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(...) Agreed. (...) But lastworditis forces me to say that I feel it is indeed (the effect of too much regulation, too much government promising to make it right and too much big daddyism). :-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right you are, sir. It started in .people... but, after all, generals are people too! <GD&R> ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you wanted .off-topic.fun, because .general is for LEGO related stuff, and the joke, AFAICT, din't have nuthin' to do with LEGO. (...) Uhh, uhh, you have to swallow a 2x4 brick and write a 500 word essay on why installing the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (“Back to .general again”? – It was never there that I’m aware.) I sent a copy to .general since that was the best group I could find to share Frank’s great nuke joke. I figured that any follow up would be to the same .off-topic.debate group (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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Boy, I may not subscribe to off.topic.debate anymore, but you have to love the Subject line! : ) Larry, in all of his wisdom, shines through again. I like my SUV at it's present height, BTW, I think most of these posts should be centered on poor (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know this idea rankles your Libertarian side, Lar, but easily 80% of the US needs "good ideas" to be regulated for them, because they wouldn't understand consensual logic and working together if it bit them on the apricots. Whether or not (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you'd add onto this a policy of full disclosure, I think I'd agree here. My concern is that there could easily be a practice of rug-sweeping, under which companies do whatever they feel like doing, all the while spinning and respinning (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Chapple writes: <snip> To .general readers. This thread was happily ensconsed in .debate, where it belongs. I'm not sure why SRC pointed it back to .general again. I didn't notice that, and I apologise that my (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Sorry, that Canadian education must have been letting you down: (URL) #3 sense 1: Made before or without examination) (...) Really? I wasn't aware that government was responsible for making the world safe. I don't see it in OUR constitution (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) The presumption is that government isn't (ideally) a throng of people who just happen to be in the same place. One hopes that the government is a body of individuals empowered to act on behalf of others, and likewise held in by a framework of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) " a priori " ??? (...) I agree in general with what Larry is saying, but I also agree with Richard. Some basic rules/safety standards should be in place. That, after all is the purpose of government. We collectively agree that we'll drive on (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Whoops! c/tardy/long/ The deliveries are not tardy. Todd clearly states that some time will transpire between payment and shipment. Sorry about that, I made that particular joke too quickly. ++Lar (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you hear that, Todd? People are joking about nuking Boston due to your tardy delivery times! :-) (...) Right. Those that call for regulation seem to think that some bureaucrat knows better what is safe and what isn't than the marketplace (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well...a couple days ago I had a reply half written on the web interface, but unfortunately a computer freeze made me lose it. Here I go again, after I've had a bit more time to think it through :) (...) I'm no one to tell them what they (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Though I wouldn't absolve the track and driver of all responsibility, but I agree that their liability is limited. Assuming that reasonable expectations of safety inspections etc. have been followed, there ought to be no liability (but if for (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with much of what you have stated in the rest of your response. As to the above, I only want to be very specific about what I am trying to get across: I don't care about banning SUVs or Monster trucks, I care about their approximate (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I understand what you're saying, yes. Paraphrasing: Guns are tools. Cars are tools. Drugs are tools. Our own bodies are tools. Rather than regulating what sorts of tools people can possess or behaviours we can engage in with our own bodies, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure I'm understanding your statement; are you saying that the occupants of SUV's and compacts are at similar risk of fatality? I think the concern, in addition to SUV-driver risk, is that SUV's may cause more injury to those in the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) An important note here, that I've mentioned before - I believe that my injuries were so minimal in part because the SUV WAS higher than my vehicle and thus rode up on top of my car, which involved more of the car in energy absorbing crumpling (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This topic isn't exactly an obsession of mine but I thought I'd point out that much more than certain "costs" are at stake here. And I for one am not prepared to accept that money will cover for the damages (i.e. the ability to cover for the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jude Beaudin" <shiningblade@home.com> wrote in message news:G17EzI.EK1@lugnet.com... (...) S@H (...) fly.:-) (...) Hey Jude, Too many Indians, not enough chiefs? Have fun! John (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Chiming in a bit late here. As usual, it's not regulation that's needed, per se, but some encouragement of responsibility. That super high SUV driver needs to be responsible for things his SUV causes. I would posit that no-fault insurance (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Here is the answer to the racism debate! OK, it is Duplo, but still... My plan is to start an argument about Fort Legoredo and see if they do a S@H special with it. Fort Legoredo was the greatest set ever. There you go now the fur will (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.fun)
