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Re: Bridges (was Re: Lego Maniac's Webring and Yahoo)
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Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:45:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:

A really cool bridge (in a number of ways) is the Confederation Bridge that
links P.E.I. to the rest of Canada.  I learned about it from a case study of
good engineering, and it's also a strong case for good economics and
feasability of privatization.

Ersatz privatization I would have to say... the government is giving an
operating subsidy to the tune of 40M CDN a year it seemed like. That doesn't
count as true privatization. With Auto tolls at something like 25 CDN a
crossing, this looks like a bridge that doesn't make economic sense, at least
not superficially.

<shrug> Sorry for being unclear - I wasn't trying to imply that the bridge
*was* privatized, but that it provided a good economic model for privatization.
Whether traffic levels did/can justify it in the first place is, to a certain
extent, a different issue.

I've had a bit more time to browse the website today, and it doesn't seem to
talk about any of the things we covered in the case study.  We were focused
more on the engineering aspects of it (and there's some really cool things),
but we also covered a bit of the economics.  One of the strong points of the
CB project is that the design, construction and maintenance were considered as
a whole, not as seperate aspects.  Linking those gives a very solid, economic
motivation for good design and construction, because they are going to have to
build & maintain what they designed.  I didn't see the website mention
anywhere that
One of the things that was touched on was that the part the government played
could have been filled by venture capital.

I'll have to hunt around, and see if I can find that case study.

James



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  Re: Bridges (was Re: Lego Maniac's Webring and Yahoo)
 
(...) The government got lucky, I'd say. designing for lowest total cost of ownership is something that government projects usually completely miss, with their emphasis on lowest initial cost. Has anyone used the concrete forming plant/prefab (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Bridges (was Re: Lego Maniac's Webring and Yahoo)
 
(...) Ersatz privatization I would have to say... the government is giving an operating subsidy to the tune of 40M CDN a year it seemed like. That doesn't count as true privatization. With Auto tolls at something like 25 CDN a crossing, this looks (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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