
> > >
> > > Jake
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Jake McKee
> > > Senior Producer
> > > LEGO Direct
> >
> >
> > Ok, it´s wonderful. But why Spain and Portugal are off? Lego Direct doesn´t
> > work at all in our countries, and sets heve been added every month... if the
> > home service is launched, I am not going to have enough money to buy Sopwith
> > Camel, Rebel Blockade Runner, MOC sets, Red Baron, Guarded Inn... I´m very
> > sad and confused. Please, Lego, help the Iberian Peninsula to be in the
> > Shop@Home SOON :-C
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Lou Zucaro writes:
<snip>
> And this is a pet peeve with me...please go back to the flap-and-tray boxes
> for larger sets!!! The current boxes are awful. That horrid thick corrguated
> cardboard with punchtabs is about the worst possible container for LEGO sets.
Actually I like it. Now if someone has returned the set after opening it, or
worse yet, opened and plundered it at the store, there is no question about it.
Also those heavy duty cardboard boxes take abuse better than the old boxes
ever did. Look at the USC stuff, and how those boxes are always beat.
> I would *gladly* pay a couple extra dollars for a better box. What would the
> extra cost be for the next Legend...say either Main Street or the Yellow
> Castle or whatever...to be in a flap-and-tray box instead of these lame
> thick corrugated boxes? $2.00 extra? $3.00 extra? It would be more than
> worth it to me.
AgagaghHH! No! I buy Lego sets for the little plastic bricks not for the
cardboard packaging. I would be really bumbed if I had to pay more for a
packaging style that some would describe as worse. I throw away the boxes on
all the sets I buy, so I am not helped by a flap and tray style box.
>
> Similarly the smaller sets should go back to being released in the
> double-flap-and-tab design of the early '80s. Those were the only small set
> boxes in which you could effectively store the pieces without using a
> zip-lock baggie or something similar. Again, the extra cost for a MUCH
> better box would be well worth it.
Ok so you want to use these old box styles for storage. I think I can
understand your point of view. But lets say, going by your pricing, that each
small set costs $1 more, and the big sets $2 & $3 more. With that same amount
of money you could buy a 100count box of ziplock baggies (which you can see
through, something I have never managed to do through cardboard) and a shoebox
sized plastic container(1). Futhermore, plastic containers are far more robust
than old Lego boxes ever could be and stackable.
>
> I know that there will be people who will say "LEGO is already too
> expensive" but those people ALWAYS complain about price and probably
> wouldn't be happy unless every set cost a dollar. :)
I do think Lego is too expensive (on some of their items, ie bulk packs) but I
am happy with a number of their items, and I don't think they should make
"every set cost a dollar" This would be fun for a while, but after Lego went
out of business, I would have to buy all my bricks second hand.
>
> Lou
So to recap my point, I don't want to pay more for different packaging, I don't
want Lego deciding my storage system. I can find my own system and with the
amount of sets I buy(2), it is cheaper this way anyhow.
-Jason
(1) See the clear plastic containers with the white lids in this picture. Only
89cents at my local hardware store (Lowes).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=63407
(2) http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=478
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
Jason Spears
MichLUG - http://www.michlug.org/
Lego Page - http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Noeckel writes:
> I like Ben and respect what he has to say, that’s why I wanted to clarify.
and thanks for that. Sorry if I used your post as a periodic reminder to
folks that not everyone is E1L and to keep it in mind....
>
> > I'm in the camp that's glad any time Lego, in
> > any shape or form, (re)releases a good set,
>
> Ah, ‘tis a fine camp to be in!
> (Any good Lego is great Lego)
Roger that! Got any marshmallows for the campfire?
> > 2 - More MOC sets please, and hurry!!!!
> > And that's all I am going to say about that.
>
> WoW, Yah…
> What’s up wit da?
> I'd almost forgot!
> Is the MOC line more infrequent than the Legends?
> Are we only to expect 2 a year?
> > And that's all I am going to say about that.
:-)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> Sorry Richard,
> English is not my mother tongue.
