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  Re: My LDraw Inliner
 
(...) Hey, could I get a bug report on the ldglite inliner too? I get almost no feedback. The one ldglite user must be really busy these days... Don (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Spot the bug
 
(...) Use i i.s.o. j - it's easy when you know where to look ;-) (...) Wish I could see it... /Lars (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Spot the bug
 
In this bit of code I wrote months ago, I finally discovered the bug. Or two. Can you? if (mRendererType->IsGL()) { // different 4x4 matrix convention requires transpose GLfloat m[16]; for (int j=0; j<4; j++) { for (int i=0; j<4; j++) { m[i*4+j] = (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  My LDraw Inliner
 
Since I have troubles with all inliners I've found, I decided to make my own. I also included the Delphi 4 source if anyone likes to study it. (URL) and Carsten: Sorry, your inliners won't work on my system. They should work, but I don't know why (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) Thanks, Tobbe. You're right. Contests are a great thing, and I'd like to see more of them. Keeps that community spirit up. :-) -Tim (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) Ah come on Dan, he's not bullying me in any way, he asked me very nicely not to use the name, which I have no problem with since it's actually _their_ name with my flavour on it. No big deal and it's not in the spirit of the LEGO community to (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) "I'd like to intoduce the Peeron LEGO Guide, a brand new web site, not at all to be confused with the Boger's guide in any way...after all, it's just a name, right? Certainly they won't have a problem with folks being confused about where (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) I take sole responsibility. I do not see why anyone is so upset about it - I wrote a respectful request and an explanation, did not back it up with any threat of action. Hindsight is 20/20, and I SHOULD have run it by Steve and Terry before (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
In lugnet.technic, Tobbe Arnesson wrote: [snip] Tim, Did you actually talk to the other guys of ldraw.org before trying to use the name to bully Tobbe? I mean, ldraw.org isn't your personal site, is it? Is there a committee that makes these (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: *** LDView Version 1.9.2 Released ***
 
I installed the 23.11 driver, after that i see the model (the standard car.dat). Except sometimes spikes apear from it, as if some coordinates lie far outside the model. After a few spins it lockes up the whole system. I also tryed the asus driver (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ** MLCAD V2.12 **
 
(...) Was just about to email you & tell you this when I saw your post 8?) Thanks ROSCO (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: ** MLCAD V2.12 **
 
Wow! What great new features!! Both two things I have been waiting to see for some time!! (...) Under "Edit" > "Sort" (...) Under "Edit..." > "Add" > "Autosteps..." I also just noticed something else new. I am not sure if this has been added in the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: ** MLCAD V2.12 **
 
Some strange problem occured during packaging the new version. I've tried the executable in the zip-file and in my case it crashed all the time ... no idea what's going on. However I repackaged everything and now it seems to be fine ... Please (...) (23 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  ** MLCAD V2.12 **
 
I happy to announce that MLCad V2.12 is out now. The most importand change in this release is the bug-fix for the unsolicted crash of MLCad, some corrections for LDR and two new things: - Sorting of parts in a model by color, name or position - (...) (23 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: A study on a train front....
 
(...) Excellent use - I had a feeling someone would find an imaginative use for these - hence (URL) one seems to have more potential uses than the related parts with "wings". Chris (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Primitives based on other primitives?
 
Hello! I noticed in part tracker this part from Paul : Part 4-4ring9 - Hi-Res Ring 9 x 1 Its based on another primitve 1-4ring9. My question is: Does it make sense? IMHO this is only slowing down programs and isnt really helpful. Any comments on it? (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DirectX and .dat
 
Thanks all, I am going to concetrate on them normals then. I even got some ideas on how to determn the correct direction for them by examening base lego parts. But first things first, back to math class for me :) Roland (...) (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM voting for March is open
 
(...) Certain messages arriving in my mailbox are copied to my phone through a SMTP to SMS/GSM gateway. The status report from the program that updates the MOTM/SOTM voting pages is one of that kind of messages. Another example is the report the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM voting for March is open
 
"Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message news:GsABo8.CwG@lugnet.com... (...) How so? From a script you wrote? Scheduling on the phone? -Tim fut -> lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, though will probably end up in off-topic.fun (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM voting for March is open
 
We have entered a new month, and that means that it is time to take a look at all the nice renderings entered in the competition for the title LDraw.org Model/Scene of the Month for March 2002. Take a look at (URL) make a (hard) decision. Play well, (...) (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)  
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?  [DAT]
 
I see now that your problem is difficult to solve. Sorry I tried to put it into a nutshell, Steve. My preference would be to design an auxiliary file for each case, and markup the LDRAW part in a very general way, so that future programs could (...) (23 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) Right! I have always thought of the "0 IFNDEF L3PPOV" as a way to utilize most of the normal LDraw lines (that L3P can convert to equivalent POV code) and only replace a small tricky curvy section by some POV code that would look better. This (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) When I wrote this message, I was trying to figure some rational way to mix LDraw and L3P/POV-Ray code. Something like: 0 IFNDEF L3PPOV (ldraw code) 0 ELSE 0 #if (STUDS) 0 LDRAW 0 1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 stud2.dat 0 LDRAW END 0 #end 0 (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) I'm not following. Are you agreeing with the idea of using embedded POV-Ray code, or having separate file libraries? I *think* you agree with the second, am I right? The one thing we gain by having embedded POV-Ray code is the ability to have (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
In a nutshell, 'namespaces'. Switching among parts libraries to get different versions (or different data) should be an application capability, not the individual part file. (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) Well, if thats how you really feel, then why even bother to "write up a spec/reference page on 0 IFDEF" at all. The instant you put the line: 0 IFDEF <code> in a part file you're blessing a non-ldraw extension. The <code> is by definition a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Another stupid part-authoring question (Primo?!?)
 
(...) Yes, the stud is hollow. The studline substitution would leave a hole 56 (or at least 48) LDU across... big enough to fit a microfig-scale capital ship. -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Don Heyse writes: [snipped things down a bit] (...) Generally, yeah. But mostly to the extent that I haven't thought it through enough. (...) That could work, but IMO only pushes the issue to the side. To some extent, LDraw.org (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello Ryan, i looked at the problem and you are right. I will fix it in the next version because current one is almost bug-free and in want ti implement one or two more features. Thanx for telling Carsten "Ryan Farrington" <ryanjf@ifriendly.com> (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) So it appears as if we agree that L3P-generated objects don't really belong in official LDRAW part files. Once again this brings us back to the 0 INCLUDE suggestion. Imagine that ldraw.org (or someone else) distributes a separate set of part (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Another stupid part-authoring question (Primo?!?)
 
(...) Hmm. I don't have any Primo parts handy, so I've got to throw out a basic question. Isn't the inside of the Primo stud actually hollow? If we made a Primo stud that was subject to studline'ing, that would leave a huge hole in the Primo parts, (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) No, I meant the POVRay code referring to L3P-generated objects. By allowing this code in official part files, we'd be endorsing language that hasn't been generally discussed and reviewed. Not that I see any particular problem with the code. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: *** LDView Version 1.9.2 Released ***
 
(...) Hmm, that does seem strange. Do you get the dialog prompting you to select the LDraw directory? If not, do you either have LDraw in C:\LDRAW or have the LDRAWDIR environment variable set? If so, does the selection of a directory work? (Note (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Carsten Schmitz wrote: [snip] (...) Carsten, this is a great tool, even for working on models, especially .mpd's! The Code Templates are invaluable; unfortunately, templates that I create are not saved, and the next time I load LDDesignPad they are (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Yeah, LDLite, Ldglite, and L3Lab all have command-line options for polling. LDLite and Ldglite use a simple -P flag. L3Lab uses: -PollSilent -NoCache -DontAddToMRU -NotReusable -FromLDAO Just to be thorough, I think. :) LDAO's Editor also (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another stupid part-authoring question (Primo?!?)
 