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(...) Check out the reliablity ratings of a Miata vs. a Suburban - I'll be picking you up. Unfortunately, I won't be able to fit your Suburban in my trunk, but we'll have a great time zipping around corners without rolling over. I promise only to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess you're right - We don't have the hot temperatures up here that (combined with underinflation?) seem to trigger the Firestone mishaps. Just yesterday, right outside my window, a little Sprint was rear-ended by a big Dakota 4x4. It (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It would be more fun if I was making money by doing this (LUGNET), so that's always a factor, but this is also something Tim and I had talked about a few months back as a then-distant possibility. It's less distant after having figured out (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He said it wouldn't, IIRC... and that's good enough for me. However, small!=0. That said, if Todd can't set his priorities ultimately (after taking input and evaluating it) as he sees fit, it's not going to be much fun for Todd here, is it? (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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First off, let's separate the move of the ring out of the discussion. I'm coming around to the viewpoint that for valid technical, feature building, and community reasons, moving the ring to LUGNET is a good idea, relatively low cost to Todd and (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that (...) doesn't (...) That's what I was getting at by saying that adding the per trip subsidy of each method is necessary for a complete comparison. Frank (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ummm, ok... here goes. (ramble ahead- beware) I know a couple from India as well, who has had an arranged marriage. I also know a whole branch of my extended family, who are orthodox Jews, that have had all their marriages arranged, not to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wonderful....just...wonderful. I feel fer ya, WAMALUG and SeaLUG. -Tim (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Also eGroups, though I don't think that deal is totally complete yet. Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Air Market: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (URL) (24 years ago, 20-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I should probably clarify this statement. I'm not saying that I know how much programming or effort it will take Todd to do this, and I realize that his time pretty much equals money here. I'm making a half-assumption here based on what we (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Alrighty. (...) My problems with Yahoo are as follows: 1) Moral issues - I haven't experienced the porn banner ads personally, but from Jeremy's description its abhorring to me and I want nothing to to with a company who shoves smut down (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm having some minor trouble passing this gnat. I was hinting that Yahoo was the One Ring to bind all, etc. Communities like LUGNET, OTOH, would be the rag-tag army of light to eventually defeat Sauron and his minions. :-, re: gnats & (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This being .debate, I'm going to continue to ask you to be more specific. What exactly is it that bothers you about Yahoo? I don't see buying up services and systems in order to extend the reach of what Yahoo is able to offer Yahoo users as (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John DiRienzo writes: First off, I just want to say I apologize to John, I think I misunderstood a lot from here, and we had our own disagreements elsewhere. I sincerely apologize to you Johm, and everyone here, for being (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) of (...) least (...) c /ferry fare/true cost of the ferry/ and I agree. (the ferry was government subsidised as well. ++Lar (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have to talk with Suzanne about it first. She's not feeling well this week so I haven't had a chance yet. --Todd (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You see, Bruce? There is hope yet for you! : ) Scott (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, a professor who encourages his students to jam an entire country into a three word stereotype. There's only one word for that: Sad. Violent? It's all in your point of view. I think Rwanda and Bosnia are violent. Gonzalas was wrong about (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A recent disccussion from my English Teacher's old professor on visiting Egypt... Upon meeting the college-level students at Cario U. he asked them what they thought of the U.S.A... they fuilled the whole 10' by 5' board. He asked if they could (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course one should compare the toll cost to the ferry fare. If the toll cost is significantly below the ferry fare, then it probably does make economic sense. Of course one has to factor in the subsidy also, best way to do that of course is (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:G0yMvK.9rF@lugnet.com... (...) one (...) To them, mini-figs are food! But seriously, it is not only to make themselves look better that people discriminate. It is deeper than that - most (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Though I don't find advertiser supported services objectionable (I'm working on developing one), principles Yahoo has used here have disgusted me, and also their littering of the internet with their brand has as well. That's all my opinion, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The government got lucky, I'd say. designing for lowest total cost of ownership is something that government projects usually completely miss, with their emphasis on lowest initial cost. Has anyone used the concrete forming plant/prefab (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Presumably some fraction of the ~40% who voted "against" in the plebscite... ++Lar (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <shrug> Sorry for being unclear - I wasn't trying to imply that the bridge *was* privatized, but that it provided a good economic model for privatization. Whether traffic levels did/can justify it in the first place is, to a certain extent, a (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G153tw.FLp@lugnet.com... (...) that (...) of (...) doesn't (...) least (...) And it really ticked off many of the P.E.I. inhabitants ... -- -Rob. ===...