Your English usage is still quite excellent nevertheless! :)
> So your arguing now is a little unfair in my eyes...
Different individual.
(But that’s already been clarified.)
Usually when I make a point I endeavor to debate
the issues and not the character of the individual.
> And if you want to "play" with it: what would be wrong with a modified
> Legend set? that is all, what I desire. I want Lego to do modified sets
> - best with evidently changed colours (like 4554 / 2150).
I do believe this would be an outstanding idea!
One that I've posed in the past myself.
But a Legends return is still quite nice.
I like both ideas,
--==RïçhårÐ==--
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> There are two Richards underfoot at this point
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> And sorry to Richard Noeckel. My fault - I mixed up the two names....
Man, do I ever feel despondent…
I've been here for over 2 years and I'm
still second-string to the ‘other’ Richard…
(no matter how much he likes me) ;)
~After all, we’ve got two totally different signatures:
Mr. Marchetti has the clever, witty, yet sarcastic -- Hop-Frog as his sign.
While I possess the characterful, dynamic, original --==RïçhårÐ==-- as mine.
*You’d think I'd be easily picked out with my use of:
#1. Lively ACII characters; ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ ~ Æ Å 2¢ ¥ £ € $ § ‹± ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
#2. The way I artfully lop-off the end of a ‘G.’
(For example:)
Havin’
Thinkin’
Tryin’
Cryin’
#3. The way I throw in archaic forms of old-speak to infer a measure
of flavor/dialect.
(For example:)
Mayhaps t’would
‘tis betwixt
Thou hast
Prithee
Durst
Wilt
And all this is seamlessly intertwined into a majikal potpourri of flowing
verse…
<Sarcasm On>
But I guess once you’ve spoken to one ‘Richard’ you’ve spoken to ‘em all,
I Have No Identity,
Product classification 7 of 12 tuchiarea adjuction of uni-matrix 01
--==RïçhårÐ==--
7 of 9: "Do not engage us in further irrelevant discourse"
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Y’know I'm just playin’ … right?
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"richard noeckel" <shroud_of_kung_fu@hotmail.com> writes:
> > Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > 2 - More MOC sets please, and hurry!!!!
> > And that's all I am going to say about that.
>
> WoW, Yah…
> What’s up wit da?
> I'd almost forgot!
> Is the MOC line more infrequent than the Legends?
> Are we only to expect 2 a year?
My guess is that LD was waiting to see how well the first one did
before committing to doing any more. I'm sure there is a large
lead-time for new sets like this, and since it was kept secret until
its release, we have no way of knowing how long that takes.
After the success of the Blacksmith Shop, I suspect LD contacted other
MOC-makers and as we speak are working on the new sets which will be
out when the marketing astrologers declare it to be an auspicious
time... But I predict that the "pace" of MOC sets will increase,
assuming that the program is continued.
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
>
> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it. Today, such an announcement is made.
>
> We would like to invite you all to choose our next LEGO Legend release! We
> have selected five sets from years past (one of which should make Tim
> Courtney very happy). These sets were legends in their time for a number of
> reasons, all of which you can read about at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/build
>
> or at the voting itself at:
>
> http://www.LEGO.com/myOpinions
>
> Around the end of May, we will announce the winning set. Before you know it,
> you will be able to order it from LEGO Shop At Home! Some sets will take
> more time to prepare for production, so I can't give a firm launch date, but
> the goal is to produce the winner before the end of the year.
>
> And no, the winner of this vote is not the last Legend for the year...
>
> So what are you waiting for?? Head on over to the LEGO Web site now and put
> in your 2 cents!!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
Since everybody else has, I'll give my opinion:
I think this is great. We now have a chance to get great sets with highly
inflated prices currently. I do not care if the castle or space helmet is
slightly different; I do not think it matters. I do not think these sets
are 'worse' in any way, if you want originals, get them. They probablly
will be at lower prices anyway.
As for the sets themeselves: WOOHOOO!
I voted for the Battrax. Always loved blacktron... but I wouldn't mind if
Main Street or the Barracuda win, either.
As for which I think shall win:
Probablly battrax. Keep in mind that the majority of voters will be kids.
