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(...) Thanks to everyone who has answered. I think that these Paul Arzens trains are the closest thing to the real answer to my question. They do seem quite a distinctly European (as opposed to a single country) design and I have noted similar (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I find this interesting, can you quantify or elaborate on what makes a train 'train-like' For example what makes a TGV more train like than for example ICE3 (URL) or Pendolino (URL) I don't think it helps that the trains differ from country to (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'm interested (an supprised that you consider 4561 to be European in feel, When I first saw it I thought space themed more than anything, if I had place it geographically I spose I might pick Japan, but only if pushed. Tim (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) One thing that seems to have been missed in this thread is that the new set is designed to go with the BNSF loco and so it is pretty appropriate and representative of this type of train. It would be nice if this kind of thinking continued, (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The Bettendorf type trucks (is that a manufacturer or a generic type or patent?) look like a swing arm type and yes, are very different from any truck you could make with the stock Lego wheelsets, however I'm sure there are/have been many (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Sez the guy who's now a CSF-lovin' spacer. ;) Build some of your steamers again, foo! Legoswami (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) But you DO have British protos now! There's Thomas, Percy, James and all his other DUPLO freinds to play with! ;-D Legoswami (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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Dear John, dear Tim, (...) Thank you for these insights. It made the whole issue a lot clearer. Thanks, Christian (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) nice choice, Oh well, we can but dream! tim (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) <snip> (...) No, its not bad. I have several of those for that same purpose. Sometimes I wonder if designers are being kind and designing sets with dual purpose uses for some of the parts. Kind of like like buying SW sets and using the (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well, go to 1000steineland in Berlin this summer, and you'll get more than enough European train designs for a start. HTH, Christian (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I think that certainly helps, but I'd be interested in your sources. Mine are just what I vaguely remember from articles in TRAINS magazine all these years (coming up on my 35th anniversary as a subscriber)... (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Ummm guys, if you're gonna keep going down this thread, you might wanna take it to o-t.fun or somewhere - I think it's been way off topic for trains for quite a while now... ROSCO (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, just maybe I'm clever enough to hang out in CSF......nah! :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) It has always been my understanding that the FIRST reason for shared trucks is to reduce Rolling Resistance. Fewer wheels means less rolling resistance. But, I could be wrong on this. . (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Ah yes, the blind leading the blind. You two make quite the pair. Charming, really. Now run along. The grownups have important stuff to talk about. :-) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Actually, Kevoh nailed it. You've been had. JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ya, every time someone trashes Jake for not looking out for us, I remember that set. Pretty slick move. So slick, I'm willing to forgive Jake for finagling his own minifig. (URL) or (URL) WHO can POSSIBLY say that isn't a minifig Jake??? (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Stick to that line of thought, Kevoh... it might even work for you, over with the spacers. (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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In lugnet.trains, James Seibert wrote: <snip> (...) Actually, Jake already delivered on this request, although in a sneaky way. It was Jake who (strongly?) suggested to the set designers that set #7045, Hovercraft Hideout (URL) would greatly benefit (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) No, I think his move was a good one. The classic "I know I made a mistake, but through word play I will make it seem like you are the one with the mistake" You just didn't get the joke. ~Kevoh what's this thread even about? some new train? (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Nice try there, J2... Well played, in fact, but no. You lose. (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Might not have occurred to you that I was kidding; perhaps a bit too subtle. Sorry for any confusion on your end:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed those... I think the part in question is this (URL) one>. Which unfortunately was only shipped in one set (the rather rare 3800). It would be very nice if those were available at PaB. It would be great if (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.publish.photography, lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) This is what is called pointing out that YOU were wrong, within the framework of apology. Sorry if it was a bit too subtle for you! How about this?? "You're wrong! Twice in one thread tree, no less!" (some snippage) (...) Ya, that pretty much (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Marginally, yes. But much more important is the significant reduction in tare(1) weight, and the reduction in length. Since TOFC/COFC(2) is operated at high speeds, in long trains, less tare means more payload per horsepower used, and less (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Yeah it will be interesting to see how that goes. From this pic it seems the axle will only protrude about 2 plates or less into the decking, uneven tracks may well work it loose. (URL) ROSCO (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I cringe a little at the thought of doing something for a show that size... (...) Yep, pretty much. And it would be nice to have a specifically AU set (maybe Ghan or Southern Aurora), but I'm not sure it would be a hit anyway. I was (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Apology accepted. Just don't get it happen again. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Train shows in the UK are many and have up to 20,000 visitors. I've done a 17,500 2-day show at the NEC in Brimingham as well as several 2-3000 shows and a few 500-1000 shows. I have a 14,000 show lined up for September. There are a lot of (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Once more, slowly. I was talking about a 5 unit car. I agree that a 3 unit should work from 2 copies. But a 5 unit MAY or MAY NOT be buildable from 3 copies. It requires 4 center bogies, and 4 pairs of pivot connections. In 3 copies, you get 3 (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) OK, this is only marginally LEGO, but... why the shared bogie? As a non-train type, I've certainly seen these on the tracks, but I'm not sure I understand why it's prefered over seperate cars. Is it just cheaper to produce two cars and three (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Boo Hoo! And speak with reverence when you mention the first 9 volt 8 wide train set produced by TLG! ;-D JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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In lugnet.trains, Mark Bellis wrote: (URL) (...) Doing a halfway decent intermodal terminal (portside or just a flatyard like the ones around Chicago) will chew up a LOT of copies of this set even after you selectively compress down from 50 tracks (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well, lessee. Each set comes with 1 pivot truck and 2 end trucks. With 2 sets, we get 2 pivots and 4 end trucks. A 3 well requires 2 pivots and 2 end trucks, and the single requires 2 end trucks. That seems to work for me. The ends require (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (snip idle speculation) And that reminds me, I wonder if a 5 unit version of this car will have the same minor problem mine does (and that many TGV and Talgo models do as well)? It tends to come loose at the (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I think what he means (and what I'd also like to know) is: Are there enough spare parts in the set to turn the two end bogies into another middle bogie, so that one set can be re-arranged to extend a consist by two pockets. Then two sets could (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Wheels wise, sure. But unless we know how the pivots are designed, maybe not. (for example if I had kitted out my articulated design and made it a 2 unit car, you wouldn't have enough parts with 3 copies to make a 5 unit car as you'd only have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) It seems to me that 2 sets would allow one to build one 3 well car and 1 single well car, and that 3 sets would allow you to build one 5 well car and 1 single well car (in both cases with parts left over). JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well that's precisely what I was driving at! You're no fun. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) That's because a lot of it starts off as US: (URL) Dash 8> (URL) Roster list of the BHPBilliton IRON ORE ROAD> JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I think what Matthew was asking was, is it possible to buy multiple sets and chain them together, or aren't there enough parts to make more mid-cars and mid-bogies? Jason R (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) 100K is not too shabby at all. Bigger than most shows we do in the US actually. (...) Question: My read of AU prototype stuff (from the smattering I've seen mostly thanks to the good offices of AU AFOLS sharing their knowledge) is that while (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) This one looks pretty big (URL) (I must try to check it out one year). And there are many smaller shows across Australia each year. (...) Well, that's another good question. From the feedback we received at our first small show, I'd say (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) You are correct, sir. Typically these are configed in 1, 3, and 5 car consists. (Yes, I've seen one car running standalone on occasion, but not often) Honestly, this came down to a design decision on why we went with two cars. Three would have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Don't forget the single well car! Interestingly, whether at 1 or 3 or 5 wells, they are each considered one car. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well, what's distinct about the trains themselves? There's been some good comments so far but here's some more... -Two axle freight cars -Electric propulsion vs Diesel-Electric -Brighter colours -Advanced technology, eg, TGV, ICE. Overall? (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Jake, I really like the set, and I'm always happy to have another train model to add to my collection, particularly modern frieght. But if I'm not mistaken a prototypical consist of these cars is either 3 or 5 at a time. So are there enough (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Some of Paul Arzens work is typical for Algiers, France, the Netherlands and even Spain (and no doubt many more, he was the French company Alsthom's main designer for several decades): (URL) some of his later work (URL) are the striping, and (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) OK. I