=== New sets and parts for sale (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ersatz privatization I would have to say... the government is giving an operating subsidy to the tune of 40M CDN a year it seemed like. That doesn't count as true privatization. With Auto tolls at something like 25 CDN a crossing, this looks (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) a (...) -ish. I would argue that the above aren't turning money into time, just letting me spend time more efficiently. I boil it down to: I can spend 8 hours, and a modicum of effort, and earn/generate a certain amount of money. i.e. Larry's (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snipped some neat stuff about the Mackinac bridge> A really cool bridge (in a number of ways) is the Confederation Bridge that links P.E.I. to the rest of Canada. I learned about it from a case (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I used to like yahoo when it was 2 guys and 'yahoo' meant 'you always have other options'. They are a company now, and somehow, I don't think that is as good as 2 guys. Build On John Matthews Sproaticus <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Matthew Miller" <mattdm@mattdm.org> wrote in message news:slrn8sdf01.lvi.....bu.edu... (...) years (...) separate (...) rights. (...) Unfortunately, I don't believe I do. (...) Yeah, not worth it. I noted that before so that I could acknowledge it (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) find a (...) Indeed. And one of the basic tenets of capitalism is that while it's not possible to make goods appear out of thin air, it IS possible to make wealth seemingly appear from nothing, in that every time someone invents a new more (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's content admin (1) and yes, I agree, the effects are showing and building nicely. I was talking about user admin. You know, the icky part. That is a lot harder. Witness the whole admin council thing. I don't think you think that's (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, not sure I completely understand the questions. My memory is very hazy here... I just went and checked a few sites: (URL) (this is the Bridge Authority site) The bridge was built in the mid 1950s at a cost of ~70-100M in mid 50s dollars. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every time you pay someone else to do something you could do yourself, you invest money to get time. Cleaning services, diaper servies, oil change services... I'd class all of those that way. Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Air (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, actually, I totally agree. The challenge is getting the (infra)structure lain in. It's been increasing graudually and will be picking up. In the sets DB, for example, there are 4 other people (Suzanne, Joshua Delahunty, Selçuk Göre, and (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) a (...) Another way to turn money into time is to pay someone else to do stuff for you so you don't have to spend the time on it yourself. In fact, our whole economy is based on the fact that you can turn money into time in this fashion (and (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops, looks like I misspoke(wrote). I just went back to the USPTO search page (URL) searched again with the "Registered" radio button selected (instead of "Both") and it didn't show up there, but showed up under "Pending." Thus, it appears (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) Just curious, how far off from completely paying for the bridge were the bonds and the $3.50 toll to pay them off? I don't see a problem with the government building roads and bridges if they use user fees to raise the money to build them, and (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To the extent that that e-mail forms a contract (which is relatively weak), and that e-mail has no specific provisions for review or renewal, I suspect you could continue using "webring" for the site(s)/system(s) described in that e-mail (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) Do you still have that e-mail? That would be a good thing. "Web ring" is an extremely descriptive mark, and if you realllly wanted to go to court, you might be able to argue fair use. But I certainly don't think it's worth that! (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) We're mostly all in agreement here, then. What we're doing is choice 1. I think choice 2 might be not so hot of an idea for the "general" ring (although I may set up one just for GoB if the rest of the 'smiths want me to) as it's divisive. Or (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Check. The above is one of my fundamental axioms! EVERYTHING has a cost. The cost may not be visible to some participants but it is there. TANSTAAFL! Wishing away cost won't make it go away, there are no free goods. (...) Right, and I'd rather (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G13t90.194@lugnet.com... (...) servicemark (...) services (...) users (...) contain (...) word (...) This contradicts an email I got from a Webring representative a couple years ago, saying (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) <snip, extraction mine> In theory, they don't. (or rather, the cost is inherently shared between all participants by their very participation) The basic functionality of a webring is (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Webrings shouldn't cost that much money. It's not a portal service (in the current industry sense of the word). It's simply a linked-list collection of Web site URLs and descriptions, nothing more. If it gets really expensive, then it's not (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) According to the USPTO, Yahoo! (via GeoCities) has a registered servicemark on WEBRING, with pseudo marks WEB RING and WE BRING, in the goods and services category of "Computer software, namely a navigation tool that enables users of a global (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) Which is the definition that counts. (...) Yes, I suppose. But I do it from a screen that i'm not looking at anyway (I'm doing it right now as I type this... I clicked on an ad and switched away) which makes it only a teeny bit intrusive. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) s/do you/did you/ Front page, search engine, "my" portal with stock price views and news. Oh, and I read their Reuters feed a lot. Yer typical "male aged 18-59" stuff. The ads were for Playboy and Maxim, FWIW. Porn by my definition. I have (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking for myself, I find what Yahoo is trying to do a tad offensive. I can't quite pin down exactly what it is about Yahoo, but it has something to do with how much leverage they are getting in the Web publishing market, the aggressiveness (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yes, I've seen those sets too, it was called "LEGO world family" or something. It had black duplo people, and I think chinese ones, too. --Tobias (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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[lugnet.general trimmed, while this isn't off-topic, it's definitely .debate!] (...) Also, <set:4285 Classic Value Bucket 4285>.[1] The US (North American?) Retail catalog tends to be well-balanced, as far as the models (people, not lego sets!) in (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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FUT lugnet.off-topic.debate, because this has less and less to do with Lego... (...) You know, I hear this said a lot, but just to play decil's advocate, it could easily be argued that small children also haven't learned that electrical sockets are (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