I think (being one myself) that kids would go for the battrax, it has the
limited 'cool' qualities that kids these days would like. After battrax, a
tie between main street (for those people who want town back) and the Black
Seas Barracuda, because of its beauty and size.
Anyway, its a win-win situation.
My opinion...
John Kruer
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In lugnet.people, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > There are two Richards underfoot at this point
>
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > And sorry to Richard Noeckel. My fault - I mixed up the two names....
>
> Man, do I ever feel despondent…
> I've been here for over 2 years and I'm
> still second-string to the ‘other’ Richard…
> (no matter how much he likes me) ;)
You've been here for two years already? Good Lord am I old.
> ~After all, we’ve got two totally different signatures:
>
> Mr. Marchetti has the clever, witty, yet sarcastic -- Hop-Frog as his sign.
> While I possess the characterful, dynamic, original --==RïçhårÐ==-- as mine.
That may be why you're second-fiddle. Too many people keep
trying to pronounce that...thing.
> *You’d think I'd be easily picked out with my use of:
>
> #1. Lively ACII characters; ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ ~ Æ Å 2¢ ¥ £ € $ § ‹± ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
>
> #2. The way I artfully lop-off the end of a ‘G.’
> (For example:)
> Havin’
> Thinkin’
> Tryin’
> Cryin’
>
> #3. The way I throw in archaic forms of old-speak to infer a measure
> of flavor/dialect.
> (For example:)
> Mayhaps t’would
> ‘tis betwixt
> Thou hast
> Prithee
> Durst
> Wilt
Durst is supposedly musical, and Wilt is worth ten thousand....
nevermind.fnord
> And all this is seamlessly intertwined into a majikal potpourri of flowing
> verse…
>
> <Sarcasm On>
> But I guess once you’ve spoken to one ‘Richard’ you’ve spoken to ‘em all,
You forgot about eyeball-biting monkeys™, Stubbies™, and head-stepping.
Or is it bad form to admit that's what I identify you most closely with?
Also, your rants are markedly different from the other Richards' (yes,
there are more Richards beneath you as well). Have no fear--some kinds
of notoriety you may not, in fact, will.
best
LFB
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jarid Lukin writes:
> Julián,
> Today is your lucky day...
> We're proud to announce the addition of Spain and Portugal as available
> shipping countries to Shop At Home online:
> http://shop.LEGO.com
> --Jarid
>
> Jarid Lukin
> Commerce Project Manager
> LEGO Direct
Oh thank you a lot. I am very sorry because of I have not the vocabulary to
say what I feel; happy, in one word. Probably, my first set will be Sopwith
Camel, wonderful sculpture. My wallet and my girlfriend are not as happy as
I am :-D One last question is why in Spain the prices are the same as in
Germany, for example. It´s a pity because in Germany the pay is bigger than
in Spain (we are a little poor country, compared with the rest os the
European Union). Thank you anyway :-D I´m happy!!
Gracias gracias por haberme hecho feliz. Es fantástico poder disponer del
servicio @Home, así podremos disfrutar de modelos geniales que no se pueden
adquirir en tienda. Aunque lo único negativo sea el precio: pagamos lo mismo
que en Alemania, por ejemplo, cuya renta per capita es mayor que en España.
Pero bueno, qué le vamos a hacer. Gracias de nuevo.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jason Spears writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Lou Zucaro writes:
> <snip>
> > And this is a pet peeve with me...please go back to the flap-and-tray boxes
> > for larger sets!!! The current boxes are awful. That horrid thick corrguated
> > cardboard with punchtabs is about the worst possible container for LEGO sets.
>
> Actually I like it. Now if someone has returned the set after opening it, or
> worse yet, opened and plundered it at the store, there is no question about it.
> Also those heavy duty cardboard boxes take abuse better than the old boxes
> ever did. Look at the USC stuff, and how those boxes are always beat.
USC? I don't think I'm up on my acronyms.
It's not the cardboard itself that I mind, but the fact that the box can't
be re-closed to contain the pieces inside.
