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Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
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Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:59:15 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

I shan't respond to your antiprivatization rantings except to say that
privatization always works.

I can't agree with this.  Privatization does not work when profit should
not be the ultimate goal.  Consider Aramark.  Aramark took over the
dining services at UT last year.  They have indeed done wonders to
improve the profitability of the dining program.  One used to be able to
buy a 40 cent cup of generic coffee, a 60 cent bagel, a 60 cent scoop of
ice cream, and 40 cent sausage biscuit.  Now, thanks to their
"improvements," one can only buy $1.50 cup of Starbucks (R), $1.29
deluxe bagel, $2.39 scoop of Ben & Jerry's (R) ice cream (Aramark is the
only distributer in the area, they are proud to boast), and a $1.79
deluxe (4 times as large) sausage biscuit.  The problem is that students
have a fixed amount on money that they are required to spend at dining
facilities.  A student should have the option to purchase a 40 cent cup
of store brand coffee when they don't have the option of going anywhere
else, and a deluxe sausage biscuit is no better if one can only eat 1/4
of it anyway.
The privatization of the food service at UT has simply put one more
thing between the university and the students that it supposedly exists
for.  (Don't let me get started on the athletic program.)

Naji
n (dot) norder (at) computer (dot) org

* The prices I listed are what I remember my fiancee telling me.  I
don't eat at any Aramark establishment myself.  If essential, I could
verify these.  I think I have them all about right.



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  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
(...) <much info specific to the losers running the UT dining facilities snipped, all true> As a side note, the guys in my office refer to getting breakfast each morning at the cafeteria closest to us as "breakfast lotto". We're all fairly set on (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
(...) I'm sorry. You weren't listening when I said that any so called "privatization failure" can be explained by analysing and demonstrating why it wasn't really privatization. You proved my point. You have given an example of a replacement of one (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
(...) You seem to be mixing privatization with monopolization. I agree that it is still a monopoly, and as thus it still has special problems and considerations that need to be dealt with but are usually ignored. However, this does definitely meet (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
<36E6E395.35B7F068@c...puter.org> <36E7102B.6B18DB9B@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Oh, and I forgot to say... under MY definition, it wasn't privatization. Take your choice... your (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
<36E74AC3.DF4ABBA2@voyager.net> <36E82620.D84B40F3@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) It seems that there was a major fiber cut in Atlanta today. 2 of our 3 ISPs are down. Strange that I (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
<36E74AC3.DF4ABBA2@voyager.net> <36E82620.D84B40F3@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, OK, I was being a little flippant, but my argument boils down to this: It WAS a successful (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
<36EAE2D3.5DECD9C@voyager.net> <36EB0747.F21DAC91@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PBS does a better job of getting their facts right, usually, but their bias sometimes is astonishingly huge. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861
 
<36EAE2D3.5DECD9C@voyager.net> <36EB0747.F21DAC91@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) There are individuals who work in the media who are with clue, but I agree with Larry. _The Media_ as (...) (25 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Who, me? I have so many gray noses at this point I may actually sell one off!!! (gulp) and I only have two white ones, so it wasn't me, ok? We're TRACKing your insinuations and would prefer not to be RAILROADed through the court of public (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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