think we're getting bogged here though. I'd love to see way more sets in the range too, but my point stands, these sets are good for *a* large market. Not the only market, granted, but one that, prior to the ATSF F unit, had ZIP for (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Living at 50 meters from the Deventer - Almelo tracks, I can give some examples of European train style: 1) no automatic couplers between freight cars 2) buffers (is that the right word for those round shock absorbers that each car end has two (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, as someone who doesn't know enough about trains to know the difference between European and North American trains, I have to say that I really like this new set. I'm delighted that LEGO is offering this new set and plan to pick up 2 or 3 (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) They're not though - they don't work for European fans any more than they work for Americans. Just because they don't look like American prototypes you assume they must therefore satisfy everyone else, and they don't. You can't claim they're (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's not a historical oddity in Europe, where several companies are still producing incredible stuff and among scratch builders it's still populair because of the high degree of detailling compared to N vs the smaller footprint of h0 (it's h0 (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) In the Netherlands we have 4-6 BIG shows (read over 20k visitors, from NW-Europe) every year, plus dozens smaller ones (between dozens and a few hundred attendees) by local clubs and such. (...) The new "high speed train" doesn't look like (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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As an Australian living in the UK I have to weigh in on this debate. (...) Nor do I. If I want realism I'll build it myself. If I want a nice Lego set, I don't care where it comes from (...) One thing I find is that American trains generally look (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Maybe you're thinking of these UP locos: (URL) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) I'm kinda with Larry on this one--rtlToronto, a new additoin to the train show experience, has been doing 3-4 shows per year for the past few years. I know that Calum wants to keep things 'euro' (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Fair cop. How big are train shows elsewhere though? How big is the market elsewhere? In Singapore, no one I talked to (small sample) had even heard of a train show! I suggest that there IS a market here, one worth trying to serve. The US (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Not like that. I'm having trouble with Google, it keeps returning pictures of LEGO trains for all the search terms I used, not particularly useful, so I don't have a pic cite for you, but trust me. (...) No, that's what you're saying I'm (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) And I don't either, I just think its great that Lego is still producing trains, especially ones based on real prototypes (although slightly more generic ones would be good too) However you mention that this set will strike a chord when seen at (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Another well-balanced discussion evolving here I see... (...) Agreed, so far. (...) Er, perhaps that statement could be qualified a little. Maybe North American prototypes resonate with the American audiences that you tend to find attending American (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Yes, I'll agree that the US doesn't really do four wheel vehicles However I have never really thought of the Lego wheelsets as being European as they have coil springs when the style of suspension with W irons represented had/have leaf springs (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well it would please the Daoist in me at least, if not the AdultFOL... Jason Railton (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) And what did 19th century American wheels look like? What you're saying is, it doesn't look like anything current. Jason R (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care. Whatever LEGO produces, I (we) can do better(1). So any set is good, regardless of how it looks as a set, *IF* it has good parts. And I agree that this set looks like it will have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The question of Christian is revealing that the target audience for the TTX is clearly North American (initially desired by TLC or not). I mean european (non AFOL - the main part of TLC customers) audience don't know TTX, and have never seen a (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Practically every US stock car runs on Bettendorf trucks, which resemble this (that Ross created): (URL) The TLG trucks are designed to resemble more of the single axle type for European stock cars. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) American trucks don't have wheel level individual springs. The individual wheels are typically unsprung, and ride in a truck frame that has springs either at the center beam (for freight) or at multiple places in a larger truck frame (for (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Brickshelf?(1) Seriously, I think OnDrew did a boxcar with a flag motif, that might be what you are thinking of. 1 - couldn't resist. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) That's one interpretation. I'm not sure I agree, though. Another one is that it means NON transportation companies, that is, lessors and shippers. X is often appended to reporting marks(1) for equipment owned by NON transportation companies to (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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TLG made 30 years or so worth of Euro style trains, time for the Americans to get a little attention. This set rocks! Looks spot on for the real thing, rivet counters be damned. :) Must...buy...more...TRAINS!!!1 -Stefan- (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'll give you the buffers, but I don't see that the wheelsets are particularly European, in what way do you mean? Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yes, they were formerly know as "Trailer Train" (switching to TTX in 1991). The "X" is commonly used in the rail industry to indicate the word "transportation". HTH, JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) (for those that don't get the reference, TT is one of the "Classic" scales in Model Railroading, along with: - N 1:160 - HO 1:87 - S 1:64 - O 1:48 Out of those 5, it's probably the least popular or least well represented by manufacturers. In (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Please no! No more American proto....I'm sick of it. The Santa Fe and BNSF locomotives are cool, don't get me wrong. They're the most detailed and realistic Lego Trains ever made. They also represent a commitment to the train line beyond the (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I was actually looking for a reefer (or even a boxcar or anything) with a big Stars and Stripes on the side, I'm sure I've seen one somewhere (might even have been a loco) Anyone know where to find it? And appologies for the above (slaps self (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Oh, please. Yeah, it is "American themed" all right-- with euro-style buffers and euro-style wheels. And didn't the last "American themed" loco (the BNSF) come with a brand new train element-- a modern, European buffer? I'll trade you. Let TLG (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) And here I was all set to start pushing for more European designs, but if you really want the reefer instead... :) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Team (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) "TTX Company provides railcars and related freight car management services to the North American rail industry." From (URL) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Its like 1:120 scale modeling, but with stronger frames and chunky tires Oh no, thats BMX ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) This one (URL) ? ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Call me ignorant, but what the heck is this "TTX", anyway? A kind of track gauge? Wondering, Christian Treczoks (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Wow! Great! Another American themed addition to trains. That should go down well with all those USofAFOLs. Let's put some flags out to celebrate. British flag, no, French, German, no good. Oh, no, that one's Australian... European... Oh (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Hey you leave Bomonga out of this! I am just waiting on a set like (URL) this> to come out ;) But ya, trains are ok as long as they are in a nice town layout! The other Mark (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hey now, don't begrudge us our measily few train sets... not with all the Toa Lhikan Kikanalo Gaaki Rahaga Pouks Kualus Norik Bomonga Iruini Vakama Nokama Hordika Whenua Onewa Matau Nuju Rhotuka Panrahk Lerahk Guurahk Vorahk Turahk Vhisola (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I don't know how long this will last or if the offer has expired. Someone from the Gateway Lego Users Group noticed this offer and sent the following info out on the group list. --- In GtwLug... Blackrock <blackrock@y...> wrote: (...) (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hey look! Another train! Who would have ever guessed?!? ;) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Can you give any more details about this bulk track purchase thing you mentioned? Rafe (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Agreed. The more rolling stock, the better. I was at a train store the other day and marvelled at the literally hundreds of cars available in different gauges. More L gauge stuff is only good. Thanks Jake and all who helped put this together. (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Ok... the set is very cool looking. Great work LEGO®. However, I do think the set needs at least one or two train minifigs with TTX or BNSF logo stickers or even printed on the minifigs. The reasons is I am thinking is... 1) There are LEGO fans who (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Even though I am a committed 8 wider, I love this new container car (and the BNSF which preceded it). This set (and the newer BNSF) actually creates in me a dilemma. On the one hand, I want to show off my building prowess by constructing 8 wide (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Cute set, but I question the 'play value'. No minifig, nothing to put *into* the containers, no crane to load and unload them -- it's just something to go around the track. A bit juniorized for us die-hard Train heads, but I think the average (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Thanks Jake! This is a great looking set, especially needed for a Monday. And this, after finding out there is now a discount on bulk track purchases in one of the online catalogs! And, yes, I am willing to be counted as a sucker. Considering all (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) This was something that caught me off-guard at Celebration III in Indy. Certainly 99.9% of the folks there were Star Wars fans, yet the LEGO booth was hopping, selling product like crazy. The ISD sold out - they were taking orders to be (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the announcement and ILTCO pictures Mike! We were just discussing the lack of new trains this year at our RichLug meeting on Saturday. Low and behold a new Intermodal Double-Stack Car!!! Now I've got a reason to scan S&H weekly for (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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