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Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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lugnet.trains
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Tue, 3 May 2005 15:42:32 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote:
> Another well-balanced discussion evolving here I see...
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> In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care.
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> > Whatever LEGO produces, I (we) can do better(1). So any set is good, regardless
> > of how it looks as a set, *IF* it has good parts. And I agree that this set
> > looks like it will have some great parts (and stickers). Parts is parts, as long
> > as they aren't POOP.
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> Agreed, so far.
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> > But at another level, the train show level, I do care. North American prototypes
> > resonate with the audiences at train shows better than european ones do
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> Er, perhaps that statement could be qualified a little. Maybe North American
> prototypes resonate with the American audiences that you tend to find attending
> American train shows. I'm not sure you can be so definite about the entire rest
> of the planet.
Fair cop.
How big are train shows elsewhere though? How big is the market elsewhere? In
Singapore, no one I talked to (small sample) had even heard of a train show! I
suggest that there IS a market here, one worth trying to serve.
The US prototype train market has been underserved by LEGO for a long long time,
I find it amusing that there's so much grousing now after we got a whole 4 or 5
sets. (you can't count the two new "mainstream" sets or any of the
accessories... they're all european!)
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Message has 5 Replies:
 | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) I'm kinda with Larry on this one--rtlToronto, a new additoin to the train show experience, has been doing 3-4 shows per year for the past few years. I know that Calum wants to keep things 'euro' (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) In the Netherlands we have 4-6 BIG shows (read over 20k visitors, from NW-Europe) every year, plus dozens smaller ones (between dozens and a few hundred attendees) by local clubs and such. (...) The new "high speed train" doesn't look like (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) They're not though - they don't work for European fans any more than they work for Americans. Just because they don't look like American prototypes you assume they must therefore satisfy everyone else, and they don't. You can't claim they're (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) This one looks pretty big (URL) (I must try to check it out one year). And there are many smaller shows across Australia each year. (...) Well, that's another good question. From the feedback we received at our first small show, I'd say (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| (...) Train shows in the UK are many and have up to 20,000 visitors. I've done a 17,500 2-day show at the NEC in Brimingham as well as several 2-3000 shows and a few 500-1000 shows. I have a 14,000 show lined up for September. There are a lot of (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | Re: 10170 TTX Intermodal Double-Stack Car Preview
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| Another well-balanced discussion evolving here I see... (...) Agreed, so far. (...) Er, perhaps that statement could be qualified a little. Maybe North American prototypes resonate with the American audiences that you tend to find attending American (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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