Tony, FWIW, my vote is, anytime a partially spherical or parabolic shape is above a certain size, I *highly* recommend using the "high-res" (i.e., "48"-part) primitives. And don't worry about being "one of the few" who express interest in a subset (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I hold ALM until LMPL publication
 
Hi Kiss Attila Csongor, Hi Láng Attila D, Now I stop talking about LCD or LMPL, until publication. Before publication I can not evaluate if my own approach has any "added value". Termolo is a general purpose language with simplistic syntax. Before (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  I hold ALM, at least until LMPL publication
 
Hi Kiss Attila Csongor, Hi Láng Attila D, Now I stop talking about LCD or LMPL, until publication. Before publication I can not evaluate if my own approach has any "added value". Termolo is a general purpose language with simplistic syntax. Before (...) (23 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) That's a very good feature, even though as an old 3.1'er, I feel more comfortable with the obsolete but still supported .INI file system. When I double-click on a .DAT file, L3Lab in lauched, with 100% view, line type 2 on, poll off, and line (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDDesignPad v0.4 released!
 
Hello! LDDesignPad v0.4 is released. Get it at (URL) ! + = New feature * = Bugfix - = Removed feature v0.4 2002/02/27 +Added self-defined program feature +Added syntax-highlighting for optional lines +Added options to set Username / Email / (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: More on Stickers (was: Questions on Stickers and Certification)
 
(...) I have (almost) this as a printed part on white, except the stripes and gaps are transposed from the DAT file (i.e. red triangles in the corners and four red stripes). (...) Chris (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DirectX and .dat
 
(...) One other option (that I just added to LDView in OpenGL) is to use two directional lights that face in opposite directions. This probably won't work for the specular component, as the specular calculation actually requires the normal to be the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Well, I don't know about the other viewers, but you'd have to modify the registry to make it work for LDView (not that this is difficult). The LDView registry settings are stored in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\So...are\Travis Cobbs\LDView LDView (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) Which part of it aren't you keen about? Is it all the extra stuff in the dat file? If so, then perhaps this is a good time to dredge up my 0 INCLUDE suggestion yet again. ;) (URL) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Another stupid part-authoring question (Primo?!?)
 
Okay, I'm probably the only one here who really cares about Duplo parts (with the possible exception of Paul Easter). But I figure that some folks at least will appreciate having these added to the parts library. As part of modeling Duplo, I'm also (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV-Ray code?
 
(...) OK. I'll write up a spec/reference page on 0 IFDEF. It will include the following metacommands: 0 IFDEF <code> 0 IFNDEF <code> 0 ELSE 0 ENDIF Should there be a 0 ELSEIFDEF and/or 0 ELSEIFNDEF? (...) Steve (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: DirectX and .dat
 
(...) You're probably running into trouble with the random polygon winding direction in most of the LDRAW parts. This causes problems with lighting and culling since the normals often point into the part rather than out of it. In opengl you can (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DirectX and .dat
 
(...) Of course you will have to convert this to a unit vector, by dividing each of the conponents by the length of the resulting vector. (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DirectX and .dat
 
(...) It sounds like you need help finding the normal vector so that Direct X will prperly shade the triangle. you can find the normal vector for the vertex by calculating the cross product of two vectors taken from two sides of the triangle. I (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView Version 1.9.2 Released ***
 
Hi, the program seems to be very good, seeing the screen caps, but... It's hanging on me, the other version 1.0 does also hang after selecting a model (simple 2x4 brick). PC Specs: Athlon TB 1400, Asus v3800 TNT2, 256MB win me OpenGL should be ok, I (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  DirectX and .dat
 