> > I would *gladly* pay a couple extra dollars for a better box. What would the
> > extra cost be for the next Legend...say either Main Street or the Yellow
> > Castle or whatever...to be in a flap-and-tray box instead of these lame
> > thick corrugated boxes? $2.00 extra? $3.00 extra? It would be more than
> > worth it to me.
>
> AgagaghHH! No! I buy Lego sets for the little plastic bricks not for the
> cardboard packaging. I would be really bumbed if I had to pay more for a
> packaging style that some would describe as worse. I throw away the boxes on
> all the sets I buy, so I am not helped by a flap and tray style box.
Well, LEGO started it with the whole "Use this box for storage" deal on the
older sets. It's obviously a point of view issue. If you're buying sets just
to build, then you probably don't care about the boxes. If you're buying to
build an collect (or just to collect) you probably do.
> > Similarly the smaller sets should go back to being released in the
> > double-flap-and-tab design of the early '80s. Those were the only small set
> > boxes in which you could effectively store the pieces without using a
> > zip-lock baggie or something similar. Again, the extra cost for a MUCH
> > better box would be well worth it.
>
> Ok so you want to use these old box styles for storage. I think I can
> understand your point of view. But lets say, going by your pricing, that each
> small set costs $1 more, and the big sets $2 & $3 more. With that same amount
> of money you could buy a 100count box of ziplock baggies (which you can see
> through, something I have never managed to do through cardboard) and a shoebox
> sized plastic container(1). Futhermore, plastic containers are far more robust
> than old Lego boxes ever could be and stackable.
Again, for the sets I collect (rather than ones I buy for the pieces to
build), I am much more interested in preserving the original than I am with
finding the cheapest way to store stuff.
Also, I obviously made up the dollar amounts in terms of the difference in
cost between how things used to be done and how they're done now. I have no
idea if it would actually cost $1 more for a small set...or if it would be
more than that or less than that.
> (1) See the clear plastic containers with the white lids in this picture. Only
> 89cents at my local hardware store (Lowes).
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=63407
I have a lot of other storage methods for pieces themselves...I'm really
addressing storage as it pertains to using the original packaging.
Lou
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Jason Spears wrote:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Lou Zucaro writes:
> <snip>
> > And this is a pet peeve with me...please go back to the flap-and-tray boxes
> > for larger sets!!! The current boxes are awful. That horrid thick corrguated
> > cardboard with punchtabs is about the worst possible container for LEGO sets.
>
> Actually I like it. Now if someone has returned the set after opening it, or
> worse yet, opened and plundered it at the store, there is no question about it.
> Also those heavy duty cardboard boxes take abuse better than the old boxes
> ever did. Look at the USC stuff, and how those boxes are always beat.
The UCS sets are a rotten example. Whoever designed the UCS Tie and X-Wing boxes
should be strangled, hanged, and SHOT. Those are the flimsiest, most useless boxes
I've seen out of Lego. They are double the size they need to be (and at half the
size they'd still have a commanding shelf presence), yet not large enough to store
the models partially disassembled - the X-Wing fuselage is taller in any one
direction that the box.
I've NEVER seen a UCS box in a store that wasn't beat to heck thanks to the flimsy
cardboard and huge size, leading to dents/tears just from picking it up from an
end.
Now, if the UCS boxes had plastic trays in them, they would probably have held up
much better, but they'd still be too danged BIG.
--
Tom Stangl
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The subject tells all. I ask this in light of 10018 and 19 being sent to
stores.
In lugnet.lego.direct, Thomas Stangl writes:
> Jason Spears wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Lou Zucaro writes:
> > <snip>
> > > And this is a pet peeve with me...please go back to the flap-and-tray boxes
> > > for larger sets!!! The current boxes are awful. That horrid thick corrguated
> > > cardboard with punchtabs is about the worst possible container for LEGO sets.
> >
> > Actually I like it. Now if someone has returned the set after opening it, or
> > worse yet, opened and plundered it at the store, there is no question about it.
> > Also those heavy duty cardboard boxes take abuse better than the old boxes
> > ever did. Look at the USC stuff, and how those boxes are always beat.
