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Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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Tue, 3 May 2005 16:34:04 GMT
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As an Australian living in the UK I have to weigh in on this debate.
> American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care.
Nor do I. If I want realism I'll build it myself. If I want a nice Lego set, I
don't care where it comes from
> But at another level, the train show level, I do care. North American prototypes
> resonate with the audiences at train shows better than european ones do, and
> they fit in with the sorts of layouts I like to do. I think it's goodness to be
> able to point to high quality sets (high that I am willing to have them on my
> layout) and say "you can't buy THAT, a club member did it, but you can buy THIS
> if you want, isn't it cool" to the mundanes.
One thing I find is that American trains generally look more consistent and
"train"-like to me than European ones (the notable exception to this is the
TGV). I don't think it helps that the trains differ from country to country so
much either. Overall, I think if I was a newbie I would favour a train like
10020 over most rolling stock from Europe (TGV excepted again), likewise 10133.
What is distinctly European rolling stock anyway? I live here, I look at trains
but I find it hard to see something really identifiable and "cool".
NB. This is not an attack on anyone, merely my own experience but I figure that
as a non-USA, non-European I can offer a slightly unbiased view.
Hope that all makes sense anyway...
Tim
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| (...) Living at 50 meters from the Deventer - Almelo tracks, I can give some examples of European train style: 1) no automatic couplers between freight cars 2) buffers (is that the right word for those round shock absorbers that each car end has two (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) Some of Paul Arzens work is typical for Algiers, France, the Netherlands and even Spain (and no doubt many more, he was the French company Alsthom's main designer for several decades): (URL) some of his later work (URL) are the striping, and (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) Well, what's distinct about the trains themselves? There's been some good comments so far but here's some more... -Two axle freight cars -Electric propulsion vs Diesel-Electric -Brighter colours -Advanced technology, eg, TGV, ICE. Overall? (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) I find this interesting, can you quantify or elaborate on what makes a train 'train-like' For example what makes a TGV more train like than for example ICE3 (URL) or Pendolino (URL) I don't think it helps that the trains differ from country to (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care. Whatever LEGO produces, I (we) can do better(1). So any set is good, regardless of how it looks as a set, *IF* it has good parts. And I agree that this set looks like it will have (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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