Hi all. Tim Courtney directed me to this forum on an issue that's bugging me. I am into the Virtual Lego for about a year now and being a programmer i started to mess around myself with the dat files etc. Just for the fun of it I started a little (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) LDraw-mode, running under Emacs, can be used to inline any parts, primitives and sub models. Emacs runs under virtually any OS, hence there has been the posibility to inline under "any" OS for a couple of years or so... Fredrik (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) I added an inliner to the LEDIT emulation mode of ldglite about 6 months ago, but I guess I must not have advertised it too well. I think it works pretty good, except for MPD files. It inlines them ok, but the LEDIT mode currently only saves (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) I forgot to mention that I have made a working inliner, but it's inside of LDA2001 and invisible, out of reach for general purpose inlining. I did have plans to break it out and make a standalone utility, but for some reason, I didn't. And now (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) I only know of one inliner, the one in LDAO. So now I know about 2 inliners. :) If there are other programs around that perform inlining, I'd *really* like to hear about them. Anyone? Steve (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) It is very exciting to me. I'm running the Swedish version of Win98 at home, and that means in LDAO I have to: 1. Replace all decimal points in the file to inline with commas. 2. Replace all decimal points in the type 1 line(s) I want to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) I'm curious, what's so exciting about another inliner? I was under the impression that there were plenty of inliners around, especially for Windows. Or are you still using windows 3.1? (...) Yes. It would be nice to be able to specify (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Me too. In a near future, I don't have to have a separate PC with Win95 or English Win98 to run LDAO on. :) (...) I had some problem with inlining disabled, too. I noticed that if I had two successive type 1 lines, inlining of the first one (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Will LMPL be Simulation-approach or Usage-approach ?
 
DG> Do not forget to download Spiderbot.dat (in lugnet.cad.models) It came automatically via e-mail. :) DG> We embody two different well-known approaches. Both of LCD and LMPL embody these two approaches. DG> First : the Simulation approach. DG> And (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re[4]: I have read the article about LCD
 
Hi Damien! DG> Now you speak about layers. DG> That is precisely what I called "multiple syntax levels". DG> Software layers are known to be very bad for software engineering and design DG> in general. I don't think so. What about object oriented (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: elimination of theme categories - is it time?
 
(...) Uhh, Franklin, we've had *four* releases with the Parts Tracker. :) (...) I've been working on this on and off. The Town parts are mostly already moved. We've just got to resolve issues with the walkie-talkie part. Castle will be easy to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Looks promising! I'm pretty excited that there's another program that does inlining. :) I only played with it for a minute or two. I had a couple of problems: - The Inline option was always disabled. I only found Inline on the context menu. Is there (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello! Thank you very much for all your praise and suggestions regarding LDDP! Expect a new version tomorrow ;). Play well! Carsten (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: video card
 
(...) You could also try adding this: if ((!strcmp(verstr, "1.1 APPLE-1.1")) && (!strcmp(vendstr, "Apple")) && (!strcmp(rendstr, "Generic")) ) { printf("Stencil buffer disabled for XOR with Apple driver.\n"); // Generic Apple driver has problem with (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  Re: elimination of theme categories - is it time?
 
(...) Everyone knows the "Space laser gun" is actually a TV camera. Who would place a "Space laser gun" in official set 6659 ?? Space usage is just a space TV camera. Damien (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Really great! I try it right now! May be authoring/reviewing/correcting Ldraw parts will be easier. Damien (URL) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Cool now I don't need M$ Notepad for viewing the line of my ldr and mpd files. (...) That's the first thing I'm going to do before going to bed. (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) leave work early so I can run home to mess around with it. And when I went to your site, I found out about your BMP-2-LDraw32 converter--also awesome! From now on I demand that you make more noise when you release something so I can find out (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello Tore, (...) Open, (...) it (...) Hmm. not here. Even after a restart it stays in that dir ( you have to have already opened a file from there). (...) colour (...) Ok.. I will change that. (...) I did that. ;.) Can you send me an example file (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  elimination of theme categories - is it time?
 