>
> The UCS sets are a rotten example. Whoever designed the UCS Tie and X-Wing boxes
> should be strangled, hanged, and SHOT. Those are the flimsiest, most useless boxes
> I've seen out of Lego. They are double the size they need to be (and at half the
> size they'd still have a commanding shelf presence), yet not large enough to store
> the models partially disassembled - the X-Wing fuselage is taller in any one
> direction that the box.
>
> I've NEVER seen a UCS box in a store that wasn't beat to heck thanks to the >flimsy cardboard and huge size, leading to dents/tears just from picking it >up from an end.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Frank Vendl II writes:
> Yeah, same here, what gives and does anybody know the current standings?
>
> I want to vote for Main Street!
>
> Signed,
>
> Rick
> LUGNET member #540
>
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> > I've tried to vote for the last four days and I keep getting an error screen
> > that says there is something wrong with the website. what's up?
> >
> > thanks
> > -Lenny Mckee-Hoffman
I doubt this is it- but on Lego's games part,
http://www.lego.com/games/
it has 'KIDS ONLY Like games? Take the survey!' as one of the buttons. It
directs you to the general opinion part, in which games are a categorie. I
wonder why kids only?
I doubt this is actually a problem- but having a non-adult account, I can't
test my theory.
John Kruer
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I was having this problem...I re-registered and the problem went away
(although now I have two logins). My guess is there are some accounts in the
system that are corrupted or missing certain data and therefore trigger the
resulting error (probably when the system tries to either read or write a
particular bit of data from a cookie).
Lou
In lugnet.lego.direct, John Henry Kruer writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Frank Vendl II writes:
> > Yeah, same here, what gives and does anybody know the current standings?
> >
> > I want to vote for Main Street!
> >
> > Signed,
> >
> > Rick
> > LUGNET member #540
> >
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> > > I've tried to vote for the last four days and I keep getting an error screen
> > > that says there is something wrong with the website. what's up?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > -Lenny Mckee-Hoffman
>
> I doubt this is it- but on Lego's games part,
> http://www.lego.com/games/
> it has 'KIDS ONLY Like games? Take the survey!' as one of the buttons. It
> directs you to the general opinion part, in which games are a categorie. I
> wonder why kids only?
>
> I doubt this is actually a problem- but having a non-adult account, I can't
> test my theory.
>
> John Kruer
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"Jeremy Scott" <Copyright@cox.net> wrote in message
news:GutMwL.BGv@lugnet.com...
> The subject tells all. I ask this in light of 10018 and 19 being sent to
> stores.
The RBR from S@H is in the same style large flimsy box as the UCS sets. I
doubt they'd change much going to retail. Does the retail version have a
coloured picture on the box, or black & white like the one from S@H?
Dan
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> Working for LEGO Direct is always fun, but every once in a while a project
> comes along that just makes me giddy when I get to come here and announce
> it.
Memo
To: Occupational Health and Safety, The Lego Group
Subject: Unsafe Working Conditions in Lego Direct
Problem:
A number of recent projects undertaken in Lego Direct have resulted in reports
of staff feeling light-headed. Apart from the obvious loss of staff
productivity, there are a number of safety considerations relating to use of
heavy moulding equipment, WWW updates and the risk of collapsing on other
employees.
Solution:
All staff to be issued with heart rate monitors (chest strap with wrist
read-out) and finger-tip blood pressure monitors for early warning of
symptoms. All staff at Lego Direct to be issued with new chairs incorporating
5-point safety harness and neck brace, to provide support in the event of
sudden collapse. Business process re-engineering should be undertaken, in
conjunction with input from occupational therapists, to reduce access to the
Internet in the Lego Direct workplace (note, affected staff often mentioned
use of the Internet in a work context as a possible causal factor). Managers
should regard fun-exposure as a serious adverse risk factor in the
prioritisation and selection of Lego Direct projects, as it too has been
identified as a possible causal factor. Air-conditioning cooling towers should
also be thoroughly disinfected, just in case.
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