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(...) that's not .off-topic. ;) In any case, it would be doubly effective against dinosaurs, because they do have brains the size of peas. best Lindsay.nl (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Two points I need to make for others reading this. I don't agree with the tone of Scott's message, just the general concept that things have gotten better on the racism front. Hardly perfect, but much better. The second is the irony of my (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heh. Those Dino Island folks are pretty sharp, aren't they? (URL) Mark's Lego Creations (URL) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
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(...) While the following is almost absolutely useless, it's sort of amusing... Many years ago, we were playing with MS Flight Simulator, and were playing the WWI battle game. Someone decided to see how high they could fly the plane before running (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Slavery is not racism, although it is evil enough. At least, there are many places around the world, developed very well, where there is no slavery, but plenty of racism. And I don't think being not racist is just calling black people (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, Lego produces figures that are representatives of the several ethnicity. I saw several duplo figures sets, marketed under dacta brand. Selçuk (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Semantically, there's no necessary connection. But around 1800 or so, with the rise of scientific racism, the two became linked. It started out as a way for otherwise decent human beings to "justify" the moral rectitude of slavery (and later, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(lugnet.general taken off the list) (...) Unfortunately, yes. And certainly *not* limited to racism. This applies to everything from clothes and artificial appearance to manner of speech, body structure, certain ticks or subconcious movements (1). (...) (24 years ago, 17-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have one here: 4216: A black girl. 4225 also had a black person, I think. 4222 has a chinese or japanese person. --Tobias (24 years ago, 16-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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"Scott E. Sanburn" <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote in message news:002b01c01f5b$7c...default... (...) to (...) that (...) decent (...) Ah, Scott, Lugnet's voice of reason. ;-P So you are telling me slavery = racism? These are different things. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatic...mblock.ca> wrote in message news:G0yI4w.J3p@lugnet.com... (...) Its sad, but true. Humans in general are always looking for a selfish way to elevate themselves and put down others to make themselves look (...) (24 years ago, 16-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) I wonder about this. I tend to believe that no matter where you find people, you find the same basic human tendencies. One of those, unfortunately, happens to be prejudice (not just limited to racism). Based upon that I would expect to find as (...) (24 years ago, 16-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, John DiRienzo (<G0xz8F.Fon@lugnet.com>) wrote at 18:55:26 (...) From this year's UK catalogue, page 21, Basic set 4216. Also, one of the girls in the LEGO Friends software on page 48. (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Ahhhhhh! No! Noted Miata-driving liberal agrees with noted SUV-driving conservative. Film at 11! Bruce (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) USA. (...) This is got to be the funniest or at least the most pathetic statement I have read yet in this never ending debate. The USA has done nothing in 211 years about racism? Yes, tere are problems, but I think it will get better over (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, this is a stupendous day for Lugnet! Tim, John, and I are agreeing on a heated topic! How did this happen?! Dave! (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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"John DiRienzo" <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote in message news:G0xz8F.Fon@lugnet.com... (...) into (...) I (...) replies, (...) States, (...) type (...) me (...) After reading through this post of yours, even though you did bring up a touchy subject, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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| | John -- please reply (was: Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego)
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(...) John, I tried writing you a reply by e-mail and it bounced: ===...=== ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <ig88888888@stlnet.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.postnet.com.: (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
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I put this in lugnet.general because I don't know where it started. We ain't what we oughta be We ain't what we wanta be We ain't what we gonna be But thank God we ain't what we was. -MLK Perhaps some people will be mad at me for bringing this (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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If you had called me a jerk, Richard, I would not mind, as I look back and I think I was. But calling Lar a jerk. C'mon dude. Extreme? Yes. Intense? Yes. Well mannered? Yes. Right about a lot of things? Yes. A jerk? No. I still like you, but I did (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
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Land from what altitude? I doubt if you'd be able to glide all the way in while staying beneath radar... unless these planes have phenomenally good glide characteristics. ~M (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) aviation craft can land from an altitude with engine turned off, just as a glider, by the help of high lift to weight ratio and very low stall velocity, and of course with an able pilot on controls. I think this could be the ultimate silence. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 17 tones (metric) normally, 22 tones during wartime, and up to 30 tones max. (requires special order). They are from the TOs (IIRC), so should not be unique to TAF. They were quite good at STOL (without any external boosters or something), (...) (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A helicopter wouldn't really make much more noise than an OV-10 Bronco, and you get vertical flight too. If it's good enough for the SEALS, it's good enough for me. ;^) Personally, I think the V-22 Osprey is cool as heck, but I wouldn't want (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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