A while ago, I posted a couple of messages: - "elimination of theme categories - Castle" ("(URL) - "elimination of theme categories - Space (pt. 1)" ("(URL) end result was, we wanted to wait until the new parts tracker was implemented. Well, the new (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) How about a user defined button or two? I did the same thing with ldglite.exe, but then I wanted to add a few commandline args and stick it into a batch file, but calling it LDView.bat didn't fool LDDesignPad. Just imagine allowing the user to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) Yes, as long as you run the program. But when I've restarted program, it's back to My Documents. About the inlining function: The colour 16 should be replaced by the colour code of the original line. Also, there is something wrong with the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Will LMPL be Simulation-approach or Usage-approach ?
 
Hi Láng Attila D. Hi Kiss Attila Csongor, Do not forget to download Spiderbot.dat (in lugnet.cad.models) The debate becomes VERY interesting. We embody two different well-known approaches. First : the Simulation approach. Things are nothing but (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello Tore, (...) Thank you very much! (...) Ok.. Next version there will be a button for this. ;) (...) browsed (...) It always is using the directory where you last opened a file. At least it does it here.. i will check on it. (...) you (...) I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello Carsten, In deed a great program! Hassle-free installation, opens as fast as NotePad, drag-n-drop files into workspace. I miss an L3Lab button, but since I don't use LDView, I renamed a copy of L3Lab.exe to LDView.exe and thus fooled (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Re[2]: I have read the article about LCD
 
(...) Hello Láng Attila D. Hello Kiss Attila Csongor, Now you speak about layers. That is precisely what I called "multiple syntax levels". Software layers are known to be very bad for software engineering and design in general. On the contrary, ALM (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: More on Stickers (was: Questions on Stickers and Certification)
 
(...) Now that I look through my folder of parts, I'm thinking that maybe I was mistaken on this. Although a part that *I* have may use a sticker, that doesn't mean that the same part didn't also come printed. A long time ago, I noticed this part: (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
(...) It sound like a pile of features for a basic editor. Almost too good to be true. I hope I can find some time to try it out. -Chuck (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re[2]: I have read the article about LCD
 
Hi all, hello Damien! DG> This thread is not very frequented now. DG> May be because the debate has to become much more technical. Yes, there is not so many traffic here nowadays. We knew this will be a long project because it's a big project with (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  New tool: LDDesignPad 0.3 for LDraw
 
Hello! I just 'released' a new tool I was working since last weekend. I called it LDDesignPad and is just a very basic editor with some LDraw functions/tools. LDDesignPad was mainly written because I am an reviewer in the parts tracker and I needed (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: I have read the article about LCD
 
Hello Láng Attila D. and Hello Kiss Attila Csongor, This thread is not very frequented now. May be because the debate has to become much more technical. (...) I mean if LMPL is not sufficient, we are in danger to either add more and more syntax (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: how to get a debugger going
 
(...) Suggestions besides fighting with gdb: are you sure the keyboard() routine is getting to glutPostRedisplay() ? this is at the bottom of keyboard(). You could add a printf() there to find out. Maybe your 'E' key case is returning early? If it's (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  Re: LDraw.org: BricksWest 2002 Event Report
 
"Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Gs3q8y.MtH@lugnet.com... (...) There's a lot to talk about there, and you can be sure I'll post a lot, you know how I talk, Shiri ;-) Yep, there was some heated debate in the roundtable (caught (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events.brickswest)
 
  Re: LDraw.org: BricksWest 2002 Event Report
 
"Steve Bliss" <partsref@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1mrk7u0nh78joej...4ax.com... (...) I will be preparing those for posting when I get the time. Marisela Herrera (Ahui's wife) volunteered to take notes of the community roundtable discussion (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events.brickswest)
 
  Re: LDraw.org: BricksWest 2002 Event Report
 
(...) Great write-up of ldraw's part in the event. Can you expand on the roundtable discussion? From Matt's description it seems you had some heated debates but finally reached a consensus... what was it? What, did you all feel, are the long-term (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events.brickswest)
 
  Re: LDraw.org: BricksWest 2002 Event Report
 
(...) sessions? Recordings? I'd be very keen to review the community roundtable. Steve (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events.brickswest)
 
  Re: how to get a debugger going
 
(...) You could try running ldglite in the background to give gdb control of the console. Try this on the command line: ldglite blah blah blah & Then attach the debugger. Or maybe in gdb try: r blah blah blah & It might help, but I'm not positive. (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  how to get a debugger going
 
Now that I've got some bugs, I'd like to get into the code with a debugger. In particular, I am trying to set a breakpoint in the keyboard() method so that I may trace the execution of key commands. Id like to figure out why pg-up/pg-down refreshes (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  Re: video card
 
(...) I have tried all 4. The differences are subtle, I'm not sure I see them all. I like -le the best because I can see the entire model on each refresh. (...) I commented this out but it did not make the trailing go away. I can always get the (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
 
  Re: More on Stickers (was: Questions on Stickers and Certification)
 
(...) I have only one printed part that looks like this one: (URL) by James Jessiman. The first occurance I know of for this part was 1998 (set 4222, according to Peeron). However, I also have several stickered 1x4s with a sticker matching this (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More on Stickers (was: Questions on Stickers and Certification)
 
(...) There should not be. Which official parts are you thinking of? Chris Dee (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More on Stickers (was: Questions on Stickers and Certification)
 
(...) Right. The reason I used xxxxxxa.dat, xxxxxxb.dat etc. names. (...) Hm. Not worse than for the small unnumbered parts. We could also use 3-digit numbers. (...) The origin is now placed at the center of the backface. This make easy to align the (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: How to inline a part?
 
Hello! Damn.. i just realized it's explained very well in the LDraw FAQ ;)))) Shame on me ;) I read it so many times and still I didn't remember that part of the FAQ. Off to work ;) Carsten "Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Tutorials Section Reconfigured
 
Hey everyone - I spent this evening reconfiguring the Tutorials section on LDraw.org. Now the directory structure is in place for the Tutorials section to begin expanding :-) Each category - Tips & Tricks, Modeling, File Format Conversion, (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: I have read the article about LCD
 
(...) What are you meaning by multiple syntax levels, Damien? (...) Let me report that LMPL is almost ready. It is going to be published soon. (...) LMPL contains these in theory. (...) Of course we should. (...) Well, this seems to be usable. In (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  I have read the article about LCD
 
I have read the article about LCD. The primary usage of an LCad library is to provide many quality virtual parts. So the future of LDraw library is more and better parts. The primary usage of an LCad tool is to select and position virtual parts. So (...) (23 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.lcd)
 
  Re: How to inline a part?
 
(...) If you don't mind code, you can take a look at the Inline1part function in the ldglite source code. I think the comment density may possibly be high enough to make it understandible. Enjoy, Don (23 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  How to inline a part?
 
Hello! Maybe someone can help me. What is the procedure to inline a part. I am just writing a little program and i would like to include that feature. Do i just multiply the points of the to be inlined part with the referencing line? Someone can (...) (23 years ago, 24-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Datsville anim. joint project? Was: unspectactular sound effects?  [DAT]
 
(...) running, (...) Yes, maybe. My original thought was to have both: ((URL) 0 Frame 000 ... 0 STEP 0 Frame 001 0 CLEAR 0 [Hip] 1 1 0 -40 -8 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 970.dat This way, some viewers will produce a series of BMP's. With just 0 CLEAR alone, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Datsville anim. joint project? Was: unspectactular sound effects?
 
(...) Perhaps 0 CLEAR might be a better choice than 0 STEP for animation. (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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